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12/02/2003 01:52:06 PM · #1
hello everyone. i'm planning on buying a digicam and frankly, can't decide! i'm currently looking at the sonyf717, canon g5, and the olympus 5050. i'm leaning away from the sony because of the bulky lens, though the quality (from all the top placings on here) is without a doubt great. in reviews, they say that the canon has problems with moire effects...

anyway, any thoughts on the latter two cameras? anyone have them and what are your experiences/opinions? also, i'm looking to spend around 500ish, so any other possibilities i might look into?

appreciate your thoughts! thanks. :o)
12/02/2003 02:06:42 PM · #2
Before my recently-aquired Rebel, I was using the Olympus C5050Z, and I highly recommend it. It has a couple of eccentricities you have to get around, but it takes a really good picture, and the macro capabilities on the thing are not to be believed. I haven't played with the others, but I can tell you I was quite happy with the Oly, and the only reason I got rid of it was to upgrade to a true DSLR.
12/02/2003 02:14:30 PM · #3
I do same of you when buy my Nikon. I put the specs side by side, and read every review carefully at //www.dpreview.com. It was about 2 mounths until my final decision. The Cannon G5 had several bugs with colors. Sony had unnatural colors and very processed images, but with a higher quality. Had a greather focus ring too, it´s positive. But has proprietary memory. The lens quality of Nikon impressed me. And the design and operability convicted me to give a chance to Nikon. I´m very satisfied and about U$500 you can get a Nikon 5100 or Nikon 5400. Other point to think is about accessories, Sony had a lens tha use standard filters to 35mm, Nikon needs one or two adapters. The Olympus had a proprietary media too. But I don´t know many things of it.
12/02/2003 06:18:47 PM · #4
The 5050, while it uses XD memory which only Olympus and Fuji (I think) use, it also uses CF and Smartdrive, which are pretty common. You get a lot of options. Also, the 5050 uses standard NiMH rechargable batteries, or in a pinch just use AA batteries. :)
12/02/2003 07:02:00 PM · #5
First off, I'm a die-hard Canon fan. But out of the three cameras you've listed I would put the G5 as my last option mainly because I heard too much smack about it (with comparison to the G3 anywayz).

The Sony puts out great quality and over-all is a great camera. However, what I can't stand is that ugly-ass, bulky design. But thats just me.

Although I'm not too familiar with the Olympus cameras I would put that as my first choice. I know enough to tell you Olympus has great optics and definitely a top-3 brand for compact digitals. One thing I can't stand is XD cards but with support for CF type cards you're ok.
12/02/2003 07:05:38 PM · #6
Forgot to mention that you may also be interested in the Fuji 5000, 7000 or 602.

Thanks.
12/02/2003 07:13:12 PM · #7
Originally posted by Fayech:


anyway, any thoughts on the latter two cameras? anyone have them and what are your experiences/opinions? also, i'm looking to spend around 500ish, so any other possibilities i might look into?

appreciate your thoughts! thanks. :o)


I have an older Olympus 450z as well as my Canon G2. For a 1 Mpixel camera, the Olympus was top notch. So are the canon's.

Here's two considerations I keep foremost in any camera recommendations to people (I don't know how they apply to those specific cameras):

1) Does the camera accept filters and attachments DIRECTLY without a bulky adapter? Why have a big adapter just to put on a little polarizer!

2) Is there sufficient optical Zoom for your needs? 3X optical is too little in my two cameras. (I think the Sony is the winner there, but I know some of the Olympuses have 10x optical!)

3) Does it have a moveable LCD. That's something that's kept me from buying the new Canon Digital SLRs. I like my G2's LCD, being able to take pictures at waist level or not have to lie on the ground to see through the viewfinder on a low shot is WONDERFUL. Also allows you to turn it around to protect it when packing the camera or even if it's hanging on your neck rubbing against your coat zipper.

4) Can you see the LCD well in sunlight. That's an area where my Canon G2 is pretty bad.

Hope that helps you think about the various benefits.

Regards--Neil
12/02/2003 08:19:09 PM · #8
Originally posted by Fayech:

i'm leaning away from the sony because of the bulky lens...


Have you gone to a camera shop and looked at / held the F717? It looks bulky in photos, but in reality, it's relatively small, and can be held in one hand.

I've been looking at the same range of cameras, and from all the reviews/specs I've read, the F717 outweighs the G5 and the 5050. Others I looked at were the Fujis (S602z, S7000, S5000), Minolta Dimages (Z1, 7Hi), and others I cant remember. The 7Hi is about the only camera which rivals the F717 in my opinion, but it's priced a little higher.

If it's just the bulkiness of the lens which is troubling you, try it out. Even if you do find it bulky, the quality of the lens, plus other features (including nice lcd angles, night framing/shooting, zoom, etc) probably outweigh this.
12/02/2003 09:31:56 PM · #9
I looked around before I got My SONY F717 and I found it to be better.....I thought it was going to be big and bulky but it is the greatest camera.....It takes very nice photos too.....

I love it!

Melissa
12/03/2003 02:09:50 AM · #10
Originally posted by space amoeba:

Before my recently-aquired Rebel, I was using the Olympus C5050Z, and I highly recommend it. It has a couple of eccentricities you have to get around, but it takes a really good picture, and the macro capabilities on the thing are not to be believed. I haven't played with the others, but I can tell you I was quite happy with the Oly, and the only reason I got rid of it was to upgrade to a true DSLR.


Ditto this post, except for the Rebel part.

I was very happy with the C-5050. My wife had the Sony 717 so I had the chance to compare both cameras. Although the C-5050 takes amazing photos, in my opinion the 717 nosed ahead in picture quality.
12/03/2003 02:15:40 AM · #11
I would cut the Canon G5 from the list. I had one for a short period. I took it back. If I would consider now buying an extra camera, it would be a Sony 717. I suppose 828 is out of the question.

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12/03/2003 03:10:21 AM · #12
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I had a Sony DSC-F828 in my hands 10 days ago. Ordered one right away. Will get it in two weeks, I hope... I think it is worth waiting for to make up the price difference, if this is the problem, them buying a 717 at this time.
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12/03/2003 03:29:20 AM · #13
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12/03/2003 04:04:19 AM · #14
Originally posted by pitsaman:

I don't know about other cameras,but I'm getting purple noise on the edges at high contrast and low speed photos with 5050
It's called Chromatic Aberration (CA) Kosta. It is a problem the C-5050 has sometimes, especially when shooting towards the sun. Luckily it doesn't happen too often though, it happened to me about 10 times in 4 months.


12/03/2003 07:34:16 AM · #15
I still have my C-5050 and I still use it very often. I don´t think the CA is a BIG problem but it is very annoying when it appeares.
12/04/2003 01:20:50 PM · #16
hello everyone. wow! thanks for the replies and suggestions. much appreciated. i think i'll likely not be considering the g5 anymore. haven't heard a lot of good things.

as for the 717, it is so tempting, but i'm trying to go for a camera that isn't too obtrusive, though i suppose most of the other cameras aren't that much smaller.

wasn't aware of the CA on the 5050. does anyone have more samples of pics with that prob to share?

anyway, still haven't decided, will keep you all updated! :o)
12/04/2003 01:33:47 PM · #17
Originally posted by Fayech:

hello everyone. wow! thanks for the replies and suggestions. much appreciated. i think i'll likely not be considering the g5 anymore. haven't heard a lot of good things.

as for the 717, it is so tempting, but i'm trying to go for a camera that isn't too obtrusive, though i suppose most of the other cameras aren't that much smaller.

wasn't aware of the CA on the 5050. does anyone have more samples of pics with that prob to share?

anyway, still haven't decided, will keep you all updated! :o)


I really like my G5, in contrast to the majority here. Like all the other cameras mentioned here, it has its quirks. I looked at the Canon G5 & G3, SOny 717, Oly 5050, Nikon 5700 & 5400. My second choice behind the G5 was the Nikon 5400.

I highly recommend that you take a CF card and go to a store (or stores) that has those cameras and shoot some pictures in the store, take them home and see how they look. For the cameras that you don't have memory for (sony) ask the store to put a shot on a disk for you. Also, the MOST important thing is how you respond to the cameras user interface. Is it easy to access the fumctions and features you use most? How does it feel in your hand when you shoot? A useful feature may as well not be there if you can't remember what menu it's in when you need it or you find it awkward to shoot with the camera itself.
12/04/2003 01:40:35 PM · #18
that's a good idea. i never considered taking a card and then analyzing the pics at home later.
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