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05/29/2007 12:10:19 PM · #1
I'm not sure what the rules are about linking to another site so if I'm in violation of anything please feel free to remove the thread. I just thought this may be of interest/concern to some considering how often images get stolen. It seems that a self portrait taken when Lara Jade was 14 was stolen and used as a cover for a Porn video, read on....

The fact that this can happen is a real concern but the scary thing is because the image was used in another country there doesn't seem to be much she can do about it.

Message edited by author 2007-05-29 12:13:04.
05/29/2007 12:16:08 PM · #2
Holy crap.
05/29/2007 12:16:46 PM · #3
Can someone say child exploitation? TVX is gonna be in some deeeeep doodoo!
05/29/2007 12:17:43 PM · #4
I think that there could be jail time in it for some folks...
05/29/2007 12:17:49 PM · #5
That is awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05/29/2007 12:18:20 PM · #6
That is really sad...

That thief should be blasted to H-e-double hockey sticks. :-P
05/29/2007 12:18:31 PM · #7
It seems not, she can't afford to fight it and can't seem to find a lawyer in Texas to take it on.
05/29/2007 12:21:35 PM · #8
Originally posted by Wildcard:

It seems not, she can't afford to fight it and can't seem to find a lawyer in Texas to take it on.


She's going about it the wrong way. this is a criminal case first. A civil case secondly.
05/29/2007 12:24:00 PM · #9
Oh my god. That is DANGEROUS! If some hairy old guy bought that porn and ran into her on the street, what if he recognized her or something??

Gee.. This makes me not want to show my face.. Not that anyone would jerk to it or anything..
You get what I'm saying though, right?

Parents: Use caution in putting your childrens' lovely portraits around..
=S
05/29/2007 12:24:10 PM · #10
Folks, just to inject some reality ...

I don't think anyone's going to jail. They didn't put HER in the movie. They put her image on the front cover. Nothing was done illegally with underage kids.

As far as I know, copyright infringement is a civil matter, not criminal.

Yes, the company is sleazy. Yes, she has every right to be mad. Yes, it's sad that it happens.

But none of that makes it a crime with jail time for anyone.
05/29/2007 12:25:55 PM · #11
I think they should pay her something for using her image anyways.. They made money with it, she should make money with it too..

But.. Exposing a minor's face in such a manner.. It makes me very angry.
05/29/2007 12:26:49 PM · #12
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Wildcard:

It seems not, she can't afford to fight it and can't seem to find a lawyer in Texas to take it on.


She's going about it the wrong way. this is a criminal case first. A civil case secondly.


Yep, several people have pointed her to the Texas AG already. I bet they would LOVE a reason to have a high-profile anti-porn case happen to help them get re-elected.
05/29/2007 12:28:58 PM · #13
Originally posted by levyj413:

Folks, just to inject some reality ...

I don't think anyone's going to jail.


Whether or not she is IN the porn doesn't matter. They are still using her likeness to profit from pornography. That's called Child Exploitation and is illegal.

Other avenues she could pursue would be defamation of character and ofcourse the copyright issue.
05/29/2007 12:30:00 PM · #14
Originally posted by levyj413:

Folks, just to inject some reality ...

I don't think anyone's going to jail. They didn't put HER in the movie. They put her image on the front cover. Nothing was done illegally with underage kids.

As far as I know, copyright infringement is a civil matter, not criminal.

Yes, the company is sleazy. Yes, she has every right to be mad. Yes, it's sad that it happens.

But none of that makes it a crime with jail time for anyone.


They still put a 14 year old's face in the porn cover, I think thats still child exploitation.. right?
05/29/2007 12:30:28 PM · #15
Has anyone suggested any of these things to her?

I'd contact her and do it.. But I'm on a school computer and the tech guys stalk me like tigers.. Not sure they'd like me looking at something even somewhat related to pornography..
05/29/2007 12:32:15 PM · #16
Nomatter what the offense is, child exploitation or copyright infringement.. Whatever you call it.. The raw facts are that some guy stole a picture of a minor and used it to sell his product which happened to be pornography.
He did something wrong nomatter how you look at it..
05/29/2007 12:46:09 PM · #17
Originally posted by Beautiful-Joe:

Nomatter what the offense is, child exploitation or copyright infringement.. Whatever you call it.. The raw facts are that some guy stole a picture of a minor and used it to sell his product which happened to be pornography.
He did something wrong nomatter how you look at it..


Absolutely he did wrong. And absolutely she should be paid compensation. And absolutely, her image never should have been used.

My point is only that there are differences between civil and criminal penalties. And Leroy, I'll admit I don't know the legal details, so maybe you're right. But too many people jump straight from "this seems wrong to me" to "the guy's going to jail."
05/29/2007 12:51:02 PM · #18
Is she a DPCer? I can refer her to a Texas lawyer who may be interested but I'd rather not post anything on Flickr.
05/29/2007 12:56:37 PM · #19
Originally posted by chip_k:

Is she a DPCer? I can refer her to a Texas lawyer who may be interested but I'd rather not post anything on Flickr.


No, but she can be contacted from Myspace, Modelmayhem, and her personal website... checkout her profile : //www.flickr.com/people/larajade/

Message edited by author 2007-05-29 12:56:54.
05/29/2007 01:26:57 PM · #20
I sent him a note to see if it's something he can work with before I contact her. We'll see what happens :)
05/29/2007 01:42:29 PM · #21
That may be bad, and it is, but Getty is a whole lot worse - they're stealing from all of us!

Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could buy 4x5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $5 each. They bought thousands. Now they are selling these same images through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them. The vast majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by government employees and are public domain.

As public domain images, these images belong to us, the U.S. public. Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to these images and sell them.

The complete article //theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/05/getty-claiming-copyright-to-national.html
06/01/2007 01:31:32 AM · #22
This story made the paper today.
06/01/2007 03:34:15 AM · #23
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

This story made the paper today.

scene in a bar...

guy: so, what do you do?

gal: i'm an author and editor of over a dozen sexual health books and erotica collections. I'm also a professional sex educator, lecturer, podcaster, video blogger, porn/erotica reviewer and machine artist.

guy: cool. wanna dance?
06/02/2007 04:12:05 AM · #24
Made the UK Sun as well which is good.
Sun Copy
06/02/2007 11:53:08 AM · #25
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:

Made the UK Sun as well which is good.


You know what's sad. Not everyone knows the story behind her uploading her picture to a site and then having someone steal it. That is like us uploading to a challenge and then winning a ribbon, then having someone steal it and saying that it's our fault it was stolen. WTF. ignorant people like that make me sick. Some idiot said that she uploaded it to a website and if she didn't want it stolen she should have put a copyright on it. SHE DID, IT WAS ON HER DRESS... Oh well.

It's wrong what happened to her and I would sue the living crap out of that company and YES she should get paid for it. They used her as marketing. She should get double the amount that someone would normally get, IMO.
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