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05/19/2007 06:04:53 AM · #1 |
All the positive and admiring comments I am getting on my “vanishing point II” submission are coming from well-established and ribbon winning voters, while all the disagreeing ones are from what I call "developing" photographers.
I was sure I put forth a good entry; controversial, but good. Now, I am sure it will not win, with already 150 voters and an average of 5.6 …. But who cares, real photographers really take the time to look and pass proper scores on good work; and to me, that is what counts.
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05/19/2007 06:12:06 AM · #2 |
Judging by your score cast, it would seem that the great masses of the unwashed are a great deal more generous towards your images than you are theirs.
What a relief it must be for you to have the elite on your side. Lord knows the average scorers know nothing about what constitutes good photography... what rubbish.
Ray |
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05/19/2007 06:15:48 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Judging by your score cast, it would seem that the great masses of the unwashed are a great deal more generous towards your images than you are theirs.
What a relief it must be for you to have the elite on your side. Lord knows the average scorers know nothing about what constitutes good photography... what rubbish.
Ray |
How can those 'good' voters be considered elite when in his eyes their work is not even worthy of a good score...either that...or there are very few worthy of being called elite on this site...and the rest of us are just rubbish.
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05/19/2007 09:09:11 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by HighNooner:
real photographers really take the time to look and pass proper scores on good work; and to me, that is what counts. |
Soooo....the unreal photographers, in your humble opinion, are the same as soybean byproduct, chemically enhanced, squeezed from a biodegradable tube food stuff.
Soooo, that means the real photographers must be farm fresh, manure fed, chemically sprayed, packed in a freezer fresh, non-biodegradable aluminum can food product.
HMMMMMMM......interesting concept. Must think on this.
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05/19/2007 09:33:53 AM · #5 |
If I pinch myself and it hurts does that make me a real photographer. Or am I just dreaming?
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05/19/2007 09:41:27 AM · #6 |
you know what, never mind. you are the best. I bow down to your photographic prowess. I just wish you could someday touch me so that your awesomeness would maybe, just a little bit, rub off on me. then I would stop looking through the wrong end of my camera. I love you and all of your work.
If Tenacious D is the world's most awesome band then you my friend are most defiantly the world's most awesome photographer.
Message edited by author 2007-05-19 09:49:57. |
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05/19/2007 09:49:05 AM · #7 |
| And out come the wolves... |
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05/19/2007 09:55:00 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
you know what, never mind. you are the best. I bow down to your photographic prowess. I just wish you could someday touch me so that your awesomeness would maybe, just a little bit, rub off on me. then I would stop looking through the wrong end of my camera. I love you and all of your work.
If Tenacious D is the world's most awesome band then you my friend are most defiantly the world's most awesome photographer. |
I don't see your name listed. tsk tsk....
Selected by other users:
# Photographer: 2 times
Message edited by author 2007-05-19 09:56:06.
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05/19/2007 09:56:18 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
Slow down rebel yell, we don't want any 'international' incidents happening over the internet.
The next thing you know, Bush will claim DNMC and invade.
Let's talk about beer. Oh, wrong thread. |
ROFL! |
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05/19/2007 10:32:56 AM · #10 |
Please refrain from personal attacks - thanks.
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05/19/2007 10:35:34 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by L2:
Please refrain from personal attacks - thanks. |
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to say that about Bush. (fingers crossed)
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05/19/2007 10:59:28 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
Originally posted by L2:
Please refrain from personal attacks - thanks. |
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to say that about Bush. (fingers crossed) |
...Perhaps she meant this: "And out come the wolves..."
Ray |
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05/19/2007 11:00:34 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by American_Horse:
Originally posted by L2:
Please refrain from personal attacks - thanks. |
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to say that about Bush. (fingers crossed) |
...Perhaps she meant this: "And out come the wolves..."
Ray |
No, I know what she meant.
I was being sarcastic.
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05/19/2007 11:04:44 AM · #14 |
Given your critical eye, I'll be thrilled at the end of the challenge to see you post the shots YOU thought were best here.
Show us your 10's! (after the challenge) |
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05/19/2007 12:17:21 PM · #15 |
haha on you Neil.
See?
edit: not for this challenge and his scores given average is low, but he seems to pride himself in having a discerning eye as far as matching his perception to dpc standards of winners.
Maybe, he has a language handicap and only seems to come off as arrogant to us. Maybe he isn't really trying to get people all po'd.
Message edited by author 2007-05-19 12:25:19. |
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05/19/2007 12:42:31 PM · #16 |
| Ahhh...I get it now. The OP changed usernames. Thought the tone of banter seemed familiar. :) |
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05/19/2007 12:58:01 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by pcody:
haha on you Neil.
See?
edit: not for this challenge and his scores given average is low, but he seems to pride himself in having a discerning eye as far as matching his perception to dpc standards of winners.
Maybe, he has a language handicap and only seems to come off as arrogant to us. Maybe he isn't really trying to get people all po'd. |
yeah it mabye my Enlgish afetr all; oh and by the way I am getitng more delevoping voetrs votes
Message edited by author 2007-05-19 13:09:00. |
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05/19/2007 01:16:33 PM · #18 |
| sorry, didn't mean to say you were handicapped. I should have said "language barrier". |
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05/19/2007 01:22:40 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by L2:
Please refrain from personal attacks - thanks. |
well darn... back to the bar with me
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05/19/2007 01:24:34 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by pcody:
sorry, didn't mean to say you were handicapped. I should have said "language barrier". |
Do not worry; I am almost certain you would encounter the same dilemma with the two other languages that I speak.
So rest assured; I keep joie de vivre, and I extent my apologies due to the inadequacy of my English skills.
Cheers
Message edited by author 2007-05-19 14:01:52. |
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05/19/2007 02:09:10 PM · #21 |
There is truth to the idea that established and "developing" photographers generally view and vote images differently.
Experienced photographers tend to react more to the technical aspects of a photograph... things like composition, color, contrast and technique.
"Developing" photographers tend to react more to such things as emotional content, meeting the challenge and "wow" factor above a photograph's technical aspects. Such things as overexposed areas of sky are less bothersome to them. "Developing" photographers also tend to vote low in reaction to their sensitivity regarding how their own images are scored.
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05/19/2007 02:19:37 PM · #22 |
| I agree with Steve's opinions expressed immediately prior to this post. There is most definitely a big difference in how an inexperienced photographer looks at and judges an image, versus how a seasoned pro (or amateur) will judge one. In addition, there are significant differences between individuals, even well-seasoned individuals with a critical eye. Often, one man's art is another man's garbage. |
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05/19/2007 02:27:11 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
"Developing" photographers also tend to vote low in reaction to their sensitivity regarding how their own images are scored. |
I'm surprised to see such an assumption from you. Do you have "proof" to back this up? :)
In my few years here I've seen a wide variety of comments/reactions. Comments have been rec'd from "experienced" photographers that have shunned most technical points and addressed the reaction/impact/emotion of a photo. I think many of the experienced photographers here take that higher level approach. Perhaps they're burned out on getting negative feedback from comments they've made using constructive criticism?
On the other hand I've seen many "developing" photographers, even newbies, make comments mostly to the technical side as that is an area of interest and concern to them in their growth.
I'm postulating myself here with the last few sentences. :P
FWIW, I consider myself a "developing" photographer. :) |
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05/19/2007 02:32:33 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
FWIW, I consider myself a "developing" photographer. :) |
We all should, no matter what our level of experience.
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05/19/2007 02:37:18 PM · #25 |
This photo of mine, which has some glaring technical problems, received some raves from some of the best photographers on this site. I think blanket statements do not hold up under examination.
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