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Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

03/14/2007 02:32:53 PM · #76

pawdrix

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

03/14/2007 02:33:17 PM · #77

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Gosh darnit, he copied me too! And here I thought I had the copyright on squirrels!

Actually I have the copyright on Squirrels...

I'll see you in Court pal!

Strikeslip

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

03/14/2007 02:34:33 PM · #78

Originally posted by Techo:

Too funny Slip. I probably have one too somewhere on the HD.

WHAT!?!?!? You have a squirrel pic!??!?! You've got some nerve after beating out my lightbulb pic in the Glass with a Twist challenge with what... your own lightbulb!?!?! Why I oughta....

Techo

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

03/14/2007 02:36:53 PM · #79

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Techo:
Too funny Slip. I probably have one too somewhere on the HD.

WHAT!?!?!? You have a squirrel pic!??!?! You've got some nerve after beating out my lightbulb pic in the Glass with a Twist challenge with what... your own lightbulb!?!?! Why I oughta....

LOL! :D :P I had no doubt though that you'd ribbon.

Strikeslip

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

03/14/2007 02:41:36 PM · #80

Originally posted by Techo:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Techo:
Too funny Slip. I probably have one too somewhere on the HD.

WHAT!?!?!? You have a squirrel pic!??!?! You've got some nerve after beating out my lightbulb pic in the Glass with a Twist challenge with what... your own lightbulb!?!?! Why I oughta....

LOL! :D :P I had no doubt though that you'd ribbon.

You probably ate that poor ladybug afterwards. You're pure EVIL! ;-)

ShannonLee

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

03/14/2007 04:33:34 PM · #81

if you're going to be original
plan on being copied ;0)

pawdrix

Nikon D700

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

03/14/2007 04:43:33 PM · #82

I'd say the worst thing about this type of stuff is when people lavish gobs of credit and praise onto people that are most likely doing things that have been done a thousand times before. At the end of the day when you've traveled around a bit, it's much less impressive.

That lightbulb/painting thing has been done before...
Cat's staring into Goldfish bowls?...C'mon!
Grunge has been around for 20 years (probably longer)...

Perspective. I think people are having trouble digesting the fact that they pumped a guy up to Superhero status and he's just another dude doing what so many people do on a daily basis.

...Waterglass shots!!!

I blame Society....well, The System...Big Business?

;P

Message edited by author 2007-03-14 16:51:57.

SandyP

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 USM

03/14/2007 05:31:13 PM · #83

I think we all are inspired by each other's work, but its true, usually when we emulate them, we put our own touches on them, and if it's too close to the one we copied, we give credit where it's due.

I think Rikki just has some wires crossed or some very missing clues about what's right and wrong.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/14/2007 05:42:39 PM · #84

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

You probably ate that poor ladybug afterwards. You're pure EVIL! ;-)

Hey, waitaminute, you can't talk about ladybugs without talking to me first. I OWN ladybugs! Especially ladybugs on Gerberas. That's a class action lawsuit if you go there!

Didn't read the whole thread. It did look like Rikki had credited a number of the originals, but not in Deapees. He told me he forgot who had done it originally. It's tough to credit someone if you can't remember where it came from. Still, crediting is good when inspiration has a source. But honestly, how many of the shots here are inspired by someone else and how few give credit?

Turns out this week two of my entries are inspired by other DPC photos. (very ironically, one is Rikki's) I did mention them, but c'mon. I think there's a bit of "setting the bar just below our feet" going on in this thread.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/14/2007 05:45:43 PM · #85

It's either Rikki or gun control laws....

Qart

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/14/2007 06:28:49 PM · #86

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Not meant to express an opinion but rather to help with the investigation. :)

Message edited by author 2007-03-14 18:28:57.

03/14/2007 06:33:40 PM · #87

as far as i'm concerned - regarding the betta fish in a glass photo. no i was probably not the first to shoot something similar, i did come up with the idea with out finding similar shots online, and it has been re-done, so to speak a half dozen times here at DPC in a range of colors and compositions - with some of the photogs pointing to my image as the inspiration. in my mind it's an honor that folks would like to try to mimic, one-up, or learn from a photo i took.

on the other hand it's a different story if someone were to download my version, and post it as their own. Rikki got in some serious heat here at DPC for something that was truly wrong to do, and i feel - to some degree - he's taking some heat now for which he cannot defend himself. he didn't steal anyones work - merely tried to recreate it in a similar fashion. if you want your IDEAS to be protected you'll have to jump through some serious hoops, and likely spend a fair amount of money.

i think the title of the thread sums it up. be flattered that others are awe struck or inpsired enough to try to emulate your work.

i'm not trying to stand up for anyone - merely pointing out that sometimes things need to be taken at face value.

oOWonderBreadOo

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

03/14/2007 06:56:36 PM · #88

Originally posted by Telehubbie:

I remember somebody here doing this same thing in blue:

hahaha, yeah... it was for the Deja Vu Challenge!!! :0P

Message edited by author 2007-03-14 18:57:00.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

03/14/2007 06:59:59 PM · #89

Originally posted by soup:

if you want your IDEAS to be protected you'll have to jump through some serious hoops, and likely spend a fair amount of money.

I don't see a way you could protect them really. Copyright wouldn't apply. Patents wouldn't apply. Ideas aren't protectable in any meaningful way when it comes to photographs. There was an interesting Slate article on plagiarism (which is really what this is - visual plagiarism) recently.

Immature artists imitate. Mature artists steal.

Message edited by author 2007-03-14 19:00:41.

03/14/2007 07:08:19 PM · #90

that's why i said - in other words - spend ALOT of money. there is a way to do anything if you have the funds i would imagine.

i wouldn't - personally - consider this plagerism. at least until - as you mention - there is a reasonably affordable and controllable way to register an idea- therefore 'protecting' it in some documentable manner. although MS windows does spring to mind. but even so, the patent system is full of holes as it is... so it'll likely never happen.

Originally posted by Gordon:

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

03/14/2007 07:09:59 PM · #91

Originally posted by soup:

that's why i said - in other words - spend ALOT of money. there is a way to do anything if you have the funds i would imagine.

Urm, no. I was disagreeing with you. Ideas in this form don't make any sense whatsoever as patents. The image itself is copyrighted. Ideas specifically can't be copyrighted. Perhaps a clever way to achieve it could be marginally be patentable, but the idea itself isn't patentable at all.

Lots of money wouldn't help you.

Also, in every case in this thread, the ideas aren't exactly original anyway.

Message edited by author 2007-03-14 19:11:50.

03/14/2007 07:11:48 PM · #92

actually - once you 'take' the photograph - it's not really an IDEA any more.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

03/14/2007 07:12:28 PM · #93

Originally posted by soup:

actually - once you 'take' the photograph - it's not really an IDEA any more.

Of course it is. There's the idea and there is a photograph of it. The idea still exists.