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03/11/2007 11:07:08 PM · #1 |
A local cover band asked me to take some photos of them. The photo, if they pick one, will be placed over and over in local entertainment newspapers when they play.
They have little or no money. I have nothing in my portfolio.
How do the pros do it? Does the band pay once for the photo and the rights to use it everywhere whenever they want?
They asked for the photo in digital format.
What do I charge?
Does anyone here specialize in Band Photography? I have been looking around at some samples. Any suggestions?
I would appreciate the help.
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03/11/2007 11:30:19 PM · #2 |
pros don't usually touch this stuff unless they are feeling really generous, because, well, they have to get paid by someone in order to pay their bills. and if the band doesn't have any money, well, who's going to pay for the pro?
do it for free, with the understanding that you and a guest will be permanently on their guestlist whenever they play, and that they will pay for your beer. (also, it's not true that if you do it for free or cheap that you can never raise your rates. everybody starts somewhere...)
request that you get credited whenever the photo is used.
give them a contract that allows them to use the image for normal marketing and PR, but not for any commercial product (ie, bumper stickers, t-shirts, album art, etc.).
if you do it and enjoy it, research it more and maybe you can find a way to make money at it. good luck! |
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03/11/2007 11:31:11 PM · #3 |
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03/11/2007 11:53:41 PM · #4 |
Awesome. Thanks for the link.
Maybe $50 for gas. (I have a 1 hour drive.) Credit me on the photo. Guest list. Contract to only use for PR, but not products.
They may want some headshots too. I will have to work out something for that.
What resolution should I give them for newspaper ads. Should I save the high res stuff for them to purchase seperatey?
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03/12/2007 07:10:09 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by TonyT:
What resolution should I give them for newspaper ads. Should I save the high res stuff for them to purchase seperatey? |
give them 200dpi files sized to 12" on the longest side, saved as jpg10. put your copyright info in the File Info.
basically, this work comes in two flavors: paid and unpaid. and there are basically three types of clients: those making money, those with the potential to make money, and those who won't.
if you are doing it unpaid for someone already making money, you had better have a good reason to be doing it ;-)
if you are doing it unpaid for someone who probably won't really make much money, do it and be done with it. (unless you want to also be an unpaid PR person.)
if you are doing it unpaid for someone who stands a chance to really make good money, work something out.
if it's paid, it doesn't matter, does it? |
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03/12/2007 08:45:56 AM · #6 |
If I was in your situation, I might allow all non-commercial promotional work,(posters, flyers, etc...), but reserve print publication use,(music magazines, newspapers, websites - including their own), and profit-making things that Skip mentioned;
Originally posted by Skip:
... bumper stickers, t-shirts, album art, ... |
You never know; if the band ever ends up making money, they might pay you to shoot their gigs!!!
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03/19/2007 11:20:37 AM · #7 |
I would give them the high res and full rights to do what the want with it. I do a lot of local music and most of it is free. Why? Most bands have no money and if you don't do it, some friend with a point and shoot will do it. Word of mouth is good too. If this band knows other bands in the same situation, you may get some others calling for your sevice which again would probably be free. Most of these bands will flop. You start to charge if one of them doesn't flop and you have been with them through the whole thing. I did free photos for Japhy Ryder for 2 years. Now they are starting to do well and I 1. own all the originals (many that they haven't even seen). 2. I did their album cover and inside art and get paid as the albums sell. 3. I travel on long tours (7 days+) all expenses covered. I also get treated like one of the band as apposed to the outsider.
My theory is I would rather get a reputation as a live music photog and get paid $100s when they can afford it rather than get paid $50 that the band has to scrape together. Good luck. |
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