Help burning long named files onto CD?

04/27/2007 01:26:50 PM · #1

Is there a setting in windows to allow me to burn long named files onto a CD without truncating them? When burning photo files for the gallery I work with the titles are quite descriptive and long (100+ characters). I'm having trouble keeping them from truncating when I write onto a CD

A little help?

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/27/2007 01:46:31 PM · #2

Nobody? Usually DPC is a wealth of knowledge about esoteric things like this...

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

04/27/2007 01:48:23 PM · #3

ISO 9660 uses 32 character name convention you can switch to Joliet directory structure which will give you 64 character naming convention but not all machines will be able to read the Joliet directory structure.

I believe.

DjFenzl

04/27/2007 01:49:39 PM · #4

sorry Doc, I don't know the answer but this place sure is quiet today.

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 13:50:32.

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

04/27/2007 01:51:14 PM · #5

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Thats always been said and true. But the truth is ive been seeing those warnings since i got Nero 5 and my first CD writer about 8 years ago. The majority of Windows machines 2000/XP/Vista recent linux distros. ANd probyl OSX will be able to read it.

Windows 98/ME might have some issues for say UDF file systems but not joliet.

Nelzie

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/27/2007 01:54:42 PM · #6

You would almost be better off making a spreadsheet that lists the file names and the descriptions, exporting that into a html file that could have a thumbnail list of all the images with the description of each image.

Then you put that onto the CD with the images and setup a simple autorun.inf pointing to the html file. (I think there is some cheap/free software for setting that up.)

ralph

Nikon Z9

04/27/2007 03:38:13 PM · #7

there is a -joliet-long in mkisofs

-joliet-long
Allow Joliet filenames to be up to 103 Unicode characters. This
breaks the Joliet specification - but appears to work. Use with
caution. The number 103 is derived from: the maximum Directory
Record Length (254), minus the length of Directory Record (33),
minus CD-ROM XA System Use Extension Information (14), divided
by the UTF-16 character size (2).

of course this assumes you have access to a Linux box (or is mkisofs part of cygwin these days ? )

Mick

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

04/27/2007 03:48:55 PM · #8

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Joliet has a limit of 128 characters. The ISO 9660:1999 system is a variant of ISO 9660 and supports path names up to 207 characters long.

If neither of these work, you can always pre-archive the files using WinZip. Just create an uncompressed .zip file containing the complete directory structure of the files. The folders and files can keep their long names. Write the single zip file to the CD using a short name. It will be slower to access the individual files from the resulting CD, but at least the folders and files will retain their original names.

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/27/2007 04:08:31 PM · #9

Originally posted by Mick:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Is there a setting in windows to allow me to burn long named files onto a CD without truncating them? When burning photo files for the gallery I work with the titles are quite descriptive and long (100+ characters). I'm having trouble keeping them from truncating when I write onto a CD

A little help?

Joliet has a limit of 128 characters. The ISO 9660:1999 system is a variant of ISO 9660 and supports path names up to 207 characters long.

If neither of these work, you can always pre-archive the files using WinZip. Just create an uncompressed .zip file containing the complete directory structure of the files. The folders and files can keep their long names. Write the single zip file to the CD using a short name. It will be slower to access the individual files from the resulting CD, but at least the folders and files will retain their original names.

We should point out that, I believe and correct me if I am wrong, that the Doc is talking file names not path names. The 207 character limit includes the whole path not just the file name. (Like ralph was talking about) I think the limit in Joliet is 64 characters for file name. Yes? No? Anyone?

:-P

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/27/2007 04:12:30 PM · #10

Yes, I think the filename limit might be 64.

Long filenames stifle creativity ... : )

"Hiding" the long names inside a ZIP file is a good idea, as is printing out a directory tree.

Mick

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

04/27/2007 04:12:41 PM · #11

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

I should have said, "128 bytes (64 unicode characters)."

Joliet CD-ROM Recording Specification ISO 9660:1988

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 16:27:46.

Monique64

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/27/2007 04:48:40 PM · #12

Can I ask why or in what situation you would use such a long filename?

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/27/2007 05:38:19 PM · #13

Originally posted by Monique64:

Can I ask why or in what situation you would use such a long filename?

Some people do stuff like this:

IMG_8621_John_and_Arthur_Birthday-Park-2007-Edited-11x14_BorderedPrint_FINAL.psd

Personally, I'm more like to do it like this:

IMG_8621_JoAr-Bday07_11x14.psd

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 17:42:01.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

04/27/2007 05:42:57 PM · #14

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Monique64:
Can I ask why or in what situation you would use such a long filename?

Some people do stuff like this:

IMG_8621_John_and_Arthur_Birthday-Park-2007-Edited-11x14_BorderedPrint_FINAL.psd

LOL. I'm sure Doc was thinking more like this:

IMG_8621_Oh_Hell_Yeah_This_is_the_waterfall_shot_for_the_ages_2007-Edited-11x14_BorderedPrint_FINAL.psd

Man_Called_Horse

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

04/27/2007 06:38:12 PM · #15

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Monique64:
Can I ask why or in what situation you would use such a long filename?

Some people do stuff like this:

IMG_8621_John_and_Arthur_Birthday-Park-2007-Edited-11x14_BorderedPrint_FINAL.psd

Personally, I'm more like to do it like this:

IMG_8621_JoAr-Bday07_11x14.psd

I'm with the General.

Why not just make your naming convention simpler?

Monique64

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/27/2007 06:39:38 PM · #16

Ohhhh. I usually end up with Jones_8x10_2365.jpg

Edit: Actually when you count the letters they do add up dont they!

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 18:40:38.

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Nikon

04/27/2007 07:03:40 PM · #17

The long filename is the convention of the gallery, not my choice. It has a number of keywords right in the filename so you don't have to worry about carrying around a keyword file along with the image or thumb.

An example would be:

Friesen WJG 004 Indian Beach Ecola Oregon Pacific USA WSL photos color horizontal.jpg

I found a workaround by just bringing him the files on a CF card which he downloaded onto the server.

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 19:04:04.

Greetmir

Nikon D60

04/27/2007 07:39:46 PM · #18

erm ... you might say thank you to all those that tried to offer suggestions and information to help you with your dilemma?

04/27/2007 11:42:08 PM · #19

Sorry, guys, I am thankful. DPC is always full of ideas... :)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/27/2007 11:51:35 PM · #20

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

That's not a bad idea, but if they can see the filename (i.e. the file is on a computer), they ought to be able to access the keywords in the IPTC data fields -- no separate "keyword file" needed ...

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

04/27/2007 11:54:30 PM · #21

I understand your issue with the long file names. If you could break that down to smaller names and use folders to segment your work, it would work out a lot better most likely.