DPChallenge: A Digital Photography Contest You are not logged in. (log in or register
 

DPChallenge Forums >> Rant >> Voting and Comments
Pages:  
Showing posts 1 - 25 of 51, (reverse)
AuthorThread
05/14/2002 04:04:21 PM · #1
So far I have had 126 people vote on my photo for this challenge, but I have received only 13 comments. Is 10% about normal?
05/14/2002 04:16:16 PM · #2
Originally posted by BAMartin:
So far I have had 126 people vote on my photo for this challenge, but I have received only 13 comments. Is 10% about normal?

same here for voters, but i only have 8 comments! i wonder if, judging by the last two challenges where i received 30-50 comments, that maybe people only comment on the best/worse/needs-help
pictures, and don't have much to say about the ones they think are average? (or slightly below, if my score has anything to do with it!!:) on the other hand, it is only tuesday. there are still
several days to vote and comment. over half my comments last time were later in the week!
05/14/2002 04:25:37 PM · #3
I know I vote on everything at one sitting early in the week and then come back and comment on them as the week goes by (and change my votes if I think I need to).
05/14/2002 04:46:03 PM · #4
Commenting was lax for me last week and looks like it will be again this week... 123 votes and 14 comments...


05/14/2002 05:07:21 PM · #5
This weeks pic for me is easily doing the worst of my 3 meager submissions (no surprise to me), and it is also garnering the fewest comments. I think someone else commented on this in another thread, that there is a definite relationship between how well the photo does and number of comments it gets. It would be interesting to see if there is some theorem or formula which could express that relationship between rating and comments.

Well, interesting to me, at least...


05/14/2002 05:21:00 PM · #6
I made that comment and I still think it holds true... don't feel bad about falling scores... I posted 5 photos that consecutively scored lower than the last... I am hoping to break that streak this time.. :)

05/14/2002 05:38:52 PM · #7
My score is bad enough...but some of the comments are even worse...lol. Oh well....try, try again. :)
05/14/2002 05:48:32 PM · #8
Are other people getting scores as low as me? Are we allowed to talk about that kind of stuff before the voting is complete? I'm averaging scores in the 4 range. Don't know if its normal or not...
05/14/2002 05:57:50 PM · #9
maybe people are just tired ...
05/14/2002 05:58:36 PM · #10
Go ahead and flame me for having too much time on my hands but I thought it would be fun to make a graph of Comments vs. Placement. I only did this for the Advertising challenge so far. Note that the # of comments does not include comments made after voting ended. Take this data however you want.

The pink line is the actual comparison and the black line is the average.

Comments vs. Placement Graph
05/14/2002 07:23:21 PM · #11
greenem

your graph makes sense. it appears to illustrate the common sense hypothesis that people feel more comfortable declaring approval.

as interest declines in an inoffensive manner, people have less and less to say because few can muster the cojones or articulation to comment on less ostensibly 'interesting' pictures that don't provoke an actively negative response.

finally at the bottom, we have the images that provoke an active negative response, and again people feel justified in speaking out against what they perceive to be an affront of some kind.

this also helps determine what it takes to get most people and not just the usual '1 givers' to also give '1's'.

of course, to verify this, you'd need to graph all the challenges and see if it's consistent <hint, hint : ) >
05/14/2002 07:35:58 PM · #12
I think you also need to look at the kind of comments: positive, negative, neutral, criticism, etc etc etc. This is purely hypothetical, because I haven't been in to look, but what if there are more "constructive criticism" comments in the middle in comparison to at the upper end, but more "atta-boy/girl" comments lending to filling out the number of comments at the top?

Is this making sense? I haven't had dinner yet and think I may be having a sugar low. ;-)
05/14/2002 08:19:43 PM · #13
Originally posted by Patella:
I know I vote on everything at one sitting early in the week and then come back and comment on them as the week goes by (and change my votes if I think I need to).

I'm the same way. It usually takes me two days to get through my initial numeric voting and another four days to add comments and tweak my votes.

05/16/2002 05:34:49 PM · #14
Here's an example of a great comment that I received on my photo today:

5/16/2002 (2:36:00 PM) - OK, this is going to sound hypercritical (like I couldn't think of anything else to say) and in some respects, I guess it is. I can't see anything about the photo I would "fix". Nice focal depth, good lighting and contrast, etc. But the photo as a whole just doesn't do it for me. That's not doing anything to my score (it's very high), but I thought you might like to know.That's just a personal thing and you are certainly welcome to ignore it.

This is the BEST comment I have received on my photo this week. Out of almost 180 votes, I have received only 19 comments so far.

This comment tells me a lot. The voter is content with the technical quality of my image, but just doesn't care for the subject of the photo. This is the only comment I have received so far that tells me truly how someone feels about my photo. Obviously, I would have preferred that the voter liked the subject, but this particular voter used a very tactful way to tell me that the photo just didn't strike him/her as interesting. I get a few 'nice shot' and 'good job' comments here and there, but I REALLY appreciate this person taking the time to say what was said.

This particular comment helps me reaffirm my own goals here. I want to make photos that are technically correct (or as close as possible). When subjectivity is being judged, I *know* that I can't make a photo that *everyone* will like. When I become a 'technically correct' photographer, I will indeed spend more time applying my newly acquired technical skills on subjects that may or may not be more appealing to everyone. My photo subjects are *purely* subjects that appeal to me. I can't remember the last time I took a hobby photo of something that I didn't like.

Kudos to this voter and I will be sending a personal thanks via email or private message when the name is revealed :)

Cheers!

05/17/2002 04:25:17 AM · #15
jmsetzler, I got a couple of those too. It tells me that you really have to find a subject that is "out of the norm" to get noticed and not fall into the pack. I too, have made the same observation that many photos don't do much for me, even though they were excellent photos technically. I am looking for shots (from my own work)that really get my attention and jump out at me, but they are few a far between. I think the same is true for submissions, there are always a handful of submissions that "junp out and grab me", but most do not. The ones that "jump out and grab me" are the ones that I tend to score the highest.
05/17/2002 06:58:01 AM · #16
Well, seeing as how I have really watched these kinds of threads a lot here's my take on it.

The site is WIDE open. Everyone from grandma to the local art critic to a 8 year old kid can come here and vote. Out of the roughly 200 votes received each week there are maybe 5% that are truly helpful by being specific enough in their comment that you can garner some idea of their motivation. Another 5% that try to give general idea of their feeling. And about 10% that don't go beyond an "Atta-boy" or a "Boring".

Of course that means about 80% of the votes you get have no comment at all.

As nearly a 40 year old who has enough background in graphic design, art, blah, blah, blah.. Any comment I get is fine. Any comment I DON"T get is fine. I am at a point in my life where the participation here is enough keep my interest. I read so much today and remember so much from past study and experience I need very little in the way of comment to help me a lot.
Mostly comments REMIND me of things or AFFIRM me of things I see myself.

My comments about folks not getting enough constructive comments to go along with the votes they recieved were always in mind that there are a lot of younger and/or less experienced folks here that could benefit a lot from specific comments.

But I think it is up to folks who feel they need more specific discussion about their photos to maybe start threads in the forums for that from now on.

Then we might get an idea of who REALLY wants more detailed analysis of their photo. I know I learn more that way.

* This message has been edited by the author on 5/17/2002 6:58:25 AM.
05/18/2002 08:37:35 AM · #17
i would also venture, hokie, that, in the same vein, you can use the # of comments you get as some kind of a barometer as well.

if i got like 5 comments during the entire voting, would that mean that my picture was boring? or just not salvageable? that's how i definitely would interpret it.

in fact, that's the situation i'm in this week, lol.


* This message has been edited by the author on 5/18/2002 8:38:01 AM.
05/18/2002 10:26:35 AM · #18
I thought this was true as well, but I am receiving an unusually low number of comments this week. My score is fine... Actually, probably my highest score yet but the number of comments is a little weak based on the score...

I believe my subject didn't stir much emotion this week...


Originally posted by magnetic9999:
i would also venture, hokie, that, in the same vein, you can use the # of comments you get as some kind of a barometer as well.

if i got like 5 comments during the entire voting, would that mean that my picture was boring? or just not salvageable? that's how i definitely would interpret it.

in fact, that's the situation i'm in this week, lol.



05/18/2002 11:17:39 AM · #19
I'm in the same boat...my current submission is scoring quite a bit higher than my last one, and yet it has gotten literally HALF the comments. Oh well, I don't mind as long as at least some of the comments are helpful...
05/18/2002 12:00:33 PM · #20
The 'helpful' nature of the comments are lacking this week... If I'm not getting votes of '10' I would love to know how I could have gotten a 10. In my case, I think it's purely subject matter. My subject isn't appealing to most I believe. I would love to hear that in a comment if it's the case though...

05/18/2002 12:21:02 PM · #21
i got a helpful post instructing me to shave my model's legs. no joke : )
05/19/2002 08:30:53 AM · #22
My 7 year old daughter just signed up as a photographer. She has entered her first photo into the games challenge. I have never seen a kid so excited. Granted, her photo will not win any prizes, but its pretty good for a 7 year old. I hope that the comments she gets are at least kind and instructive.
05/19/2002 08:43:06 AM · #23
You make a good point, BAMartin. Woudn't it be great if everyone tried to write their comments as if they were writing to a seven-year-old? The comments would probably be clear, respectful (but honest) and hopefully somewhat encouraging. I know MOST of us are not seven, but do we deserve any less? It will be interesting to see her work, and the comments she gets. Good luck! :)
05/19/2002 08:47:01 AM · #24
My 9 year old daughter signed up a few weeks ago, and entered a photo in the "From the Ground Up" challenge. Her picture (of me) was "Hi Dad!". The entry garnered lots of instructive comments while (predictably) not in the running for a prize. She will probably enter a photo in the "Games" challenge as well. DPChallenge is a great opportunity for kids to learn this hobby.

sjgleah

Originally posted by BAMartin:
My 7 year old daughter just signed up as a photographer. She has entered her first photo into the games challenge. I have never seen a kid so excited. Granted, her photo will not win any prizes, but its pretty good for a 7 year old. I hope that the comments she gets are at least kind and instructive.



* This message has been edited by the author on 5/19/2002 8:47:39 AM.
05/19/2002 08:47:14 AM · #25
That's where I've been going wrong - writing my comments as if I were a seven year old. Best of luck!
Pages:  
Current Server Time: 12/03/2021 08:45:54 AM

Please log in or register to post to the forums.


Home - Challenges - Community - League - Photos - Cameras - Lenses - Learn - Prints! - Help - Terms of Use - Privacy - Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2021 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Proudly hosted by Sargasso Networks. Current Server Time: 12/03/2021 08:45:54 AM EST.