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05/07/2007 03:40:57 AM · #1
how can a photo that has four links pass a validation query ? for TRI-PTYCH.

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05/07/2007 03:42:53 AM · #2
Originally posted by hywind:

how can a photo that has four links pass a validation query ? for TRI-PTYCH.

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05/07/2007 03:44:08 AM · #3
It looks like two photos on the left are the same just a different crop. All the people in the background are in the same position.
05/07/2007 04:25:16 AM · #4
Actually it seems all three images on the left are the same image...look at the posture of the background people...in comparison to the image on the right. Joe is correct in the different crops.

Actually looking at it a bit closer...the placement on the road is incorrect as is the shadowing on the bonnet. So the two images on the left are the same image...the middle image is very close.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 04:26:37.
05/07/2007 04:34:45 AM · #5
Originally posted by Judi:

Actually it seems all three images on the left are the same image...look at the posture of the background people...in comparison to the image on the right. Joe is correct in the different crops.

Actually looking at it a bit closer...the placement on the road is incorrect as is the shadowing on the bonnet. So the two images on the left are the same image...the middle image is very close.


I Agree Judi, am not concerned with the number of photo's, the fact that 4 links have been used to put them together.
Challenge discription
A triptych is a work of art which is divided into three sections which are hinged or connected. For this challenge, create an entry consisting of three panels that tells a story or illustrates a concept or object
05/07/2007 04:39:03 AM · #6
Originally posted by jdannels:

It looks like two photos on the left are the same just a different crop. All the people in the background are in the same position.


The top and bottom in the first panel are linked at the middle link 1
these 2 are linked to the second panel link 2/3, the middle is then linked to the last panel link4.
05/07/2007 04:39:21 AM · #7
Originally posted by hywind:


Challenge discription
A triptych is a work of art which is divided into three sections which are hinged or connected. For this challenge, create an entry consisting of three panels that tells a story or illustrates a concept or object


You can't get DQ'ed for not following the challenge description though.

And they seemed to have also followed the extra rules also, so no infraction was made for a DQ. Thats how I see it but I have been known to be wrong. :)

Extra Rules
You may use up to three photographs for this challenge and no dimension may be longer than 720 pixels (file size must be 200kb or less). However, all other rules still apply.
05/07/2007 04:44:58 AM · #8
i was confused by this, also. it seems as if the person was trying to make up for the fact that the pictures were all different sizes/crops by adding that fourth image. very poor decision, IMO. should have just not entered the challenge.
05/07/2007 04:46:34 AM · #9
I don't see how you can't DQ this photo. Even if he just used one photo and duplicated the rest it's still four total photos being used and the rules said you could only use 3. However if you treat them as less than 4 wouldn't it still get DQed because one or more of the panels are composites and composites aren't allowed under advance editing.

Btw, there were some other entries that seem to really push the envelope in making the frames a part of the photo rather than just being a frame which I didn't think would be allowed under advance editing.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 04:49:25.
05/07/2007 05:21:51 AM · #10
Originally posted by yanko:

I don't see how you can't DQ this photo. Even if he just used one photo and duplicated the rest it's still four total photos being used and the rules said you could only use 3. However if you treat them as less than 4 wouldn't it still get DQed because one or more of the panels are composites and composites aren't allowed under advance editing.

Btw, there were some other entries that seem to really push the envelope in making the frames a part of the photo rather than just being a frame which I didn't think would be allowed under advance editing.

i think your right, each single frame should pass advanced editing rules and compsoites aren't allowed. I also hadn't looked through most entries, and it appears there are others that would fall outside advanced rules. Perhaps SC can chime in here. Also if you suspect rules violation on an entry send a ticket to SC with why you think it should be Dq'ed. Let them sort it all out :P.
05/07/2007 05:27:29 AM · #11
I don't think we should really all be discussing this here, so the guy screwed up. The challenge is over.
05/07/2007 05:41:31 AM · #12
Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by yanko:

I don't see how you can't DQ this photo. Even if he just used one photo and duplicated the rest it's still four total photos being used and the rules said you could only use 3. However if you treat them as less than 4 wouldn't it still get DQed because one or more of the panels are composites and composites aren't allowed under advance editing.

Btw, there were some other entries that seem to really push the envelope in making the frames a part of the photo rather than just being a frame which I didn't think would be allowed under advance editing.

i think your right, each single frame should pass advanced editing rules and compsoites aren't allowed. I also hadn't looked through most entries, and it appears there are others that would fall outside advanced rules. Perhaps SC can chime in here. Also if you suspect rules violation on an entry send a ticket to SC with why you think it should be Dq'ed. Let them sort it all out :P.


I did this submitting about 10 for validation rather than write DNMC against the entry, but it appears all must have met with approval or the submissions were not looked at.
05/07/2007 05:43:26 AM · #13
Originally posted by Rankles:

I don't think we should really all be discussing this here, so the guy screwed up. The challenge is over.


And rules are rules we all have to stand by.
05/07/2007 06:02:19 AM · #14
Originally posted by hywind:


I did this submitting about 10 for validation rather than write DNMC against the entry, but it appears all must have met with approval or the submissions were not looked at.

interesting, maybe SC can explain then? I got no other ideas.
05/07/2007 06:15:19 AM · #15
Originally posted by hywind:

Originally posted by Rankles:

I don't think we should really all be discussing this here, so the guy screwed up. The challenge is over.


And rules are rules we all have to stand by.


Don't get me wrong, it should have been disqualified but obviously nobody thought to flag it.
05/07/2007 08:45:18 AM · #16
This is the problem I had with his photograph, its in the extra rules. The extra rules said, “You may use up to three photographs for this challenge and no dimension may be longer than 720 pixels (file size must be 200kb or less). However, all other rules still apply”. So if we take panel one and apply advanced editing rules it clearly violates the rule - use ANY editing tool to move, remove or duplicate any element of your photograph that would change a typical viewer’s description of the photograph (aside from color or crop), even if the tool is otherwise legal, and regardless of whether you intended the change when the photograph was taken.

Message edited by author 2007-05-07 08:45:47.
05/07/2007 08:57:23 AM · #17
So what really is your problem? Most voters obviously agreed a triptych should consist of three panels - and the picture came in 238th of 243, to me that sounds worse than a DQ, so why make a fuzz?
05/07/2007 11:23:04 AM · #18
I seem to remember other photos that had more than three images, too, if you count three images against another image used as a background. I say let the voters decide -- as they did.

05/07/2007 11:35:01 AM · #19
Originally posted by citymars:

I seem to remember other photos that had more than three images, too, if you count three images against another image used as a background. I say let the voters decide -- as they did.


You bring up an excellent point...Is that background a fourth image?
05/07/2007 11:37:53 AM · #20
I read in one of the threads recently (sorry, can't remember which one) that SC was pretty darn busy with validation requests for the Triptych challenge.

There were a couple that made me wonder also, primarily those that appeared to use a 4th image as the background (not a border, but an actual bg) - and those where the background canvas was used in such a manner to introduce really another element that impacted the overall composition.

In the end, the results allowed the best Triptych's to rise to the front page or two - so it's all good. Interesting for sure! :D
05/07/2007 05:28:22 PM · #21
As I agree with most of the comments here, THINK.

We have all been given a friendly reminder, and a slap over the nuckles
regarding voting ways, ie: the friendly vote and such. excellent work by the council.

Why let this good moral attitude fall away in the right and wrong of the rules.

For those with the attitude oh well the challenge is over lets move on, does this mean if a query comes up and is a violation of rules, we can refer back to this challenge and say well it was ok here.


05/07/2007 06:02:48 PM · #22
well, my image still hadn't gotten a validated message by the time the challenge was over, so you may still get your wish.
05/07/2007 06:11:48 PM · #23
Originally posted by hywind:

Originally posted by Rankles:

I don't think we should really all be discussing this here, so the guy screwed up. The challenge is over.


And rules are rules we all have to stand by.


And we really like to discuss these sorts of things :-)
05/07/2007 06:33:05 PM · #24
Yeah, I looked at that over and over, there's only 3.
05/07/2007 07:13:13 PM · #25
Originally posted by posthumous:

well, my image still hadn't gotten a validated message by the time the challenge was over, so you may still get your wish.


I would not call it a wish, more an undersatanding of the correct and incorrect triptych rule.
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