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05/10/2002 05:54:02 AM · #76
question for you unix box people. do any unix machines have usb ports? or do you have to dump your pics on a PC or mac and then transfer them to your sun or sgi or whatever it is your using?

interested. . .


Originally posted by rjhawkin:
[i]Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Who broke that photo down to that level to find that something was wrong with it? It was so well done I really wonder who caught the problem.. :) Someone has too much time on their hands :)


Im not the person who did it.
Its not even terribly hard to go though and check the pictures for this. All you need is a unix box, a program called XV, and access to the pictures. There is a feature of xv that scrambles the color table randomly, -random I believe is the option. So a simple little script that does the equivilent of find picture in directory load it with the random option and open it in a window. Once you have the picture up you can click random a couple more times if your unsure.

Im sure similar stuff can be done in photoshop if you create your own plugin/macro. It is easy to see when a picture has been gimicked. It takes no more time than looking at the pictures.

(typo correction[/i]

05/10/2002 12:45:22 PM · #77
About the dead cow picture: it wasn't my choice of photo art, ethical statement, or "appetizing" ad. But I did have the option of just not re-viewing many times over. Same as "Rubber Baby Duckie-Chuckers" or whatever that was called! I have the option of ignoring it.

Which is what I should have done before sounding off so vehemently about another entry this week.

I should have remembered what my Dad told many times (and many years ago!) "If you can't say anything good about somebody, don't say anything at all!"

I will try to be more positive in the future. Especially about how Drew and Langdon are doing with this site. IT IS AWESOME!

05/10/2002 12:48:32 PM · #78
Oh! No it wasn't me who "broke down" that picture, either. "I'm innocent, Officer!"

The only thing I break are dishes, occasionally!
05/10/2002 01:18:29 PM · #79
personally i dont like eggs. every time i see an egg i realize that it could have been a little chicken fetus. all it needed was a daddy. in fact, id say its half a chicken fetus being scrambled in pots all over the country. i have no problem with eating a chicken, it's lived its life. why kill the little chicken children? i dont eat straight eggs, nor do i enjoy seeing pictures of them, but i didnt complain.

so we have a basic rule: dont bitch. if you dont like seeing a dead cow to the point of where you are extremely vocal; theres something wrong with you
05/10/2002 01:28:14 PM · #80
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
question for you unix box people. do any unix machines have usb ports? or do you have to dump your pics on a PC or mac and then transfer them to your sun or sgi or whatever it is your using?

In some of the later distrobutions of Linux there are drivers for USB ports, drives, and some cameras. Also, if using Linux as a workstation there is an application called The Gimp which is supposed to be as powerful as Photoshop.



05/10/2002 01:46:27 PM · #81
Originally posted by sandip:
About the dead cow picture: it wasn't my choice of photo art, ethical statement, or "appetizing" ad. But I did have the option of just not re-viewing many times over. Same as "Rubber Baby Duckie-Chuckers" or whatever that was called! I have the option of ignoring it.

Good point Sandip! I guess this, like another thread from last week, just boils down to what I consider the biggest enemy of (any) art--**censorship**. I have always been opposed to this in any medium, since who are we (the public, i.e., not the artist) to crucify someone else's idea? For this reason I have never recommended a picture for DQ, nor have I voted lower than a 3. My reasoning for this is that just because I don't like them doesn't mean that their ideas aren't valid and perhaps even vastly popular--look at [the artist] Picasso and [the band] Creed!;) Point is, I don't envy Drew and Langdon's position on this particular issue. I would hate to have to sit in judgement for the majority of these posts since the opinions range to and from the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum. I do think that with all of this input from everone, we are slowly but surely starting to polish off the edges of an already fabulous site, but that perhaps we should not be quite as nitpicky and quit getting so *riled-up*
over certain issues. Having an animated discussion is fun, blowing your top off is just silly. There seems to be at least one outbreak a week--perhaps, though, this is good to a certain extent because it helps us to get to know one another's ideas better--I know I appreciate everything I am learning. But back to the point, Drew and Langdon are perfectly capable of sorting out the bad-eggs, so maybe we should just let THEM handle it. I do wonder though, if we should just get rid of the dreaded DQ button altogether...?


05/10/2002 02:54:39 PM · #82
Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing the DQ button go away too. I have never used it myself. It seems a little redundant since we can just vote someone low if we think they don't meet the challenge criteria. I would think this could cover anything. I would rather let Drew and Langdon look for DQs because they have a good idea of what to look for. I'd rather assume that the pictures are legal and vote on them accordingly. It's not going to keep me awake at night if I find out I voted highly on a picture that was faked some how. There will always be people that try to get away with cheating and if they do succeed so be it, I hope they are proud of themselves. I don't feel like putting any energy into being a photo policeman.

Tim
05/10/2002 02:55:29 PM · #83
excuse me, but I happen to be the drummer of Creed ..

just kidding : )

about the weekly blowups, it's kind of interesting in a way to see that all that stuff REALLY MATTERS to some people. It is really impacting their lives. They are walking around and obsessing about the happenings on this site. That's a tremendous testament to the site makers, as well as to the people who make this an interesting place to be. I am obsessing too, to some degree. I like to check my photo's status, and read and answer forums, but if something is happening here, it isn't going to get me to freak out. well, i take that back. when i submitted one of the first pictures, and someone was going thru saying it didnt have a mirror and an outstretched arm, i got pretty riled, and emailed that person to tell them they should read more carefully. But I've since become desensitized, because I realize I can take what gives me something frmo here, and leave the rest behind. . .

Now if only I could do that at work .. : )

CLAY: my wife is a vegetarian, yet she eats eggs. The reason I don't point out the flaw in her logic is because the way I see it, if I can get her to get all her nutrition, I'll keep my mouth shut, hehe

CHARIOT: Thanks for the info. But basically we're talking linux, and no other non intel variants of unix?
05/10/2002 03:43:09 PM · #84
Originally posted by timj351:
Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing the DQ button go away too. I have never used it myself. It seems a little redundant since we can just vote someone low if we think they don't meet the challenge criteria. I would think this could cover anything. I would rather let Drew and Langdon look for DQs because they have a good idea of what to look for. I'd rather assume that the pictures are legal and vote on them accordingly.

I've never DQ'ed an image, and I don't know what to look for either. Drew and Langdon have said that they don't look at an image until it gets at least two votes for DQ. I also assume that a photo is legal when voting, because I count on people who do know to spot the cheaters.
05/10/2002 04:08:54 PM · #85
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
excuse me, but I happen to be the drummer of Creed ..

just kidding : )



aieee! sorry!:) but that is just my point--just because i don't care for them doesn't mean they don't rock (to someone!), and picassos' sell for millions. public censorship is bad 'cause someone, somewhere probably likes something you don't!;)


05/10/2002 06:55:21 PM · #86
I have voted lower than a 3 on stuff although I have thought about the same things amitchell mentions about artistic vision, etc.. But my vote is just my opinion (all 1/200th of a percent) and so I am not going to restrict myself to an arbitrary low...!

1/200th of a persent! That's lower than 2 cents and I thought we were guaranteed to at least be able to give our 2 cents...Maybe its the economy!!!

BTW....DQ button gotta go IMO. If someone has that big of a hissy over a photo then let them write a letter at least. The artist deserves at least that much over a stinking button ;-)

* This message has been edited by the author on 5/10/2002 6:56:06 PM.
05/10/2002 07:20:35 PM · #87
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
CHARIOT: Thanks for the info. But basically we're talking linux, and no other non intel variants of unix?

That's correct. Actually Linux will run on many operating systems. But I think you talking about whatever is on those CGI machines. Those I don't know.
05/10/2002 08:05:19 PM · #88
didn't a loaf of bread in post WWII Germany cost like 200,000 marks or something?? : P Get your DotCom Dollars here!!

I've never hit the DQ button, or if I did I can't remember, but it probably takes you to a screen where you write your reason, out, right? I mean it's not like a dunk tank button that just drops you out the bottom of the web site. Is it?!?!?!

Originally posted by hokie:
I have voted lower than a 3 on stuff although I have thought about the same things amitchell mentions about artistic vision, etc.. But my vote is just my opinion (all 1/200th of a percent) and so I am not going to restrict myself to an arbitrary low...!

1/200th of a persent! That's lower than 2 cents and I thought we were guaranteed to at least be able to give our 2 cents...Maybe its the economy!!!

BTW....DQ button gotta go IMO. If someone has that big of a hissy over a photo then let them write a letter at least. The artist deserves at least that much over a stinking button ;-



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