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11/29/2006 06:06:03 PM · #1
At present I have an EOS 5D and I love it, I really do. some where along the line I am thinking about taking on board the 1Ds Mark 11 but first I would like to bounce a Few ideas around, about how much better is it than the 5D.
Ihave done a little research on it, and I know it comes with a hefty price Tag, and more pixels.
But the bottom line is. How much better pound for pound is it !

please let me know your thoughts.

Cheers.

Joe
11/29/2006 06:10:21 PM · #2
which features of the 5D aren't cutting it for you? Or, what additional features would most interest you?
11/29/2006 06:11:35 PM · #3
pound for pound it's a lot heavier for a start ;) That's my only gripe about my 1DII. The weight, the size etc.

I shot last weekend with my D60 and was amazed at how much smaller and more subtle it feels. You get used to the weight and 'big camera' reaction people give the 1D bodies, but it changes how you use them a bit (and how people react to them too)

The buttons/ interface is also very different - I think the 5D has the consumer SLR interface as well. I've personally come to like the multiple press setup of the 1D - fewer accidental changes - more deliberate.

It depends what sort of environment you put the camera into and how you treat it. I have several deep gouges in my 1D body that I think would have probably smashed a more cheaply constructed body. Adding a ridiculously heavy and large RRS L-bracket probably also helps.

The ridiculously long battery life is also a big plus, compared to the small batteries in the other bodies (a BG511 is 1oz, a 1D battery is 10oz) Again - not sure if the 5D vs 1Ds is the same situation, but I wouldn't be surprised. Being able to shoot for a week on a single charge is quite freeing.

Message edited by author 2006-11-29 18:14:04.
11/29/2006 06:16:03 PM · #4
I would never excange mine for a 1Ds mkII unless I REALLY needed weather sealing or if I were Bill Gates and just had 5000-8000$ burning a hole in my pocket.

Image quality is as good or even better on the 5D vs. the 1Ds mkII except for megapixel count and that is what is most important to me.

Message edited by author 2006-11-29 18:17:21.
11/29/2006 07:29:00 PM · #5
Big difference in frames per second. 5D is only 3fps.
11/29/2006 07:31:50 PM · #6
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Big difference in frames per second. 5D is only 3fps.


Not really... 1Ds mkII is 4fps.
11/29/2006 07:54:00 PM · #7
Originally posted by Larus:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Big difference in frames per second. 5D is only 3fps.


Not really... 1Ds mkII is 4fps.


Mix up with 1D Mk II / Mk II N. Oops.

Message edited by author 2006-11-29 19:55:50.
11/29/2006 07:59:47 PM · #8
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Larus:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Big difference in frames per second. 5D is only 3fps.


Not really... 1Ds mkII is 4fps.


Mix up with 1D Mk II / Mk II N. Oops.


Hehe, I figured, just thought I´d be a bastard about it :)
11/30/2006 09:50:03 AM · #9
If build quality is your #1 concern, then the 1-Series is hard to compete with. However, you could get 2 5D's for less than the cost of a 1DSmkII. If weather sealing is a must, then there's less to think about. You can get the 1DmkII/n or the 1DSmkII and both of these have weather sealing if you use them with the right lenses. The resolution difference I feel isn't really all that much, sure it's there, but at almost 13mp, the 5D is certainly one of the best around as it is.

For your equestrian events and weddings, you might think that the 45point AF system is to die for, but most of the time I don't use all that many focus points besides the center one. It can be useful, but most of the time, it's not a big deal.

All in all, the 5D is more than enough camera for most situations, and I can't tell you if you really need the upgrade, but I hope that some of this helps.
11/30/2006 10:07:26 AM · #10
The battery life of the 1DmkII is great. The 5D and 1DmkII serve two different areas of photography. If you fall in the landscape/wide angle, slower paced area then I would just stay with the 5D.

Message edited by author 2006-11-30 10:07:49.
11/30/2006 10:10:59 AM · #11
I sometimes use the 1Ds MKII at weddings as the principle photographer owns one.. Personally I prefer my 5D over it. There is really nothing that the 1D has that I want on my 5D, in fact, the only feature I currently want is sensor cleaning like the 400D. The 1D is a big old hunk of metal and circuitry to drag around all day. I do like the portrait orientation button, but just got myself a battery grip for my 5D so thats one problem solved.

Unless there really really really is a must have feature on the 1Ds MKii that you need, then stick with the 5D.
11/30/2006 10:12:51 AM · #12
The 5D shows less noise and has a wider contrast range than the 1DS MkII.
11/30/2006 10:37:43 AM · #13
Surely this (coming) year will see replacements for both models. If you've got a camera now that you're mostly happy with, I'd sit with it until Q3 next year.
11/30/2006 10:52:31 AM · #14
Right now the 5D and 1DsII don't seem to have much to really distinguish themselves from each other, other than price and build.

Performance-wise the 1DII is way ahead of any other canon bodies, but doesn't have the resolution of the 5D/1DsII

It seems likely that sometime soon Canon will finally manage to marry the features of the 1DsII (basically sensor size/build) and the performance of the 1DII (fps, AF performance)

Once that's done there will be a much clearer demarcation again between the 1 series & the cameras like the 5D/30D

It seems to be a sort of weird stop-gap situation right now, caused by the size/ cost/ performance of full frame sensors. What may well happen is the 5D will get leap-frogged by a 1DsIII & 1DIII

I don't have any great insight into when that recombination of sports & landscape/portrait pro-bodies will occur, but it must be something Canon are aiming for.
11/30/2006 10:55:08 AM · #15
Originally posted by Gordon:

....I don't have any great insight into when that recombination of sports & landscape/portrait pro-bodies will occur, but it must be something Canon are aiming for.


Full frame, 12 fps, in-camera cropping a-la-Nikon D2X :D
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