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12/09/2006 07:02:45 PM · #1
I just purchased a new monitor and i'm having trouble getting the thing calibrated. I think it is ok right now but when i look at my portfolio images they don't look right, or like i remember them with my other monitor.

So now that I have my new monitor set to what I think looks good I re-edited a previous challenge entry and uploaded it. I'd like to see what others think. They look different on my new monitor but I don't know which is better.

I may have processed them slightly different each time but each time I made them look best on the monitor I was using. Give attention to primarly calibration issues; contrast, brightness, gamma

So which one looks more right to you on YOUR monitor?

re-edit with new monitor:
436451.jpg

original entry/edit:
419339.jpg


12/09/2006 07:10:53 PM · #2
Slightly more contrast on the re-edit. Skin tone looks better on the original unless she wipes on a tan. Orangeish in the new shot.

edit: I guess neither one looks 'right', they just look different. The additional contrast is nice, the color shift less so.

Message edited by author 2006-12-09 19:11:35.
12/09/2006 07:10:56 PM · #3
re-edit looks better to me...original looks a touch too light
12/09/2006 07:13:30 PM · #4
The re-edit is definitely better, but I find myself wanting to see a compromise between the two.
12/09/2006 07:18:13 PM · #5
mmmmm....


12/09/2006 07:20:23 PM · #6
Can't really decided. On the re-edit the higher contrast makes the blown highlights stand out more. I'd agree with Leroy in that something in between would work better.
12/09/2006 07:21:15 PM · #7
if the original isn't as good then possibly my old monitor has been screwing with all my previous editing.

My old crt has been getting darker and darker and I must have been compensating in my editing by lightening.

would someone mind looking at other entry shots in my portfolio and see if this a recurring problem.

Message edited by author 2006-12-09 19:25:10.
12/09/2006 07:35:55 PM · #8
I think I like the re-edit slightly better, but agree that there's probably an even better version hiding somewhere between the two.

There's some excellent stuff in your portfolio (in particular "nevaeh-on-patio") and no obvious calibration problems, at least not as seen on my aging-but-calibrated PowerBook screen.
12/09/2006 07:38:25 PM · #9
Originally posted by magnus:

I think I like the re-edit slightly better, but agree that there's probably an even better version hiding somewhere between the two.

There's some excellent stuff in your portfolio (in particular "nevaeh-on-patio") and no obvious calibration problems, at least not as seen on my aging-but-calibrated PowerBook screen.


thanks, I think I still have some calibration problems with my new one though.

Do you or anyone else know what I can do to get this right?
12/09/2006 07:42:21 PM · #10
I use the Spyder hardware calibrator and just follow the instructions. Before that I used to use the software calibrator built into the MacOS, but didn't find the results very consistent.
12/09/2006 07:50:32 PM · #11
Originally posted by magnus:

I use the Spyder hardware calibrator and just follow the instructions. Before that I used to use the software calibrator built into the MacOS, but didn't find the results very consistent.


i wish i could afford a spyder.....
12/09/2006 08:06:15 PM · #12
I agree about finding something in between.
The re-edit seems a tad overly saturated and or too high of contrast, and a lot of shadow detail lost. The original Bad hair day has very real skin tones.
12/09/2006 08:27:29 PM · #13
I would choose the re-edit if I had to pick one. The re-edit looks better everywhere but in her face. The original looks washed out but the face tones are better.
12/09/2006 08:43:51 PM · #14
The original is much much better. The re-edit is darker which doesn't bother me but it's also very much warmer. Too much red.
12/09/2006 08:53:27 PM · #15
The re-edit looks more orangey to me, a little too much perhaps?

I just calibrated my monitor yesterday also, and for the first time. (Huey Pantone)

I'm still not sure if the colours look right, at times it looks a bit washed out. Do the Monitor settings work better if they are at 6500 K setting?

So I can relate to how you are feeling there.

Message edited by author 2006-12-09 20:53:43.
12/09/2006 09:01:13 PM · #16
Originally posted by heatherd:

Do the Monitor settings work better if they are at 6500 K setting?



I don't know. On that setting I'm having a hard time getting anything to appear normal. Everything looks low-contrast and dim.

12/09/2006 09:02:47 PM · #17
Originally posted by TJinGuy:

I would choose the re-edit if I had to pick one. The re-edit looks better everywhere but in her face. The original looks washed out but the face tones are better.


I may have altered the color, not sure, but the washed out look is what I'm struggling with.

What about this one, it looks very washed out to me now. 421187.jpg

Message edited by author 2006-12-09 21:06:27.
12/09/2006 09:12:43 PM · #18
I like re-edit best too
12/09/2006 10:13:36 PM · #19
On "Huh", it looks very good to me. The skin tones are good. The eyes look good and the lips look natural. The backdrop may be a little washed out but the girl looks very good. I guess that overall it looks like a very natural photo.
12/09/2006 11:36:02 PM · #20
Uh oh - I just got a new monitor and your original looks waay better to me...voter-monitor-calibration is a big factor in scores, methinks.
12/10/2006 01:20:36 AM · #21
The first wind shot below does look a little washed out, while the re-edit looks just about right for me (maybe just a touch dark).

On all the pages for challenge images being voted on, there is the scale of shades from black to white.

white_to_black.gif

Can you differentiate between all 29 separate shades on your new monitor?

Message edited by author 2006-12-10 01:27:11.
12/10/2006 01:35:20 AM · #22
Originally posted by alien2thisworld:

The first wind shot below does look a little washed out, while the re-edit looks just about right for me (maybe just a touch dark).

On all the pages for challenge images being voted on, there is the scale of shades from black to white.

white_to_black.gif

Can you differentiate between all 29 separate shades on your new monitor?


yes i can, but does that mean everything's ok, because my portfolio looks washed out still.
12/10/2006 02:37:26 AM · #23
Ah, that's good. It atleast means that your new monitor brightness setting is good. I went through a similar event as you. I had an old CRT that I didn't realize was darkening as it died. I found that photos edited to look right on the dark CRT were washed out on correctly calibrated monitors. Unfortunately some of the shots had already been submitted to challenges. It was frustrating, so now I check my calibration every few weeks to avoid a repeat.

Message edited by author 2006-12-10 02:39:35.
12/10/2006 04:26:34 AM · #24
I'm wondering if my monitor is on it's last legs..I can't differentiate between the last few shades of black, after calibration.

12/10/2006 04:41:33 AM · #25
Originally posted by heatherd:

I'm wondering if my monitor is on it's last legs..I can't differentiate between the last few shades of black, after calibration.


Copy the image and put it on a black background. If you can distinguish between the darker squares then you may want to recalibrate your monitor.

EDIT: That should have been... If you can't distinguish..

Message edited by author 2006-12-10 16:17:01.
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