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01/25/2007 01:00:02 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by ursula:
....I must say I am really curious as to who the 3 new SC will be.... |
Langdon already wrote me back, I've got one of the spots on SC. I don't know who the other two will be.
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01/25/2007 01:00:46 PM · #127 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Now, where's that "Ex-SCs Club"? That's one gripey bunch, let me tell you :) |
I think we need a forum. Or at least some icons. Little walking sticks or 'curmudgeon' signs. The SC seems to spit people out bitter and cantankerous :)
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01/25/2007 01:01:06 PM · #128 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by ursula:
....I must say I am really curious as to who the 3 new SC will be.... |
Langdon already wrote me back, I've got one of the spots on SC. I don't know who the other two will be.
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01/25/2007 01:05:22 PM · #129 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by ursula:
Now, where's that "Ex-SCs Club"? That's one gripey bunch, let me tell you :) |
I think we need a forum. Or at least some icons. Little walking sticks or 'curmudgeon' signs. The SC seems to spit people out bitter and cantankerous :) |
perhaps something along these lines?  |
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01/25/2007 01:17:53 PM · #130 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by ursula:
Now, where's that "Ex-SCs Club"? That's one gripey bunch, let me tell you :) |
I think we need a forum. Or at least some icons. Little walking sticks or 'curmudgeon' signs. The SC seems to spit people out bitter and cantankerous :) |
perhaps something along these lines? |
Oh, yes. A white beard, I like it. But it needs a pink shirt. |
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01/25/2007 01:23:01 PM · #131 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by mist:
It sounds fun... |
Did you not read Nards' post? ;-) |
Oh yes. It sounded very exciting :D |
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01/25/2007 01:30:00 PM · #132 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
perhaps something along these lines? |
If I wasn't as busy as I am now (own business, study, etc) I'd seriously consider to write a letter.
Also to have a cool icon :P
Message edited by author 2007-01-25 13:30:14. |
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01/25/2007 01:33:05 PM · #133 |
Originally posted by biteme:
If I wasn't as busy as I am now (own business, study, etc) I'd seriously consider to write a letter. Also to have a cool icon :P |
Han on SC? That would be COOL.
Message edited by author 2007-01-25 13:34:01. |
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01/25/2007 01:37:34 PM · #134 |
Originally posted by biteme:
Also to have a cool icon :P |
We've already seen your icon... LOL.
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01/25/2007 01:45:37 PM · #135 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I'm not trying to minimize what the SC does, but serving on the SC is something the SC members choose to do. If some members of the SC have a hard time coping with the pressures of the position, then perhaps it's time for them to re-evaluate the position they hold.
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Boy, sure sounds like you're minimizing it.
But taking you at your word, I'd say your post meshes with Nards' quite well. You're absolutely right that it's something SC members choose to do. I think he was trying to help potential applicants understand what they were committing to, precisely so that people don't volunteer in ignorance.
I give great credit to the people who sign up for leadership positions, not take away simply because it was their choice to do it.
Finally, who suggested that SC members are having a hard time coping?
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01/25/2007 01:51:46 PM · #136 |
isnt it obvious? they all wear sunglasses....from all the hard drinking they do at the end of the day, thats how they cope.
Originally posted by levyj413:
Finally, who suggested that SC members are having a hard time coping? |
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01/25/2007 01:52:07 PM · #137 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
But taking you at your word, I'd say your post meshes with Nards' quite well. You're absolutely right that it's something SC members choose to do. I think he was trying to help potential applicants understand what they were committing to, precisely so that people don't volunteer in ignorance.
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I think that is exactly what he was trying to do. It sounds like it would be cool to have all of our super secret SC powers (and it is), but he is speaking from all those times of experience when he has seen me literally bite my tongue (or fingers) to keep from replying, and walking away from the computer in a bit of a huff. (And that was just because I was mad at scalvert or something. hahahahaha -- just kidding, shannon)
I think what most people don't realize is the part of the post where he talks about enforcing rules you may not like, going along with decisions that you don't agree with and things like that. It is truly a team effort. What "karmat" wants/thinks/believes will be listened to and thought about, but in the end, I have to swallow my preferences and go along with the group.
That is difficult, under the best of circumstances.
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01/25/2007 02:04:19 PM · #138 |
If I can throw my two cents worth in here:
Speaking from extensive personal experience as a past moderator/administrator of two different sites as large and complex as DPC (//www.eliters.com and //www.ablemuse.com/erato/) Nards has hit the nail on the head. Site Council members have an immense, complex, and often frustrating job to do, and while it can be very rewarding for those who truly love the site, it can also be a ridiculously thankless task.
Karmat also is speaking absolute truth when she points out, in effect, that one of the primary skills required of SC is that they be able to operate in an environment of consensus-building, where personal inclinations must frequently be subsumed into the group dynamic. That's not an easy thing to do.
Thanks, both, for excellent, level-headed posts pointing out what's really involved in volunteering for this position.
And thanks to all current and past SC for their willingness to undertake it :-)
Robt.
Message edited by author 2007-01-25 14:06:16.
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01/25/2007 02:56:55 PM · #139 |
| You wanna kiss a few babies while you are at it Robert? :) |
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01/25/2007 03:02:00 PM · #140 |
Originally posted by biteme:
If I wasn't as busy as I am now (own business, study, etc) I'd seriously consider to write a letter.
Also to have a cool icon :P |
Hah, I know what you mean. I thought about it for half a second before reminding myself that I already don't have time for everything I'm involved in - working full-time, running a small business part-time, graduate school, photography, etc. I need to spend less time here, not more!
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01/25/2007 03:39:05 PM · #141 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I'm not trying to minimize what the SC does, but serving on the SC is something the SC members choose to do. If some members of the SC have a hard time coping with the pressures of the position, then perhaps it's time for them to re-evaluate the position they hold.
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Boy, sure sounds like you're minimizing it.
But taking you at your word, I'd say your post meshes with Nards' quite well. You're absolutely right that it's something SC members choose to do. I think he was trying to help potential applicants understand what they were committing to, precisely so that people don't volunteer in ignorance.
I give great credit to the people who sign up for leadership positions, not take away simply because it was their choice to do it.
Finally, who suggested that SC members are having a hard time coping? |
I give credit to the folks that volunteer for such leadership positions too. I'm not implying that a position on the SC is a cakewalk or is not difficult work at times. It is, however, something they volunteered for and can easily un-volunteer for too.
I have no idea if any members of the SC are having difficulty coping, I only see the discussion about what a hassle it is being on the SC and I know that, all too often, people get caught up in and stressed out over something they volunteered for, never considering the fact that it is possible to simply walk away.
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01/25/2007 03:51:51 PM · #142 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
...it is possible to simply walk away. |
"Walk away," yes. "Run away screaming," most probably. But "simply," probably not. |
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01/25/2007 04:01:49 PM · #143 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
I think we need a forum. Or at least some icons. Little walking sticks or 'curmudgeon' signs. The SC seems to spit people out bitter and cantankerous :) |
Oh, come off it Gordon. We all know you started that way. ;-)
~Terry
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01/25/2007 04:05:59 PM · #144 |
"simply walking away" from SC is kinda like "simply walking away from dpc."
There are times when you think it probably should be done, but in the end, it isn't quite as easy as that.
:) |
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01/25/2007 04:18:30 PM · #145 |
Originally posted by karmat:
"simply walking away" from SC is kinda like "simply walking away from dpc."
There are times when you think it probably should be done, but in the end, it isn't quite as easy as that.
:) |
I know from experience in similar situations that it never seems that simple until it's done. However, if the stress of online, unpaid volunteer job is intruding significantly into someone's off line life, then walking away may be the best thing.
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01/25/2007 04:27:20 PM · #146 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by karmat:
"simply walking away" from SC is kinda like "simply walking away from dpc."
There are times when you think it probably should be done, but in the end, it isn't quite as easy as that.
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I know from experience in similar situations that it never seems that simple until it's done. However, if the stress of online, unpaid volunteer job is intruding significantly into someone's off line life, then walking away may be the best thing. |
It is quite possible to walk away when the frustrations of volunteering become more than what a person is willing to live with, or when job obligations get in the way, or when interests change, or simply because a person needs a change. But people are different, and some people are more inclined to do so than others, and it works out better for some than for others.
But I don't think it is ever easy, because whenever you've formed strong attachments, they're difficult to cut.
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01/25/2007 04:29:32 PM · #147 |
I think 10 people should be selected and then have a vote on the front of the site. Let's make this democratic!
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01/25/2007 04:31:29 PM · #148 |
Personally I think it would be gramatically possible to "simply walk away" without the walking away being simple.
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01/25/2007 04:33:35 PM · #149 |
Originally posted by klstover:
Personally I think it would be gramatically possible to "simply walk away" without the walking away being simple. |
:-)
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01/25/2007 04:33:38 PM · #150 |
Originally posted by chafer:
I think 10 people should be selected and then have a vote on the front of the site. Let's make this democratic! |
'Tis not a democracy. |
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