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04/25/2007 01:59:52 PM · #26 |
I'm not going to argue this either.. my last post. Maybe I'll enter a "landscape oriented" horizontal image of a tree for the next seascape challenge and see how well it does ;)
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04/25/2007 02:02:38 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by aerogurl:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
You read wikipedia too?
Arguing semantics instead of appreciating the image is LAME and IMNSHO is a huge waste of time. When you look to semantics you miss the image. Sad really.
ETA: Preach on Brother Brad! |
With all due respect, I am not arguing semantics, the word means what the word means. |
Sure?
If a description exists, such as Google's very first one on that list "an expanse of scenery that can be seen in a single view", then seascapes "technically" fit. That's the issues about semantics and something not being an absolute black & white.
If I was court-ordered to take a "landscape" picture and not doing so would get me jail time, no judge in this land would find me guilty of not doing so had I presented a picture of the ocean, as the description "an expanse of scenery that can be seen in a single view" would be the irrefutable proof that my ocean picture did in fact qualify, and case dismissed.
See how screwed-up technicalities can be?
I believe it is seriously decaying the foundation of DPCHallenge, one brick at a time. |
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04/25/2007 02:10:05 PM · #28 |
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ditto what Brad and thegrandwazoo said...
Also had to double check when this thread was started...the challenge is over, the ribbons have been awarded. Do we take away anything with water in it now? Good grief and HFS!!!!
Why wasn't this thread started right after the challenge was announced? I just don't get it.
Sorry for the yelling but I'm just tryin' to have some fun around here and it's been rather difficult lately with all the flaw seekers, nit pickers, semantic debaters and horse beaters in general.
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04/25/2007 02:14:24 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by hihosilver:
Of course, if I'm going to get lost I would love Mr. Davidson to be my personal guide. |
OK. Come into my parlor said the spider to the fly. LOL!!!
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04/25/2007 02:17:35 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by RKT:
... Why wasn't this thread started right after the challenge was announced? I just don't get it. ... |
I, for one, am glad this debate didn't take place during the challenge as I don't think bantering over what does/does not meet the challenge is proper while voting is going on. JMO.
Actually, there probably WAS some discussion similar in the scores thread...always is it seems. :/ |
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04/25/2007 02:20:35 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Why wasn't this thread started right after the challenge was announced? I just don't get it. |
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=576955
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04/25/2007 02:20:43 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Why wasn't this thread started right after the challenge was announced? I just don't get it. |
It was ...
Seascapes are a subset of landscapes: all seascapes are landscapes, but not all landscapes are seascapes. Likewise for skyscapes if they include the horizon. |
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04/25/2007 02:24:37 PM · #33 |
Wow!
When something as simple as the concept of "landscape", one of the most fundamental genres of photography that there is, can generate so much disagreement and dissention... its amazing!
Now, ask yourself this:
Where do most of the 1s, 2s and 3s blamed on mythical trolls and cheating come from?
Hint: Look no further than this discussion. :)
Message edited by author 2007-04-25 14:30:10.
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04/25/2007 02:37:44 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by hihosilver:
Of course, if I'm going to get lost I would love Mr. Davidson to be my personal guide. |
OK. Come into my parlor said the spider to the fly. LOL!!! |
You'll have to wait. My new MACRO lens hasn't arrived in the mail yet...::mischievous. grin:: |
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04/25/2007 02:40:31 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Wow!
When something as simple as the concept of "landscape", one of the most fundamental genres of photography that there is, can generate so much disagreement and dissention... its amazing! |
I find essentially the same conversation takes place before every challenge ... : ( |
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04/25/2007 02:43:42 PM · #36 |
Some of y'all are too darn picky.
Do the challenge subjects need to be iron clad, for instance " The challenge is: Photograph the middle joint of the front left toe of a pileated woodpecker. From the bird's right side, in portrait orientation "
It takes the individuality out of the images if the challenge subjects are so narrow that we can't use our own interpetation in our images the challenge.
Landscape to me is any place not indoors. It does not have to be beautiful, have sky, have water, or not. The only other criteria for me is that a landscape image does not need to have a particular subject included, as a bird, moon, ect.
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04/25/2007 02:51:26 PM · #37 |
Oi...I shoulda known, and GeneralE is right, these conversations seem to be quite the standard before, and often during and after voting. I enjoyed this from Zeuszen from the above link:
"Why not define it for yourself?
Are we submitting images to conform to a dubious generic standard or
to contribute our very own individual vision?
Take a walk on the wild side! :-)"
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04/25/2007 02:55:01 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
Some of y'all are too darn picky.
Do the challenge subjects need to be iron clad, for instance " The challenge is: Photograph the middle joint of the front left toe of a pileated woodpecker. From the bird's right side, in portrait orientation " |
You think folks can't find disgreement in a definition like that. Silly you.
Interestingly, DNMCers rarely see the irony in arguing with someone else who disagrees with their own DNMCer interpretation of a challenge topic.
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04/25/2007 02:57:57 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Oi...I shoulda known, and GeneralE is right, these conversations seem to be quite the standard before, and often during and after voting. I enjoyed this from Zeuszen from the above link:
"Why not define it for yourself?
Are we submitting images to conform to a dubious generic standard or
to contribute our very own individual vision?
Take a walk on the wild side! :-)" |
Well you know...if we didn't narrow down the challenge topics to within an inch or their lives...well then they just wouldn't be very selfserving now would they!?! |
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04/26/2007 04:57:39 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by grbrya:
Is it me, or shouldn't we be focusing the landscape challenges to land? I understand that the term landscape is loose, but I think it would be a much more interesting challenge to have the photos maintain at least 50% land (limits # of photos with mostly just clouds in a blue sky) and no water.
Suggestion: Create a separate challenges for seascapes / waterscapes / skyscapes/cityscapes/etc. |
If you read my opening comment to this thread carefully, I wasn't suggesting that I nor anyone else discredited those entries with water or sky. I wasn't nitpicking over semantics about the word, I was just wondering WHY we shouldn't be having a LANDscape challenge (we already have a seascape) where the rules require more land than anything else. I didn't realize that his was such a touchy subject.
Landscape photograpy should always include natural scenery (including sea) and should be presented in both landscape and portrait orientations. Everyone, including those who nitpick the definition of landscape, is correct in this discussion. But the fact is that the traditional and present day connotations of the word "landscape" are different and we live in today's world so we should accept the present day definiton and respect the traditional for what it was.
Cheers to everyone who commented!!! |
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