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 01/07/2007 12:29:26 PM · #26
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:


Stop watching the broo-haha and start voting! ;-)

01/07/2007 12:31:19 PM · #27
Participants should not only be allowed to vote in the challenge in which they participate, but also vote for their own entry. There is precedent -- think about a democratic election. Does the candidate get to vote for themselves? (yes) It all works out in the end because even if you assume everyone only votes for themselves and gives themself a 10, then you get a tie. As it should be.
 01/07/2007 12:36:03 PM · #28
01/07/2007 01:38:04 PM · #29
How about the idea of witholding the particpants' score until the voting is over ? Rather than having a running average ?
 01/07/2007 03:16:18 PM · #30
Originally posted by Chiqui:
This topic has been discussed more times than I can count. Why keep beating a dead horse? Do a little search and you'll find several threads that discuss this same issue.

June


Not only is the subject new to those of us that never saw the previous threads, but each person has their opinion and ways of expressing it. You never know, someone might come along with an opinion that will totally change the way some people think on the subject.

Mike

Message edited by author 2007-01-07 15:20:19.
 01/07/2007 03:46:45 PM · #31
I think everyone here votes responsibly (except a few trolls). I would never vote low just to give my photo a chance to win. There is no problem with the way things are now. I say let everyone vote.
 01/07/2007 03:47:31 PM · #32
Originally posted by krgl:


Thanks for your 2 cents. I'm relatively new here, so this is a new horse for me. :)


K. But just don't change horses midstream, you could get wet! ;-)
 01/07/2007 03:49:12 PM · #33
I believe that if a voter has an entry in a challenge, and it is not doing well, they tend to reduce the votes un-subcontiously on other photos to bring there photo into line with what is happening, and good photos do not score as well, this is human nature,and you cannot beat nature.
So to stop voting on a challenge because you have an entry is negative thinking, and not in the best interest of the Site or the other members.

KEEP VOTING............Yahs All but a couple
............Nays Just a couple

PS. The main thing is to not let others know what you have entered, and then all is fair in love and war.

Message edited by author 2007-01-07 15:52:16.
 01/07/2007 03:52:15 PM · #34
Heck, if I couldn't vote in challenges I enter, I'd never be able to enter. Literally.
I've stated this before, but it bears repeating. The voting statistics don't support the hypothesis that people who have an entry vote differently than people who don't. There may very well be a small difference, but evidence for it is swamped by the normal, expected differences in voting style.
01/07/2007 03:56:30 PM · #35
I've noticed that I quite often get lower votes from "No camera - Vote Only" voters ...
01/07/2007 04:33:07 PM · #36
Originally posted by kirbic:
... The voting statistics don't support the hypothesis that people who have an entry vote differently than people who don't. There may very well be a small difference, but evidence for it is swamped by the normal, expected differences in voting style.


...and since this seems to be the most realistic data, I wanna continue to vote all challenges, all the time.
 01/07/2007 04:37:12 PM · #37
Originally posted by kirbic:
Heck, if I couldn't vote in challenges I enter, I'd never be able to enter. Literally.


That doesn't make sense, unless you make it a point to vote in each and every challenge, which I think many of us don't. If that's what you do, wow, that's dedication!

But, I agree, there should be no rules on which challenge a person can or can't vote.

ADDED:

Checking up on kirbic, he's cast 109,423, entered 52 challenges. Total number of challenge entries to date is 127,293. So, 127,293 - (109,423 + 52) = 17,818, which is probably not much more than the number of challenge entries up to when you signed up, so you must vote pretty much all the time on all entries. YOU DESERVE AN AWARD!

Message edited by author 2007-01-07 16:42:22.
 01/07/2007 04:42:50 PM · #38
It is a matter of personal belief, if you think you can vote in an unbaised manner, even tho your entry is bombing in that challenge, then you should vote.

Personally, I don't give a damn what my entry is doing, I look at the purtty pictures and vote for the ones I like. I never part vote, if I start voting on a challenge, I do the lot.

Being a bottom feeder means I am under no pressure, and can vote fairly on what I like, and that is the important fact, I vote on what strikes me as meeting the challenge and looking good. Simple, yes...stupid, No!

01/07/2007 04:47:33 PM · #39
Originally posted by sodoff:
...I don't give a damn what my entry is doing, I look at the purtty pictures and vote for the ones I like. I never part vote, if I start voting on a challenge, I do the lot.

Being a bottom feeder means I am under no pressure, and can vote fairly on what I like, and that is the important fact, I vote on what strikes me as meeting the challenge and looking good. Simple, yes...stupid, No!


Me, too!
 01/07/2007 06:01:11 PM · #40
If someone has a photo that is not doing well and they want to take it out on the other entries... it would stand to reason they would vote all photos lower which doesn't do anything to the ranking of the photos.

besides, the site admin do a great job catching screwy voters

not to mention, you'd have to have a large percentage of the 100 or more votes in a challenge being deviant to skew the results anyhow

and if we suddenly made drastic changes to the voting system now, it wouldn't be comparable to all the previous challenges
 01/07/2007 06:02:00 PM · #41
I dont usually vote on the comp Im in
 01/07/2007 06:06:36 PM · #42
hmm... I usually only vote in the challenges I enter, seems I'm more sympathetic in that I know how hard it was to shoot for, whereas, one I wasn't in, I tend to vote harder as I'm biased toward the good shots instead of toward my own experience..
 01/07/2007 06:48:05 PM · #43
Originally posted by amandalore:
hmm... I usually only vote in the challenges I enter, seems I'm more sympathetic in that I know how hard it was to shoot for, whereas, one I wasn't in, I tend to vote harder as I'm biased toward the good shots instead of toward my own experience..


I agree and disagree with it. I tend to only vote in challenges I've entered (not always true), but I don't think the experience enters into it for me. I'm voting on the result that was achieved, not what they went through to get there.
 01/07/2007 09:08:13 PM · #44
I say we hire the judges from American Idol .... :p
 01/07/2007 09:26:00 PM · #45
I would think the average score on DPC would drop if voting was limited to only those challenges not entered. After all, if a person is not interested in the challenge topic (they didn't enter after all), they are not as likely to be impressed by the entries.

In addition, the purpose of the challenge topics are to get people to try new things ... to think in ways they would not on their own. If only those who did not enter (that is, not 'thunk' in a new way) voted on the challenges, the quality of the votes would diminish as the knowledge of the voters would just not be there.

The only change to voting I can see benefitting the site would be to remove the running total of statistics during voting. No one knows how they are doing until all scores are in.

David
 01/07/2007 09:29:28 PM · #46
Originally posted by David.C:
....

In addition, the purpose of the challenge topics are to get people to try new things ... to think in ways they would not on their own. If only those who did not enter (that is, not 'thunk' in a new way) voted on the challenges, the quality of the votes would diminish as the knowledge of the voters would just not be there.

....

David


That's an interesting way to look at it. I'd never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.
 01/07/2007 10:01:18 PM · #47
Originally posted by David.C:
The only change to voting I can see benefitting the site would be to remove the running total of statistics during voting. No one knows how they are doing until all scores are in.

It's a good idea: hide the score, keep showing everything else.
This might lead to great surprises when it rolls over (both pleasant and not so).
01/08/2007 02:33:34 AM · #48
I think, unfortunately, a troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.... If someone was going to vote low on other entries because they weren't doing as well as they think they should, that would make them change to a system of always voting low or, at the least skewed (I'm not sure how closely voting habits are monitored).

I'm still pretty new here (in my second challenge - how nerve wracking!), but one of the biggest things that got me to hang around and decide to participate is the spirit that everything is done in. There's no cash, no prizes except a collection of colored pixels and a period of time in the spotlight. There's no reason for widespread cheating and conniving and doing of the bad things. All we can do is get warm fuzzies and brag about our ePeens.

And there aren't any requirements! I know that every single view I got was from someone who wanted to see my picture. How cool is that? I'd hate to think that people were being forced to look at it...

That's nice. I think further requirements would start to break down the spirit of the site and you guys are perfect just the way you are.

-- C, ES

P.S. Can you imagine all the freaking out if people couldn't see how they were doing!? IF this was implemented (and it doesn't sound like it would be), there would HAVE to be a more limited time period on it. Like, 2 days or something.

Message edited by author 2007-01-08 02:34:27.
 01/08/2007 03:02:31 AM · #49
Originally posted by silverscreen:
As others have stated: There wouldn't be anybody left to vote if we couldn't vote in a challenge we entered ourselves.


You say that as if you know it's true. That's just speculation on your part. Personally, I vote on challenges I don't enter all the time as well as ones I do enter. I'd say it's about a 50/50 split for me.

Message edited by author 2007-01-08 03:02:48.
 01/08/2007 03:02:51 AM · #50
i only vote on my own entries
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