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04/05/2007 04:02:43 PM · #1 |
| I may never get to take another photo again...:( I study for hours every night, without 1 second to spare for my camera which is now all dusty. Woe is me. |
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04/05/2007 04:03:43 PM · #2 |
what's school?
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Message edited by author 2007-04-05 16:03:54. |
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04/05/2007 04:05:53 PM · #3 |
Drop out and work as a photographer full time. Do it.
...I want to, but 1 more year of classes and I'll have my degree, even if it's in a field that I don't want to work in. |
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04/05/2007 04:08:11 PM · #4 |
I know precisely how you feel. School = black hole.
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04/05/2007 04:09:12 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Drop out and work as a photographer full time. Do it.
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That might be one of the worst pieces of advice EVER... LOL
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 16:09:32.
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04/05/2007 04:10:48 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Drop out and work as a photographer full time. Do it.
...I want to, but 1 more year of classes and I'll have my degree, even if it's in a field that I don't want to work in. |
Your degree in a specific field? You're not 17, eh?
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04/05/2007 04:11:55 PM · #7 |
tell me about it, i've been in school since..... well actually all my life :)
and still have 2 more years to go!!!!
but then again i will get the cool 'Dr.' infront of my last name :)
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 16:12:06. |
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04/05/2007 04:14:16 PM · #8 |
I feel your pain I hate school and yet I am still in it. I think school is the devils work.
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04/05/2007 04:14:20 PM · #9 |
Edit to add: The intended audience for this post probably does not include the OP or Rebecca as they working and going to grad-school...it was aimed more to people younger than me.
pfft. school was cake compared to the working world. when i was in high school i bitched about it. when i got to college i longed to be less responisble and back in high school and i bitched about college. now that i have a full time job, not in photography :( i wish i was back in college with fewer responsibilities and more time to concentrate on my hobby. it really sucks trying to make time for fun.
moral of the story: life is sucks, then you die.
*que the touchy-feely-"Full House" music*
life is too short to not enjoy the time you have now. If I had it to do over again, I would take a B or C on a test/paper any day of the week to have time to go shoot pictures or hang with my friends. Just remember a 2.5 gets you the same diploma as a 3.9. GPA is overrated. Trust me on that one. I had a 4.0 straight through High School. College taught me that B's and C's aren't that bad. I got a job that I like...it's no pro photographer, but it'll do...and no one once looked at my GPA.
Second moral of the story: if something is important to you and you haven't had anytime to do it, make time to do it, even if that means bumping some other things down a notch.
Drew's $0.02
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 16:44:10. |
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04/05/2007 04:15:34 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by zaflabout:
tell me about it, i've been in school since..... well actually all my life :)
and still have 2 more years to go!!!!
but then again i will get the cool 'Dr.' infront of my last name :)
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... and MD plates on your Porsche... how cool is that.
Ray |
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04/05/2007 04:18:08 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by zaflabout:
tell me about it, i've been in school since..... well actually all my life :)
and still have 2 more years to go!!!!
but then again i will get the cool 'Dr.' infront of my last name :)
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... and MD plates on your Porsche... how cool is that.
Ray |
not really :( i am doing a PhD is there a PhD license plate?:) |
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04/05/2007 04:23:58 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
pfft. school was cake compared to the working world. when i was in high school i bitched about it. when i got to college i longed to be less responisble and back in high school and i bitched about college. now that i have a full time job, not in photography :( i wish i was back in college with fewer responsibilities and more time to concentrate on my hobby. it really sucks trying to make time for fun.
moral of the story: life is sucks, then you die.
*que the touchy-feely-"Full House" music*
life is too short to not enjoy the time you have now. If I had it to do over again, I would take a B or C on a test/paper any day of the week to have time to go shoot pictures or hang with my friends. Just remember a 2.5 gets you the same diploma as a 3.9. GPA is overrated. Trust me on that one. I had a 4.0 straight through High School. College taught me that B's and C's aren't that bad. I got a job that I like...it's no pro photographer, but it'll do...and no one once looked at my GPA.
Second moral of the story: if something is important to you and you haven't had anytime to do it, make time to do it, even if that means bumping some other things down a notch.
Drew's $0.02 |
I dunno, comparing my full-time job to my part-time grad school, grad school is much more demanding and time-consuming. All I ever do at home is study, because if I don't then I'm going to fail. If I go out, it's to a team project meeting. Why put myself through this? I've discovered the hard way that my grades do matter. An average GPA from ten years ago, when I cared more about "not letting college get in the way of my education" is hurting my job prospects right now. Interesting how the passing of a decade can change one's perspective.
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04/05/2007 04:26:30 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Drop out and work as a photographer full time. Do it.
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That might be one of the worst pieces of advice EVER... LOL |
I would make a bad professional photographer.
I am working and going to school, so I am just fried. 12-15 credit hours and a full time job will wear you out. I am really tired. I have about 2 years left and I will have my masters, so in the end it will be worth it. But for now it stinks because I never get to play on DPC!
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04/05/2007 04:29:13 PM · #14 |
I will go on a murderous rampage if anyone asks me to make a bloody program ever again...
I swear I'm on the brink of madness...
Even thinking about uni makes me angry..
*Runs away screaming*
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04/05/2007 04:29:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
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...Interesting how the passing of a decade can change one's perspective. |
Yes indeed... most parents know exactly what you are saying here. Teenagers for the most part view their parents as mindless dolts who constantly but up barriers and obstacles to make their lives miserable. Funny how parents get wiser with the passage of time... I know mine sure did.
Ray |
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04/05/2007 04:30:11 PM · #16 |
| i think that theory of just getting b's and c's is crap. It is an excuse to get a b or c. Well atleast i was having fun. It will get you in a bad situation of even more pressure and stress when exams come along. Then you have to get a high a or b to pass. Why not try your hardest and do your best. GPA does matter. Show me someone with a 4.0 and show me someone with a 2.5. No doubt about it the kid with a 4.0 worked his/her butt off and is smarter then the kid in college with a 2.5 average. |
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04/05/2007 04:34:01 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
I dunno, comparing my full-time job to my part-time grad school, grad school is much more demanding and time-consuming. All I ever do at home is study, because if I don't then I'm going to fail. If I go out, it's to a team project meeting. Why put myself through this? I've discovered the hard way that my grades do matter. An average GPA from ten years ago, when I cared more about "not letting college get in the way of my education" is hurting my job prospects right now. Interesting how the passing of a decade can change one's perspective. |
I wasn't thinking about post B.S/A., as I have no experience there. I was just remembering my days as a full-time HS student, then full-time undergrad. It wasn't until after I posted that I thought to look at the OP's profile to see age. And I guess I benefit from selecting a more "field work" oriented field where we leave most of the bugeting and $$$ figuring up to our office support system. I refused to let my 3.1something GPA slow me down against 4.0 opponent in an interview.
For me, I would say "Too much work. My camera is collecting too much dust!"
-Drew |
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04/05/2007 04:37:33 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by superdave:
Show me someone with a 4.0 and show me someone with a 2.5. No doubt about it the kid with a 4.0 worked his/her butt off and is smarter then the kid in college with a 2.5 average. |
I beg to differ. I didn't have a 2.5 (more like 3.1ish) but I was just as smart at any 4.0 guy/gal in my department. If not smarter. Plus I had real life experiences throughout...not just pages of books burned into the back of my skull. |
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04/05/2007 04:41:18 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by superdave:
i think that theory of just getting b's and c's is crap. It is an excuse to get a b or c. Well atleast i was having fun. |
criminal law and global business is a little different than fisheries and wildlife biology.
i can see you having some average joes wanting to be average cops in your field, so i understand where you have seen 2.5ers aspiring to be beat cops and 4.0ers aspiring to be lead detectives/captains/chiefs.
but in my experiences. it is experiences that make the person, not soley the grades. |
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04/05/2007 04:43:18 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by superdave:
i think that theory of just getting b's and c's is crap. It is an excuse to get a b or c. Well atleast i was having fun. It will get you in a bad situation of even more pressure and stress when exams come along. Then you have to get a high a or b to pass. Why not try your hardest and do your best. GPA does matter. Show me someone with a 4.0 and show me someone with a 2.5. No doubt about it the kid with a 4.0 worked his/her butt off and is smarter then the kid in college with a 2.5 average. |
Such generalizations are a bit harsh... some of us b and c students out there have a good reason. The more I work, the more my grades suffer, that's for sure. I think the best time I ever had was when I first went to college. No job, full time school, I never studied and I had a 4.0. But now I know that being exhausted from working all day means you actually have to study. I'm pretty content with my B average, now.
Though boomtap is crazy! Full time work AND full time school! Yikes!
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 16:43:50. |
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04/05/2007 04:46:36 PM · #21 |
School sucked for me in the '60s. I just wanted to get out of it. So, I did and went to work. I have worked damned hard all my life since with very little reward. I am not completely stupid, I could have done more with my life. In fact, I have learnt a lot since leaving school, but that doesn't help get good paid jobs.
So, here is your choice, stay in school and when you leave you have the chance of a great job, although that probably seems a long way off at the moment, or drop out, bum around and earn peanuts with loads of sweat for the rest of your life!! Is there really any choice? |
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04/05/2007 05:20:16 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
Originally posted by superdave:
Show me someone with a 4.0 and show me someone with a 2.5. No doubt about it the kid with a 4.0 worked his/her butt off and is smarter then the kid in college with a 2.5 average. |
I beg to differ. I didn't have a 2.5 (more like 3.1ish) but I was just as smart at any 4.0 guy/gal in my department. If not smarter. Plus I had real life experiences throughout...not just pages of books burned into the back of my skull. |
I have a 4.0 right now, and I can tell you it is much harder to keep, because every single thing I do or turn in better be right or I will have a B. You might be as smart as a guy with a 4.0, but he worked his tail off to get that 4.0. |
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04/05/2007 05:22:32 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Rebecca:
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...Interesting how the passing of a decade can change one's perspective. |
Funny how parents get wiser with the passage of time... I know mine sure did.
Ray |
This is not a recent phenomenon, either.
"When I was fourteen my father was so stupid I could barely stand to have the old man around. By the time I was twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in the last seven years."
--Mark Twain |
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04/05/2007 05:44:06 PM · #24 |
As an oldie (51) I have to confess that my school and college grades were not that great, my degree being in Aeronautical Engineering and I got a 2(ii) Hons - which is really a C in all bar name! Anyhow, by the time I was 28 I was the youngest senior manager in a large multi-national IT company and was working on the leading edge of IT research at the time. I just happened to have gone through Xerox in the early 80s and worked on one of the most ground-breaking IT projects of all time (the Xerox Star for those of a historical bent).
Bottom line here is that good grades are always useful - but so is being in the right place at the right time and doing the right thing.
Curiously, I did register to do a PhD a few years back but found that every time I thought I had a great idea, I was told to find someone else who had an idea like it so I could "build on the shoulders of giants!" I guess I was not suited to the rigours of academic research after all :-(
So stick with the school, guys, but remember, life has a way of changing as you go on and sometimes luck is as important as effort, but so less predictable! |
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04/05/2007 05:50:10 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
You might be as smart as a guy with a 4.0, but he worked his tail off to get that 4.0. |
I'll take a lower GPA, keep my tail (drink a beer with my friends), and do just as well or better in an interview as this hypothetical guy...which one of us is smarter?
Message edited by author 2007-04-05 18:31:14. |
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