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06/13/2007 08:12:46 PM · #1
The description says that we should try to "stump" the viewers with our shot... can we be penalized if it doesnt? in DQs or votes?
06/13/2007 08:13:32 PM · #2
DQ, no.
Votes, certainly.
06/13/2007 08:25:24 PM · #3
I think this will be a real fun one to vote on also.

Message edited by author 2007-06-13 20:25:34.
06/13/2007 08:30:29 PM · #4
What ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' klstover said. It's not an "extra rule" like some challenges, it's just part of the challenge description. So, you can't be DQed, but you will definitely be criticized/penalized by voters if it's too easily recognizable.
06/13/2007 08:33:53 PM · #5
hmm ok im nervous... i guess ill show my pic to some people and see if they can guess what it is haha
06/13/2007 09:28:48 PM · #6
my camera can do macro, but at 2 feet away from the subject.
i think i'll shoot an elephant or something
06/13/2007 09:54:11 PM · #7
It's like Abstract Macro III?

//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_results.php?CHALLENGE_ID=559
06/14/2007 02:13:09 PM · #8
Originally posted by Techo:

It's like Abstract Macro III?

//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_results.php?CHALLENGE_ID=559


That's my take on it. I don't see why it's not just called Abstract Macro III

Message edited by author 2007-06-14 14:14:06.
06/14/2007 02:22:54 PM · #9
Originally posted by LanceW:

That's my take on it. I don't see why it's not just called Abstract Macro III


Thanks for the link, I checked out that challenge. At first glance I could easily identify 5 out of the top 10 photos. So it *is* different from that, isn't it?
06/14/2007 02:23:55 PM · #10
Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by LanceW:

That's my take on it. I don't see why it's not just called Abstract Macro III


Thanks for the link, I checked out that challenge. At first glance I could easily identify 5 out of the top 10 photos. So it *is* different from that, isn't it?


I suppose it is, if our sole intention is to "puzzle" someone. I guess I'd rather look at a good picture though then just be puzzled. ;-)
06/14/2007 02:26:38 PM · #11
Originally posted by LanceW:

I suppose it is, if our sole intention is to "puzzle" someone. I guess I'd rather look at a good picture though then just be puzzled. ;-)


I asked a related question in another thread on this challenge, but no one commented (the thread was more technically oriented):
Originally posted by citymars:

To put it another way, is it more interesting to viewers if they can eventually guess the subject, or will they prefer it to be so abstract that it can't be figured out?


What do you think?
06/14/2007 02:29:28 PM · #12
Originally posted by LanceW:


I suppose it is, if our sole intention is to "puzzle" someone. I guess I'd rather look at a good picture though then just be puzzled. ;-)


That's what bothers me about this challenge. When I can't figure something out I tend to score lower. I'm probably not the only one. So, how to present a eye-catching image, that is a puzzle, without puzzling the voters too much? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
06/14/2007 02:31:58 PM · #13
I've been wondering about the same.

I think, however, that "puzzle" means to confuse, stump, perplex, mystify, but not to make completely unrecognizeable. In other words, I think the idea is to make people wonder, "What is it?" and hopefully stay with the picture for a while, wondering. If they eventually "get it" it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure though.
06/14/2007 02:38:29 PM · #14
I guess the real challenge here is to stump them enough with a nice looking image. ;-)
06/15/2007 05:08:37 PM · #15
Originally posted by ursula:

...I think, however, that "puzzle" means to confuse, stump, perplex, mystify, but not to make completely unrecognizeable. In other words, I think the idea is to make people wonder, "What is it?" and hopefully stay with the picture for a while, wondering. If they eventually "get it" it doesn't matter...


I think this would be the majority of the voters opinions. What I mean is we still want a quality picture that is pleasing to look at; probably not just a photo of some sand or a lego!
06/15/2007 07:15:04 PM · #16
This seems like a tough challenge. I agree it should be fun to vote on!
06/15/2007 07:31:57 PM · #17
Here come the 3's and correction of grammar:)
06/15/2007 07:35:43 PM · #18
Originally posted by ursula:

I've been wondering about the same.

I think, however, that "puzzle" means to confuse, stump, perplex, mystify, but not to make completely unrecognizeable. In other words, I think the idea is to make people wonder, "What is it?" and hopefully stay with the picture for a while, wondering. If they eventually "get it" it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure though.


I think some will just expect to see a puzzle macro as in a puzzle piece. :P

ETA: Hopefully it'll be like Abstract Macro where I think those that did well did so because it was hard to recognize what the subject was.

Message edited by author 2007-06-15 19:37:10.
06/15/2007 07:39:54 PM · #19
I had a couple of ideas to use my new MP-E 65mm lens but am now thinking of a closeup shot (rather than a 'true' macro) that I doubt anybody will guess but it would be more interesting than a grain of salt filling the frame :)
06/15/2007 07:40:50 PM · #20
Just a question about the rules- to get my subject to be unrecognizable, i've applied extremely strong layers of contrast and levels- nearly posterized it. I know this may not sound appealing, but it works for this particular image.

My question- can i get DQed for this? I know i didn't use any spot editing or anything, but with recent outbreaks of unfair disqualification, i wanna make sure in advance.



Message edited by author 2007-06-15 19:43:08.
06/15/2007 07:42:05 PM · #21
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by LanceW:


I suppose it is, if our sole intention is to "puzzle" someone. I guess I'd rather look at a good picture though then just be puzzled. ;-)


That's what bothers me about this challenge. When I can't figure something out I tend to score lower. I'm probably not the only one. So, how to present a eye-catching image, that is a puzzle, without puzzling the voters too much? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


sometimes I think it is ok not to understand the image, it helps keep personal influences and feelings away and lets you concentrate on the aspects I think this site is really about...how well did they shoot that object? Is it sharp, colors good, etc...jmo
06/15/2007 07:50:27 PM · #22
I'd love to be in this one but how macro is macro, my Tamron says it's a macro but 2 feet is as close as I can get so would that class as a macro shot? I end up with things like this but it doesn't look very macro.

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06/15/2007 07:55:26 PM · #23
Originally posted by WeatherGurl:

The description says that we should try to "stump" the viewers with our shot... can we be penalized if it doesnt? in DQs or votes?


I for one won't penalize w/a DQ or a low score. Sometimes, the subject gets in the way of appreciating the composition. A puzzle macro to me means I'll be trying for pure composition. I'll look for light/shadow, form/color. Same as when I'll be voting.
06/15/2007 07:56:52 PM · #24
Originally posted by Wildcard:

I'd love to be in this one but how macro is macro, my Tamron says it's a macro but 2 feet is as close as I can get so would that class as a macro shot? I end up with things like this but it doesn't look very macro.

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Two feet away from something big is just as good as 7cm away from something small--this looks like a puzzle macro to me.
06/15/2007 08:01:15 PM · #25
My question is whether entry #25 is going to score blue or red? ;)
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