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10/20/2003 02:26:10 PM · #1

playing with the new camera
this rose survived the 1st heavy frost - and had a magnificent smell

thought about using it for all alone, but opted not too.

tripod - manual settings on camera.
any thoughts appreciated

thanks,
soup

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/20/2003 07:02:08 PM · #2

hmmm

wewillexplore

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

10/20/2003 07:25:52 PM · #3

I don't like the DoF/blur on the left side of the petals. IMHO, a macro of this flower should show detail and I think the detail is lacking.

but whadda i know?

M

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

10/20/2003 07:55:29 PM · #4

solitude is what i was after.

and yes the focus could be a bit wider
its a 1/6 sec exposure
for this one i actually didnt use the tripod
despite the image details - some of the other versions i did use it.
was leaning on the table for this version

thanks for the comment
soup

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

10/20/2003 07:59:51 PM · #5

Why did you choose to desaturate the rose color?

LucidLotus

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

10/20/2003 08:03:32 PM · #6

hm. The picture speaks of the decay of life to me rather than solitude. Mostly because there is color in the image but not where one would expect to see it - so it looks as if the color, or 'life', has been leeched out of the flower. A shell of its former self, a faded view of what it *could* be.

But then I have been accused of being overly dramatic at times, so maybe I'm on crack. ;)

I tend to see things that aren't what the photographer was going for, is that good or bad?

I agree with the comment left about the background too, by the by.

10/20/2003 08:04:32 PM · #7

lost relationship
lost love done
alone now they are gone...
say remembering a rose from them.

soup

10/20/2003 11:15:31 PM · #8

yes shot on a pool table

i thought the green would add to it
the only color gives life to the loss

soup

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

10/21/2003 12:07:47 AM · #9

How about this version...

Changed the green to red... as if the color of the rose bled out.
Slightly cropped the sides.
Added lots of negative space above the flower to give a stronger sense of emptiness and solitude.

Just an idea.

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

10/21/2003 12:12:04 AM · #10

Wow, bamaster...I really like that! Great shot, soup!

tfaust

Canon EOS 80D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

10/21/2003 09:24:20 AM · #11

Originally posted by bamaster:

How about this version...

Wow I like that - I like the idea of the color bleeding out, I like the negative space and the tight cropping on the sides...

This gives a feeling of emptiness, love lost, sadness.

Nice work soup and bamaster!

10/21/2003 10:32:08 AM · #12

Originally posted by bamaster:

How about this version...

nicely done, but outside what would have been allowed in a challenge
i think.

appreciate all the input.

soup

10/21/2003 11:00:03 AM · #13

Originally posted by soup:

Originally posted by bamaster:
How about this version...

nicely done, but outside what would have been allowed in a challenge
i think.

appreciate all the input.

soup

Desaturating the rose by itself is not allowed either (or Channels manipulation).
But you should be able to create that photo in the camera with the right lighting, especially with your camera.

10/21/2003 01:38:12 PM · #14

i think desaturation is legit here...
using the hue/saturation, and choosing a specific color if you like.

soup

10/21/2003 03:29:26 PM · #15

Originally posted by soup:

i think desaturation is legit here...
using the hue/saturation, and choosing a specific color if you like.

soup

Hmm... I've been wrong before, but I think tht is considered spot editing. The desaturation isn't done to the entire photo, just a selected color range, which IMHO is spot editing.

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

10/21/2003 05:37:22 PM · #16

i have read that changing colors of pixels -w/o moving pixels is legit.
and the image/adjust edits for the most part would fit that guideline

and the desaturation of a specific color still is applied to the whole image - however if the main subject contains a color unique to itself
applying the adjustment to the whole image would only minimally effect the rest fo the image...

i like what you did - no offense meant...

soup

GinaRothfels

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

10/21/2003 07:13:24 PM · #17

The desaturation is definitely legal for challenges and has been used many times. Technically you could probably get away with adding the negative space too as it might pass as a border. But reshooting with extra negative space and then making the other changes is certainly acceptable.

I really like this a lot.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

10/24/2003 02:51:04 PM · #18

Originally posted by Gina Rothfels:

Desaturating a photo is allowed, of course. The reason is that it is applied to the whole image... all the pixels are effected. But selecting a color range, then desaturating, seems like selective manipulation where only some pixels are effected. I'm not a rules expert but I thought that was the idea. Maybe someone who is on the committee could chime in?

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

10/24/2003 03:28:06 PM · #19

Originally posted by bamaster:

Originally posted by Gina Rothfels:
The desaturation is definitely legal for challenges and has been used many times. Technically you could probably get away with adding the negative space too as it might pass as a border. But reshooting with extra negative space and then making the other changes is certainly acceptable.

I really like this a lot.

Desaturating a photo is allowed, of course. The reason is that it is applied to the whole image... all the pixels are effected. But selecting a color range, then desaturating, seems like selective manipulation where only some pixels are effected. I'm not a rules expert but I thought that was the idea. Maybe someone who is on the committee could chime in?

Desaturation of a single color is absolutely allowed. It has been done at least once in every challenge since the beginning of DPC, it seems. It is not spot editing, becaues you do not select any part of the photo to do it. You are simply taking out all the red from the entire photo. It is legal, and often effective.

kosmikkreeper

Nikon D300s

10/24/2003 03:30:17 PM · #20

Check THIS out Tony.

:o)