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Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

01/18/2007 10:38:15 PM · #29

Let's give it a try!!

I don't want to bring this up but some people have the advantage of multiple exposures in-camera.

Keith Maniac

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

01/18/2007 10:39:57 PM · #30

Originally posted by chimericvisions:

And yet this stupid phrase is still in there...

"use any feature of your camera while photographing your entry."

Yeah, but realistically I think that phrase has to be there. Suppose that certain camera features were disallowed. If someone submits a photo, there's no way to prove that they used an illegal feature on their camera. Which means it has to be legal, because DPC doesn't rely on the honor system.

Message edited by author 2007-01-18 22:43:56.

jdannels

Nikon D300s

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

01/18/2007 10:43:48 PM · #31

Originally posted by ivaldovi:

Let's give it a try!!

I don't want to bring this up but some people have the advantage of multiple exposures in-camera.

True, from my experience though I have never done one that didn't still need quite abit of work after being multi-exposed(I can't think of the right word), i.e. color correction or burning and dodging to even things up before I would consider entering it. I don't think it would do so well, but I could be wrong.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/18/2007 10:45:38 PM · #32

This is still way too liberal a rule set. I advocate one that disallows the use of a camera (bury or burn the sensor, that sort of thing) -or better yet another set that prohibits publishing the entry altogether in a contest especially created for this. (should I or should I not follow up with a smiley?)

Message edited by author 2007-01-18 22:46:40.

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

01/18/2007 10:47:16 PM · #33

I don't know how multiple exposures work in a digital camera (my model doesn't have it) but I would think you could adjust the exposures as one would do when doing multiexposures on a film camera.

It's just something else that needs to be worked out like contrast, saturation and sharpness.

Or maybe you don't have that much control.

fotomann_forever

01/18/2007 10:48:41 PM · #34

Originally posted by chimericvisions:

The point is that even in "Minimal Editing" multiple exposures are going to be allowed. It's even more BS than in Basic and Advanced.

You CAN do multiple exposures with the 350D... just takes a little more work.

Man_Called_Horse

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

01/18/2007 10:48:53 PM · #35

Pure old school with a digital twist.

This definetly is the yin to the yang with the "Expert Editing" rule set.

Nice.

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

01/18/2007 10:49:16 PM · #36

Originally posted by ivaldovi:

Let's give it a try!!

I don't want to bring this up but some people have the advantage of multiple exposures in-camera.

and some cameras take shots in sepia, and some cameras let you crop in-camera, etc. etc. etc.

there's really no way to completely level the playing field. :/

Originally posted by zeuszen:

in this case, i think the smiley is wholly unnecessary. :P

jdannels

Nikon D300s

01/18/2007 10:50:22 PM · #37

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

You have alot of control, I just am not that good to get it right straight from the camera :).

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

01/18/2007 10:51:14 PM · #38

Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
I don't know how multiple exposures work in a digital camera (my model doesn't have it) but I would think you could adjust the exposures as one would do when doing multiexposures on a film camera.

It's just something else that needs to be worked out like contrast, saturation and sharpness.

Or maybe you don't have that much control.

You have alot of control, I just am not that good to get it right straight from the camera :).

Something to work on? ;oP

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/18/2007 10:52:35 PM · #39

Originally posted by ivaldovi:

I don't want to bring this up but some people have the advantage of multiple exposures in-camera.

Just a personal opinion but, given the restrictive nature and intent of this rule set, I would imagine that someone using a fancy camera feature for the purpose of editing a shot (removing redeye or combining photos after the capture) might find themselves DQ'd under the spirit of the rules. That, or we might just have to put a disclaimer in there. Bottom line: I wouldn't try it! ;-)

Message edited by author 2007-01-18 22:53:57.

Keith Maniac

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

01/18/2007 10:53:35 PM · #40

Originally posted by zeuszen:

...should I or should I not follow up with a smiley?

Did you just think that to yourself, or did you actually type it out loud?

Message edited by author 2007-01-18 22:56:56.

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

01/18/2007 10:57:09 PM · #41

Delightful!! Thank you!

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

01/18/2007 10:57:14 PM · #42

Originally posted by Keith Maniac:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
...should I or should I not follow up with a smiley?

Did you just think that to yourself, or did you actually type it?

I think he has a computer that reads his mind. Scary. ;oP

Techo

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

01/18/2007 10:57:37 PM · #43

As I understand it no toning is allowed except via an in camera feature?

Message edited by author 2007-01-18 22:58:12.

01/18/2007 10:57:56 PM · #44

Originally posted by Techo:

Was wondering if it's ok to use the Channel Mixer to convert to greyscale? and as I understand it no toning is allowed except via an in camera feature?

no.

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Nikon

01/18/2007 10:58:39 PM · #45

Originally posted by minimal rules:

(You May) fully desaturate your image using your editing software's "desaturate," "convert to grayscale" or equivalent function. Customizable tools are not allowed.

no channel mixer, gradient map, hue/saturation.

Greetmir

Nikon D60

01/18/2007 10:59:11 PM · #46

ooOOooOOoo ... s e p i a ...

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

01/18/2007 10:59:27 PM · #47

Originally posted by Techo:

As I understand it no toning is allowed except via an in camera feature?

you can convert to grayscale using the methods in the ruleset. or, if your camera does toning in camera, you may use that.

Techo

Canon EOS-7D

01/18/2007 10:59:52 PM · #48

Originally posted by muckpond:

Originally posted by Techo:
Was wondering if it's ok to use the Channel Mixer to convert to greyscale? and as I understand it no toning is allowed except via an in camera feature?

no.

You're fast! :)

Thanks, I re-read that part about the channel mixer. So that's no to the "in camera toning" part as well?