Image too small prompt - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/15/2007 05:21:13 AM · #1

I'm currently going through and voting on night shots. I have come across several images that are too small. One was obviously taken by someone who knew what were doing photography wise, that gave me an idea. If someone loads up a challenge photo that is smaller the the accepted dimensions ( cant remember what they are of the top of my head!) a prompt shpould come up telling them it is too small and providing a link to the resizing tutorial.
Good idea or bad idea?

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

04/15/2007 08:24:58 AM · #2

I've never tried it, but there probably is such a message, but the smallest size allowed is 160, which is pretty darn small. :) A lot of times, the smaller pictures come from photog's who are trying to get the file size smaller than 150 by reducing the number of pixels rather than compressing.

TechnoShroom

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

04/15/2007 08:25:54 AM · #3

The minimum size is 160px. If you try to submit a photo with either or both dimensions smaller than that you get a message...

An error occurred: Your photograph is XxY, which does not meet the size requirements.

... where X and Y are the dimensions of your image and cannot continue the entering process.

Perhaps a larger minimum dimension is what we really need.

Federico

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/15/2007 08:32:36 AM · #4

and also a larger maximum IMHO...
like 800 pixel for the largest side and 250Kb, we're in 2007 :)

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/15/2007 08:58:50 AM · #5

Originally posted by Federico:

and also a larger maximum IMHO...
like 800 pixel for the largest side and 250Kb, we're in 2007 :)

And that, my dear fellow, is a whole 'nuther discussion.

In the event you haven't seen those discussions (or anyone else for that matter) you can read and weigh in

here is the most recent

Here is an old one

another one, not terribly recent, admittedly

this one discusses the perhaps unobvious differences between 150K and 250K

YMMV, but it will at least give you some ideas that have been bantered around. :)

edit -- I think at least one of those have been locked, but you can get an idea of the pros and cons of each argument.

Message edited by author 2007-04-15 08:59:35.

04/15/2007 03:10:28 PM · #6

There must be some way to help those poor people who unwitingly submit a small photo

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

04/15/2007 03:15:46 PM · #7

I usually post the link to the tutorial. Sadly, it won't help them in the current challenge, but it should help them with all challenges from that point on.

langdon

Canon EOS-20D

04/15/2007 03:17:51 PM · #8

I can throw in a friendly reminder on the submission page if a user does upload a smaller-sized image, though, what should the criteria be? Simply show the reminder if the max size isn't 640?

04/15/2007 03:22:42 PM · #9

Originally posted by langdon:

I can throw in a friendly reminder on the submission page if a user does upload a smaller-sized image, though, what should the criteria be? Simply show the reminder if the max size isn't 640?

I'd say anything under .75 of the max is going to get hit by low voting. For a 640 max challenge, I'd warn them if it was smaller them 480. My $.02.

04/15/2007 03:24:36 PM · #10

That would be great most of these people I'm sure are totally unaware thanks Langdon :)
Since anyone who is'nt the maximum allowable size seems to get hammered in the voting should'nt that be the criteria? They can choose to ignore but at least they have been informed

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

04/15/2007 03:28:48 PM · #11

Can you throw in a message if the image is too crappy also? That would really help me out. :)

04/15/2007 03:30:06 PM · #12

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Can you throw in a message if the image is too crappy also? That would really help me out. :)

HaHa :) just splattered my yoghurt on the screen!

04/15/2007 03:32:33 PM · #13

Originally posted by joynim:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Can you throw in a message if the image is too crappy also? That would really help me out. :)

HaHa :) just splattered my yoghurt on the screen!

Ewwwwwww... Talk about a mess.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

04/15/2007 03:35:23 PM · #14

Perhaps a "This has no "WOW". Are you sure you want to submit it?" I'd find that very helpful. :-)

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

04/15/2007 03:37:36 PM · #15

Originally posted by Melethia:

Perhaps a "This has no "WOW". Are you sure you want to submit it?" I'd find that very helpful. :-)

Imagine the threads and discussion about the criteria on that one!!

@ eug any suggestions on how to clean it up!

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

04/15/2007 03:44:03 PM · #16

Originally posted by Federico:

and also a larger maximum IMHO...
like 800 pixel for the largest side and 250Kb, we're in 2007 :)

Some people (Not me im @ 1280x1024) are still on 800x600 and 1024x768. 720 would be the max width for anyone on 800x600 in a realistic situation.

Id agree more with 640 and 200 KB though.
As said a whole nother thread

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

04/15/2007 04:14:29 PM · #17

Originally posted by joynim:

@ eug any suggestions on how to clean it up!

Can't say I've ever had to clean yogurt from my screen, but I think it'd depend on the type of screen. lol

RainMotorsports

Nikon D60

04/15/2007 04:15:28 PM · #18

Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by joynim:
@ eug any suggestions on how to clean it up!

Can't say I've ever had to clean yogurt from my screen, but I think it'd depend on the type of screen. lol

Can you make a suggestion for just general crap collection on an LCD with a non smooth surface.....

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

04/15/2007 04:20:47 PM · #19

Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by joynim:
@ eug any suggestions on how to clean it up!

Can't say I've ever had to clean yogurt from my screen, but I think it'd depend on the type of screen. lol

Luckily only a couple of tiny spots I think the screen will survive :)

hankk

Canon EOS-5D

04/16/2007 10:25:45 AM · #20

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Originally posted by Federico:
and also a larger maximum IMHO...
like 800 pixel for the largest side and 250Kb, we're in 2007 :)

Some people (Not me im @ 1280x1024) are still on 800x600 and 1024x768. 720 would be the max width for anyone on 800x600 in a realistic situation.

D&L should be able to tell what screen resolutions people use to view the site.

Google Analytics shows that most people viewing my site have 1024x768 or better monitors, only about 4.5% have 800x600, and very few have smaller than that. OTOH, my site is a very different kind of site, and DPC may have very different numbers. Here's the google analytics results:

04/16/2007 11:11:57 AM · #21

Originally posted by hankk:

OTOH, my site is a very different kind of site, and DPC may have very different numbers. Here's the google analytics results:

800x5000? That's one LONG and NARROW screen!

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

04/16/2007 11:47:56 AM · #22

Originally posted by joynim:

... I have come across several images that are too small. One was obviously taken by someone who knew what were doing photography wise, that gave me an idea. ...

Two comments:

1-There are numerous circumstances, if not most, where smaller than maximum but larger than minimum sizes on either the horizontal or vertical dimension for images are very appropriate, particularly for proper aspecting, and the size message would become annoying. Use voter comments to inform the photographer you think the size did not work.

2-For a site like DPC devoted to inspiring photographic excellence through education and competition it is probably time to increase the maximum size of entries to 800 X 720 pixels and file size to 200-250 kilobytes. The vast majority of DPCers have monitors that can handle it with room left over for screen real estate needed for other stuff.

Message edited by author 2007-04-16 11:48:37.

levyj413

Nikon D7100

04/16/2007 12:04:15 PM · #23

Sheesh. Maybe it's time to lock this thread? The original suggestion was a good one, but the noise to signal ratio discussing it is very high. For one thing, could people please go argue max. screen size in any of the various threads Karmat provided?

I'd go with the suggestion to warn people if neither dimension is at least 480. It's not a block, just a warning. If one dimension is longer than 480, don't display it.

Langdon, I suggest you just implement it and see if anyone complains. I bet no one will.

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II