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05/21/2002 10:20:08 AM · #26 |
Don't worry too much about the comments that people write. Remember that the comments aren't personal attacks because when people are voting they don't know who the photographer is.
If you want lots of good tips you should search around on the web. There are TONS of sites. Try www.google.com and put in the search words "digital photography tips".
The sites you find will tell you all about lighting, film speeds, composition, etc, etc.
The more photos you take the better you'll get. Keep some around so in a few months you can look back and see the difference.
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05/21/2002 11:33:28 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by cthenk:
I think it would be fun to maybe have a "kids week", in addition to or instead of type thing - let our kids take a crack at it every once and awhile. They tend to have a much different look on life then we do (usually better). Think I will take this to the forum for challenge ideas. :)
Or maybe a photo of US by a kid...
There's already 2-3 kids signed up under their own accounts already -- I actually think it may be more interesting to see how they do in an anonymous competition than in a "kid's division" (as well as being less admin. work) -- I highly doubt they will have the lowest three scores!
I'm concerned, though, if we are going to/could modify the rules somewhat. For example, since my 5 year old doesn't quite read yet, I usually handle stuff like naming/saving/uploading files. In pre-competition photos, I've usually done a little cropping and tone adjustment, too. Should we limit it to their raw shot, or allow them "help with their homework."
Here's three photos my son Isaac ("Spider-Boy", "Priceless...") has shot over the last few months:
Orange Fungus #16
Twisty Branches (Full-Frame)
Black Trees
I also agree with whoever suggested that we write ALL our comments as if we were speaking to a child (not our own) -- we'd hear far fewer complaints!
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/21/2002 11:37:38 AM. |
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05/21/2002 11:41:16 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I thank all of you for supporting my boy (# 1 Bronco fan). He was a little upset when he didn't understand some of the comments people were making, so I told him to put it in the forum. I am very proud of him for hanging in there. Maybe I could learn from what you all teach him! :)
Sonifo, you have every right to be proud of your son! I've been following this thread closely, because I was a little worried about what he might hear. But, I'm also proud of these photographer's that have responded. And ESPECIALLY proud of DIGITEYES. You see, 25 years ago she was MY 11 year old! And, she wanted a camera in her hands then, too! Now, she is a parent of a girl and boy just one and two years older than your son. She is one of the good examples for him.
I wish him luck with his photography!
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/21/2002 11:44:35 AM. |
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05/21/2002 11:47:02 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Dangerous_blues:
I will be glad to loan out some kids to anyone who is in need.......take your pick.......any of the six of them.....lol
Reminds me of that joke:
"Kids for rent, cheap!
Some Free!"
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/21/2002 11:47:59 AM. |
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05/21/2002 12:10:09 PM · #30 |
| Thanks Mom, I am proud of you too! |
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05/21/2002 03:30:09 PM · #31 |
| Ok you two, Sandip & Digiteyes, keep it amongst yourselves. It's getting too mushy in here. Go back to work. :) |
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05/21/2002 04:35:11 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by cthenk:
[i]I think it would be fun to maybe have a "kids week", in addition to or instead of type thing - let our kids take a crack at it every once and awhile. They tend to have a much different look on life then we do (usually better). Think I will take this to the forum for challenge ideas. :)
Or maybe a photo of US by a kid...
There's already 2-3 kids signed up under their own accounts already -- I actually think it may be more interesting to see how they do in an anonymous competition than in a "kid's division" (as well as being less admin. work) -- I highly doubt they will have the lowest three scores!
I'm concerned, though, if we are going to/could modify the rules somewhat. For example, since my 5 year old doesn't quite read yet, I usually handle stuff like naming/saving/uploading files. In pre-competition photos, I've usually done a little cropping and tone adjustment, too. Should we limit it to their raw shot, or allow them "help with their homework."
Here's three photos my son Isaac ("Spider-Boy", "Priceless...") has shot over the last few months:
Orange Fungus #16
Twisty Branches (Full-Frame)
Black Trees
I also agree with whoever suggested that we write ALL our comments as if we were speaking to a child (not our own) -- we'd hear far fewer complaints[/i]
WOW, your son takes GREAT pictures, you seem to be a great influence on him :) But, this enforces my idea about having a "kids week" - I don't think I could handle being whipped by a five year old :) I think if kids do compete one way or another, it should be their 'raw' picture, we don't know what they wanted us to 'see' in the photo and if we 'fix' it then we influence the outcome - my 2 cents.
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05/21/2002 04:54:22 PM · #33 |
| Well I was hoping for a little better. Someone just trashed my daughters picture, and at 7 its pretty hard to hide her disappointment. She worked so hard, I am really disappointed. I would have hated to read that stuff about my photo, and I have a pretty thick skin. |
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05/21/2002 05:00:36 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by cthenk:
WOW, your son takes GREAT pictures, you seem to be a great influence on him :) But, this enforces my idea about having a "kids week" - I don''t think I could handle being whipped by a five year old :) I think if kids do compete one way or another, it should be their ''raw'' picture, we don''t know what they wanted us to ''see'' in the photo and if we ''fix'' it then we influence the outcome - my 2 cents.
<blush vicariously> Thanks! I guess I agree about the raw photo business, although I may offer him advice, and start teaching him how to crop and adjust the photos. In the meatime, I think I''ll try and track down the orignal captures of these same three images and post them for comparison.
Actually, he has a pretty good photo from this week -- maybe he''ll just pop up in this week''s challenge!
Also, if any other parents here want to start up a separate, private site for the kids'' photography, please send me an email, as I know a handy way to do that for free (or almost) -- not with the same functionality or purpose (competition) of this site, but easy and useful and fun.
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/21/2002 5:04:14 PM. |
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05/21/2002 05:35:34 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by cthenk:
[i]I think it would be fun to maybe have a "kids week", in addition to or instead of type thing - let our kids take a crack at it every once and awhile. They tend to have a much different look on life then we do (usually better). Think I will take this to the forum for challenge ideas. :)
Here's three photos my son Isaac ("Spider-Boy", "Priceless...") has shot over the last few months:
Orange Fungus #16
Twisty Branches (Full-Frame)
Black Trees
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Get outta town! Those are great shots!! He's a better photographer than me! LOL When did you start teaching him how to take pictures? I have a little 2 yo son, and I'd love to teach him how to do the same.
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05/21/2002 05:47:38 PM · #36 |
| I don't want to sound like sour grapes, but if many parents start letting their 5 and 2 year old kids submit photos the parents may give too much help to their kids because they want their kids to do well and that wouldn't be fair to the kids or others. |
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05/21/2002 06:08:39 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Moondoggie:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Here's three photos my son Isaac ("Spider-Boy", "Priceless...") has shot over the last few months:
Orange Fungus #16
Twisty Branches (Full-Frame)
Black Trees
Get outta town! Those are great shots!! He's a better photographer than me! LOL When did you start teaching him how to take pictures? I have a little 2 yo son, and I'd love to teach him how to do the same.
Actually, it's mostly a matter of not being afraid to just hand him the camera and let him mess with it. It's on full auto mode, so he really just has to literally point and shoot. Although, I think he used the LCD to shoot the fungus. I just put the strap on his wrist and remind him to keep his fingers off the lens. Other than that, I don't think he can hurt it. And...he has MANY misframed and blurry shots as well (I guess I do too) -- I've definitely culled (and helped a bit with) the best ones. But that's part of the idea of digital photography after all...
BTW -- Asimov is one of the three Isaacs for whom he's named! |
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05/21/2002 06:14:47 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Yoodio:
I don't want to sound like sour grapes, but if many parents start letting their 5 and 2 year old kids submit photos the parents may give too much help to their kids because they want their kids to do well and that wouldn't be fair to the kids or others.
I think those of us letting/considering letting our kids submit are going to "not help" -- if I have my son submit something I'll just resample it to the appropriate dimensions and fill out the submission form -- other than that, it will have to stand on its own...and no one will know which it is until the voting is over anyway. |
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05/21/2002 08:18:27 PM · #39 |
General, your son has a great parent. You too sonifo and BAM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/21/2002 8:28:35 PM. |
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05/21/2002 09:08:07 PM · #40 |
I thank you for showing me that you care. I''m having fun on this sight.
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* This message has been edited by the author on 5/21/2002 9:11:53 PM. |
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05/21/2002 09:33:15 PM · #41 |
Reminds me of that joke:
"Kids for rent, cheap!
Some Free![/i]
This is to funny. I have 4 kids myself and yes, I admit that I to feel this way at times. LOL
And thank you for backing me up. :)
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05/21/2002 09:35:58 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
General, your son has a great parent. You too sonifo and BAM
Thank you David. :)
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05/22/2002 12:18:27 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
General, your son has a great parent. You too sonifo and BAM
Thanks David...it's easier when you have a really great little kid. |
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05/22/2002 01:28:36 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
General, your son has a great parent. You too sonifo and BAM
Thank you David, I appreciate this.... but in all honesty, I have a great kid. |
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05/22/2002 09:42:48 AM · #45 |
Well I was hoping for a little better. Someone just trashed my daughters picture, and at 7 its pretty hard to hide her disappointment. She worked so hard, I am really disappointed. I would have hated to read that stuff about my photo, and I have a pretty thick skin.
This is disturbing. First of all, what do you mean by 'trashed'? Did they just say they didn't like it? Are we all supposed to keep in mind that a photo we don't like might have been taken by a child and not say we don't like it? I don't think I can do that. I also don't like the idea of only posting in the forums things that are suitable for children. Some people post photos of nudes here, some of them fairly erotic, and other people push some boundaries, and we should be able to discuss these things in a mature way, otherwise what's the point? |
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05/22/2002 10:05:25 AM · #46 |
OK, I may get flamed for this, but here is my honest opinion about the matter.
If it were my kid, I would give serious consideration to letting them join in the challenge. This is an open site, and like ANY open forum on the internet, you are going to get your share of cranks and offbeat material. That's neither right nor wrong, it just is. And while the subject of photography itself is a family friendly topic, the fact that this topic is shared and discussed in this wildly open forum invites the clear possibility that there will be content inappropriate for kids. Yes, one might wish that all of the material here were suitible for all family members, but imho that is a grossly unrealistic expectation.
Frankly, I am really pulling for you #1BroncoFan. Way to go, dude! Do NOT 'go away'! You get out there and take those pics, post 'em, look at what others are doing here, and really get what you can from the experience. I just think that Sonifo, as a parent you need to accept the possibility that your son may see and read some stuff which is geared to an older audience. Which is why, when the time comes that my son might ask to join in, I would definitely pause to give some serious consideration to the request.
But like I said #1BroncoFan, I really like the idea that you are here and participating. Please keep it up, and dont let some of the negative comments get you down. We all get them. Just focus on the constructive comments, and try to learn from them. Good luck!
(btw, do you think Terrell Davis will ever play again?)
I'm out...
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05/22/2002 10:26:41 AM · #47 |
| You know, I would love to get my butt kicked by the kids! That would be quite an honor actually. |
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05/22/2002 12:34:09 PM · #48 |
| I do understand that there are some inappropriate pictures on here for young eyes. It's funny, we can go outside and look around at some of the young girls and watch T.V. shows with their provocitive way of dressing. I am a parent who is involved in everything my kids do. When #1 Bronco Fan sits down to vote I explain to him that their are some folks in here who are inmature and don't understand that their the only ones getting a kick out their photos. And for the appropiate nude pictures in here, well I get in first and vote on those pictures before he sees them. And he doesn't care to look at things like that right now. It will be something I will have to worry about later. He is so jazzed about taking pictures. I feel that if the parents in here communicate with their kids about the photos, they will come to understand the good, and the bad! ;) |
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05/22/2002 01:21:13 PM · #49 |
I agree with you Sonifo, communicating with our kids is the most important thing we can do toward helping them understand the complexities of the world around us. And I certainly hope you didn't take my comments to mean that I question or disagree with your decision to have #1 join us. That was definiely not the intent.
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05/22/2002 01:57:31 PM · #50 |
| I'm more inclined to worry about youngsters that DON'T have mothers like Sonifo, who will take time to explain to their kids why some adults act like children, and some children act more like adults. I think, with the strong parental guidance that #1 Bronco Fan is getting from his Mom, he'll be able to weather the ocassional bad word, and "shock value" picture. Heaven knows sadly, in this day and age, kids are seeing it everywhere. There is good AND bad most everywhere. |
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