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05/08/2002 06:18:12 AM · #1 |
Are there any photographers from the Vancouver, BC or Seattle area, here??????? Also why are there 962 Photographer Profiles, and 80 submissions???????????
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/8/2002 6:21:05 AM. |
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05/08/2002 06:22:46 AM · #2 |
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05/08/2002 06:30:31 AM · #3 |
| I didn't realize there were that many. My wife and son signed up in the last couple of weeks and they are active. Don't know where all the others are but I'm not sure voting on 962 pictures every week is my idea of a good time. |
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05/08/2002 06:51:51 AM · #4 |
I've learnt by now that you are wasting your own time and everyone elses by just submitting for the sake of having a photo in a challenge.
Many times I haven't had the time to even look at my camera let alone take a photo I like. When I submit something, it's because I want some comments on what I've done wrong (or right), and what I could do to make it better.
The main reason I signed up to this site was to learn how to take a 'photo', and how to make them look different and better. A side effect is that it has my mind thinking about photography every day of the week ... bad for some :)
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05/08/2002 06:56:31 AM · #5 |
962 just represents the people signed up on the site but obviously doens't represent the total active photographers at any given time.
I don't care who votes on anything of mine. I have a very specific purpose at this site. To learn how to handle my new Digicam and learn from some other photographers.
I could see though how having a bunch of non-participating, non-interested web surfers coming on the site and dumping on photos can have a negative affect on some new photographers.
Plus, I have Mucho friends in the networking industry with Many ...MANY account accesses.
I could get this vote skewed so far to my liking it would be meaningless. I am talking maybe 200 votes I could influence.
That is a real danger when allowing general public votes which another reason I don't get TOO invested in the voting. I get more into the comments and the forums discussions.
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/8/2002 6:58:07 AM. |
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05/08/2002 07:02:13 AM · #6 |
| how do these responses relate to gtnjiggy's question? |
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05/08/2002 07:04:38 AM · #7 |
I though my response directly answered his question :-P
Anybody can sign up...photographer or not.
That better maggy?..;-)
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/8/2002 7:06:05 AM. |
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05/08/2002 07:11:34 AM · #8 |
doh!
i guess i didnt read his/her whole question. the only part i saw was the vancouver/seattle part. . .
sowwy ...
Originally posted by hokie:
I though my response directly answered his question :-P
Anybody can sign up...photographer or not.
That better maggy?..;-
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05/08/2002 07:22:14 AM · #9 |
I was just curious, because it says photographer profiles, not voter profiles, because there are two ways that you can sign up......Personally, I joined the site to learn, but also see how well I can do when put against others. For example: If you look at my link under my profile you can see what I was going to submit, but the more I thought about it, I figured that everyone else would pretty much have the same idea. Therefore I went with something totally different, and have gotten many compliments on the picture, pretty good ratings, also
the dreaded, " I don't get it." That's why I was asking why more people are not submitting, just to see different things.......To try to figure out things like " Why would this person put this in the challenge," and after a while most of them make sense......... |
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05/08/2002 07:30:55 AM · #10 |
gtnjiggy,
I don't get it. . |
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05/08/2002 07:33:39 AM · #11 |
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05/08/2002 07:42:43 AM · #12 |
Gtnjiggy..great nickname btw :-)
I don't think you HAVE to submit to be listed as a Photographer.
It's an option that is persoanl choice. I would like to see the voting broke down by SUBMITTERS and then just voters.
That means if you submitted this week we would see how the voting went from that group.
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05/08/2002 07:58:32 AM · #13 |
Yeah, I submitted a photo that I knew was less than perfect this time hoping to get some advice on how to correct the problems in the photo. So far I have only gotten a lot of people saying what is wrong in the picture but not any advice on how to correct it. I sort of wonder if maybe they were at a loss just like me on how to use a better technique. Fortunately, I have a friend that looked at the photo and told me how to correct it with a slightly different shooting method. Too bad I didn't talk to him first.
Originally posted by itsaghostcar:
Many times I haven't had the time to even look at my camera let alone take a photo I like. When I submit something, it's because I want some comments on what I've done wrong (or right), and what I could do to make it better.
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05/08/2002 09:50:43 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Plus, I have Mucho friends in the networking industry with Many ...MANY account accesses.
I could get this vote skewed so far to my liking it would be meaningless. I am talking maybe 200 votes I could influence.
Wow! Assuming you mean 200 new voters, that would double the number of people who typically vote on an image now. You could make quite a profit selling votes. ;-)
As for only 80 photos submitted - I'd rather not submit something just so I can say I did. I suspect I'll end up submitting something once or twice a month, although I try to come up with an idea for every challenge, and I usually shoot at least a few test photos.
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05/08/2002 09:59:39 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Amphian:
Wow! Assuming you mean 200 new voters, that would double the number of people who typically vote on an image now. You could make quite a profit selling votes. ;-)
heheh...I have a 3 or 4 friends who have access to network accounts. One is a web designer for an internet service provider. 2 are network admins for companies with many accounts and one is a freak that has about 12 various e-mail accounts for some freaky reason.
My point is that I don't put a lot of stock in random, anonymous internet voting to tell me what I like.
I depend on people stepping out and saying what is on their mind and jumping in the pool with their own talent.
The folks who submit every week and particpate on the forums mean more to me than any vote I see on any photo.
As far as selling votes...Please visit my e-bay site for more info at //howtomakeaquickbuck.com ;-)
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05/08/2002 10:17:38 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by hokie:
My point is that I don't put a lot of stock in random, anonymous internet voting to tell me what I like.
I depend on people stepping out and saying what is on their mind and jumping in the pool with their own talent.
The folks who submit every week and particpate on the forums mean more to me than any vote I see on any photo.
I need to keep this in mind. I submitted my first photo last weekend, and it's been a little nerve-wracking watching my score bounce around. I'm also writing comments for the first time, since I didn't think it was fair to critique other people's work until mine was available for other people to critique. It would thrill me if some of the nice comments I got on my photo are from people who's photos I admire, and I should probably pay more attention to that than my vote total. Still, my photo would look so nice on the main page... ;-)
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05/08/2002 11:35:23 AM · #17 |
I think the nerve wracking part is the critique.
We (meaning the submitters) go out and have some kind of cool idea or see something neat and we proceed to put that idea in image form. We thought it was interesting because we took the time to photograph it.
Whats so weird is how does an image, event, inanimate object, random person or whatever we photgraph turn, in an instant, from being just what they are( an image, event, inanimate object, random person or whatever ) into some kind of reflection of who we are just because we took a photo of it?
That is strange but this was a thesis one of my fellow students used nearly 20 years ago in communication studies to prove photography is art and not just simple image recording. One way of defining art is the personal investment of the artist into the creation. |
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05/08/2002 12:09:37 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Gtnjiggy:
Are there any photographers from the Vancouver, BC or Seattle area, here???????
I'm in the Seattle area, and I know at least 5 others are here as well.
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05/08/2002 12:52:01 PM · #19 |
I'm from the the Seattle area as well. Kent to be more specific. It's pretty beautiful when the weather is nice. Lots of stuff to photograph.
Tim |
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05/08/2002 01:02:54 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Amphian:
Originally posted by hokie:
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As for only 80 photos submitted - I'd rather not submit something just so I can say I did. I suspect I'll end up submitting something once or twice a month, although I try to come up with an idea for every challenge, and I usually shoot at least a few test photos.
I have felt strangely obsessed/driven to meet the challenge each week, and as a result have been taking hundreds of pictures. And as a result of that, I can feel my photo skills and understanding just grow and deepen like gangbusters. It's awesome! I'd have to pay money to take a class like this, but I can do it on the net for free!
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05/08/2002 01:04:39 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Whats so weird is how does an image, event, inanimate object, random person or whatever we photgraph turn, in an instant, from being just what they are( an image, event, inanimate object, random person or whatever ) into some kind of reflection of who we are just because we took a photo of it?
Interesting. I was just having this conversation the other day. It was catalyzed by the following occurring: I took some pics of my wife and ended up using them as my desktop pattern. She walked by once and remarked: "why is is that when I look at 8 pictures of me, all I see is you?"
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05/08/2002 01:32:43 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
I have felt strangely obsessed/driven to meet the challenge each week, and as a result have been taking hundreds of pictures. And as a result of that, I can feel my photo skills and understanding just grow and deepen like gangbusters. It's awesome! I'd have to pay money to take a class like this, but I can do it on the net for free!
Yeah, I think I take about as many pictures a week now as I used to take in a month. (Which is what I used to take in a year when I used film.) My problem is coordinating between my muse, my job, and the rest of my life. This is even better than a class for me, since I can't make the regular time commitment for an ongoing class, and all the weekend classes I have seen are film only.
Originally posted by hokie:
Whats so weird is how does an image, event, inanimate object, random person or whatever we photgraph turn, in an instant, from being just what they are( an image, event, inanimate object, random person or whatever ) into some kind of reflection of who we are just because we took a photo of it?
One of my friends claims that all of my photos have the same mood no matter what I am photographing.
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05/08/2002 02:04:58 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Amphian:
One of my friends claims that all of my photos have the same mood no matter what I am photographing.
I would take that as the highest compliment. It takes years for most folks to develope a style instead of simply copying things they may have liked.
Unless, of course , your photos suck...hehe ;-)
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05/08/2002 02:06:59 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Originally posted by Amphian:
[i]One of my friends claims that all of my photos have the same mood no matter what I am photographing.
I would take that as the highest compliment. It takes years for most folks to develope a style instead of simply copying things they may have liked.
Unless, of course , your photos suck...hehe ;-)
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I resemble that remark... ;)
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05/08/2002 04:10:37 PM · #25 |
| I'm also from Seattle. About 5 blocks from the Space Needle (hence my fascination with it...) |
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