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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/01/2007 12:27:08 AM · #2

8 votes, 6.13...

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

01/01/2007 12:27:53 AM · #3

A handful of very nice entries, and a sleigh full of crap. Ho Ho Ho.

griz210

Nikon D300s

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

01/01/2007 12:29:37 AM · #4

Originally posted by routerguy666:

A handful of very nice entries, and a sleigh full of crap. Ho Ho Ho.

yep and mines in that sleigh
Votes: 12
Views: 13
Avg Vote: 5.0833
Comments: 1
and droping

asimchoudhri

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

01/01/2007 12:30:36 AM · #5

Originally posted by asimchoudhri:

8 votes, 6.13...

13 votes, 5.62 :-(
(it was fun while it lasted)

timfythetoo

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

01/01/2007 12:32:02 AM · #6

Votes: 15
Views: 23
Avg Vote: 6.8667
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Happy New Year!

Jaded_Housewife

Canon EOS-5D

01/01/2007 12:35:20 AM · #7

5.9
one comment

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

01/01/2007 09:03:43 AM · #8

Votes: 59
Views: 83
Avg Vote: 4.8814
Comments: 6
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 01/01/07 08:58 am

Bring on those DNMC comments.....

timfythetoo

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

01/01/2007 09:05:46 AM · #9

Votes: 58
Views: 88
Avg Vote: 6.0172
Comments: 8

Saw a couple Merry Christmas 1s and 2s come through. And on top of that I have to once again watch Aimees score be higher than mine. Blahhh!!! ;)

KarenNfld

01/01/2007 09:06:40 AM · #10

Oh come on!!! A DNMC comment because I only have one of the "things" and not 6, 7, 8 or 9 of them. Sheesh!!!!

Votes: 57
Views: 68
Avg Vote: 5.1404
Comments: 5

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

01/01/2007 07:20:20 PM · #11

This is not good! :(

Jaded_Housewife

Canon EOS-5D

01/01/2007 07:24:50 PM · #12

5.77

eh :/

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/01/2007 07:41:29 PM · #13

12 Days Of Christmas
Votes: 81
Views: 120
Avg Vote: 4.8519
Comments: 8
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 01/01/07 07:24 pm

As anticipated, 4 DNMC comments so far. There are three things in this world you can count on: death, taxes, and the literal-mindedness of DPC voters.

Beetle

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/01/2007 08:09:41 PM · #14

No point biting MY nose off, since none of those DNMC comments are mine, however.......

Is it really THAT unreasonable to reward people who have gone to the effort to actually provide what was asked of them, versus the opportunist with the "that'll do" attitude?

This challenge was very tricky - after all, how often do you actually SEE many of the things mentioned in that song, let alone the specified NUMBER of them?

Just because you didn't bother to work hard enough to meet the challenge, doesn't mean you have to attack the people who think you should have!

(This was aimed at no-one in particular, but if the shoe fits, feel free to wear it)

aimeethetoo

Canon EOS-30D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

01/01/2007 08:45:08 PM · #15

Originally posted by timfythetoo:

And on top of that I have to once again watch Aimees score be higher than mine. Blahhh!!! ;)

Yes but barely! Awful lot of grumpy voters out there for this one IMO.

Ken

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/01/2007 08:54:26 PM · #16

Originally posted by Beetle:

Well said. Also, those that leave the DNMC comments are actually taking the time to comment and tell you why they left a low score. I have a bit of voting to do yet and will comment later, but expect to leave a lot of DNMC myself. It's a challenge to a theme and it has to be at least a bit close to the theme to avoid DNMC.

01/01/2007 08:56:42 PM · #17

Originally posted by Beetle:

Who bit somebody's nose off? I made an observation.

Is it really THAT unreasonable to assume that someone could have a different though equally valid take on a challenge from yourself?

This challenge was very tricky - after all, it could be approached on two very different levels as mentioned in the thread discussing it leading up to the voting.

Just because you do not "get" a photo does not mean the photographer was too lazy to bother meeting the challenge. Perhaps when you come across something that doesn't seem to fit you should stop to examine your own preconceived notions of the nature of the challenge. If you still don't think it fits, feel free to vote the photo down, but there is no need to denigrate the photographer's character or their intent in entering the shot.

(This was a reply to Beetle's post, though not necessarily directed towards her. It is in no way meant to be inflammatory.)

Message edited by author 2007-01-01 21:00:36.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/01/2007 09:26:52 PM · #18

Originally posted by mad_brewer:

Originally posted by Beetle:

Also, those that leave the DNMC comments are actually taking the time to comment and tell you why they left a low score.

Yes, those that leave DNMC comments are appreciated as long as they stay civil. If you get DNMC comments when you're not expecting to, then, obviously, there is a problem. If you are expecting some, the number of DNMC comments can help when looking at the voting curve to get a better idea of how the picture was received by those who did "get" it.

Message edited by author 2007-01-01 21:29:51.

Beetle

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/01/2007 09:35:26 PM · #19

Originally posted by EricMGB1974:

...by those who did "get" it.

If I disagree with you (because in my opinion finding all NINE of them was the challenging part), then that means I "don't get it"???

annependleton

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

01/01/2007 09:37:45 PM · #20

DNMC comments are fine. My problem is that, based on the above comments on why people were receiving DNMC comments, I feel people are taking this challenge more literal than usual with no leeway for creativity or other interpretations or creativity.

noraneko

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/01/2007 09:45:41 PM · #21

I think some entries had great humorous takes even though they didn't meet the challenge in a strictly literal sense. I bumped those who made the effort to find all seven swans, for example, but also bumped creative photos if they were technically and artistically meritous - but a little, er, out-of-the-box. It was a challenge just begging for some humor. Helps to keep things not-too-heavy here.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/01/2007 10:11:29 PM · #22

Originally posted by Beetle:

So let's say the song calls for 9 ladies dancing.
You see ONE dancer and take a nice photo of her. You figure there is a good enough connection - after all there IS a dancer, and the missing 8 shouldn't matter.
Originally posted by EricMGB1974:
...by those who did "get" it.

If I disagree with you (because in my opinion finding all NINE of them was the challenging part), then that means I "don't get it"???

No. In fact, in the case you mention I would tend to agree with you. As I said, this wasn't necessarily aimed at you because I don't know how you are voting, nor do you know what my photo is. If you read this thread from prior to the challenge voting the issue I'm referring to is briefly addressed in it, //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=515957. Again, I'm honestly not trying to be inflammatory here, but I also don't want to speak in more concrete terms to avoid revealing my entry. However, if you'd like to discuss this further I'd be happy to do so via PM.

Beetle

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/01/2007 10:23:11 PM · #23

Originally posted by EricMGB1974:

However, if you'd like to discuss this further I'd be happy to do so via PM.

Thanks, but no thanks (said in the nicest possible way).

It is just the old argument of topic vs "artistic", and we'd only end up going in the same old circles.

I so often make myself stay out of these discussions, but every now and then this gets to me - especially the part that we supposedly don't "get it" just because we feel the topic is important.

Far too often it is just a convenient excuse - calling it artistic licence because the proper interpretation is more difficult to achieve, then getting mad at others who don't agree.
I am very conscious of, and willing to allow, other interpretations but I refuse to totally ignore the topic we were given.

(By they way, in this challenge I haven't handed out a single 1, 2, or 3, and only very few 4s).

Rebecca

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5- 5.6G ED DX

01/01/2007 10:48:40 PM · #24

Personally, I don't feel like there was a whole lot of room to stray from the literal on this challenge. The song is very pointedly specific about the numbers, so I don't blame folks for feeling like a photo with an incorrect quantity of subject is a shoehorn. You can't fudge ten lords a'leaping - there must be ten or it is no longer part of the song. The entries that get the numbers right have a very clear edge, especially in a literal-minded community like DPC, and that should have been obvious to everyone even before entering.

Most challenges allow for a lot more interpretation than this one. The key for 12 Days of Christmas lies not in the interpretation, but in the technical strength and creativity of composition within a set of very specific constraints. It's a very narrow, very difficult subject. That's why the number of entries is so low, and that's why everyone who did enter is getting pummeled harder than usual.