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10/16/2003 11:11:10 AM · #1 |
I'm curious because I think there are some photos that are manipulated, but then again I'm thinking I'm being a bit paranoid because this is just for fun, so, why would anyone want to cheat. So I go back and forth and don't know if I should or shouldn't. It's frustrating. I don't want to feel like an a/r, up tight, non artistic hard a$s. Should I just ignore the kid within that's shouting "that's not fair" and just let it go?
So. How does everyone else handle this? |
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10/16/2003 11:18:09 AM · #2 |
We would prefer if in those cases you just request the DQ. Once you've done that, please vote as if the picture was legal.
The DQ request then gets reviewed and if we feel there is merit, the photographer is contacted to provide proof. |
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10/16/2003 11:30:02 AM · #3 |
If you feel a photograph has violated the site rules, you may click the "Recommend Disqualification for this Picture" link and enter your reason why. You should then vote on the photo as if the rule was not broken, and leave the determination up to the administrators.
The above disclaimer ( or something of the sort ) should be right next to the DQ button on the voting page. This topic comes up every challenge despite being in the rules. Should be an easy fix to add this info next to the DQ button.
Message edited by author 2003-10-16 11:35:44.
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10/16/2003 12:27:02 PM · #4 |
| I don't use the DQ very often at all. Usually I let a comment and hope for a reply as to how something was accomplished. However there was one recently that the photo didn't appear to have been taken during the correct period of time and I did request a DQ stating that the date that appeared in the photo didn't fall into the correct time period. |
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10/16/2003 12:32:08 PM · #5 |
| I don't think asking for a DQ is something one should feel bad about, though I have only done it once or twice. As said pc, this is for fun, so why not follow the rules, money is not at stake here. If the shot is legal, it will not be out of the running. |
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10/16/2003 12:32:39 PM · #6 |
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10/16/2003 12:37:23 PM · #7 |
| If I see something that looks to me like it wasn't within the rules, I hit the DQ. If I'm unsure, I state that in the text I type. I know the photograph won't be DQ'ed unless it actually violated the rules, so it just makes sense to me to do this. That's still not many DQ's, but every now and then something does catch my eye. Then I go ahead and score them as though they are within the rules, as it says to. |
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10/16/2003 02:22:09 PM · #8 |
| Just remember, not meeting the challenge, is NOT a reason to request DQ. It will not be DQed for this reason alone. Seems that some people can't read the red text that is right on the request DQ page. |
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10/16/2003 03:21:10 PM · #9 |
I used it last night on my daughter's first submission because I misunderstood the rules :( It was DQ'd as a result but they did appreciate my honesty, even though my daughter is a little ticked at me for not reading them closer with her. Oh well, there is another open challenge she can work on.
Deannda
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10/16/2003 03:56:21 PM · #10 |
I did once for my first ever challenge. There was a picture of a barn in Vermont. Nice snow covered scene. Problem was it was the first week of August...
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10/16/2003 05:08:44 PM · #11 |
I don't have a problem using the DQ button. I did use it in the last challenge and it appears it was pulled (I can't find it, anyway). I did state in the DQ message that I wasn't positive it was in violation but I listed the things in question.
pcody, don't feel bad for using it. That's what it's there for. And not every image in violation is due to intentional cheating. Some people make honest mistakes - and honest people won't be angry that it's been DQ'd. They'll understand. Besides, it's anonymous.
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10/16/2003 06:42:50 PM · #12 |
I have used it on a number of occasions and I have no problem doing it.
Those who intentionally disobey the rules to get further ahead here have no place here. |
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10/16/2003 06:53:57 PM · #13 |
I request a DQ on every shot in every challenge.
It takes a bit of time to come up with good reasons, but at least, by probability alone, I am likely to reduce the competition in my favour! ; ) |
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10/17/2003 12:08:27 AM · #14 |
| Hypothetically speaking, if you were to see a picture where the moon is just a few days past new and you know that a full moon occured right smack in the middle of the challenge dates, do you file a DQ request? |
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10/17/2003 12:12:23 AM · #15 |
I put in a DQ the picture stayed in the challenge, still wondering how they did it.
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10/17/2003 12:15:28 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Trinch:
Hypothetically speaking, if you were to see a picture where the moon is just a few days past new and you know that a full moon occured right smack in the middle of the challenge dates, do you file a DQ request? |
That's an actual case study, not a hypothetical.
Remember when judging the moon in photos that it will appear differently if photographed from the Southern Hemisphere or through a refracting telescope, than it will to a Northern Hemisphere naked-eye viewer. |
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10/17/2003 12:16:32 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by faidoi:
I put in a DQ the picture stayed in the challenge, still wondering how they did it. |
Write them and ask them to write it up for the "How'd They DO That?" section. |
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10/17/2003 12:16:44 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Trinch:
Hypothetically speaking, if you were to see a picture where the moon is just a few days past new and you know that a full moon occured right smack in the middle of the challenge dates, do you file a DQ request? |
Just remember that, on DPC, there are people from all around the world, though.
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10/17/2003 12:20:40 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Just remember that, on DPC, there are people from all around the world, though. |
The moon doesn't care where in the world you are. A full moon here is a full moon there.
Message edited by author 2003-10-17 00:20:55. |
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10/17/2003 12:27:18 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Trinch:
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Just remember that, on DPC, there are people from all around the world, though. |
The moon doesn't care where in the world you are. A full moon here is a full moon there. |
The confusion would be over the intermediate phases, where you could be off by two weeks if the moon appears in the opposite orientation from what you're used to. |
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10/17/2003 12:32:31 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The confusion would be over the intermediate phases, where you could be off by two weeks if the moon appears in the opposite orientation from what you're used to. |
That's not a problem for me. I can't tell the difference between 1st quarter and 3rd quarter anyway. But I do know a full from a new. ;) |
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10/17/2003 12:37:45 AM · #22 |
| I think a first-quarter moon in San Francisco would resemble a third-quarter moon in Sydney -- you'd have to recognize the lunar landmarks (or background constellations) to distinguish them. |
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10/17/2003 12:42:29 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Trinch:
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Just remember that, on DPC, there are people from all around the world, though. |
The moon doesn't care where in the world you are. A full moon here is a full moon there. |
Good point.
Actually, in my mind, I was thinking about the earlier seasons comment and a previous thread about snow in what would be the US summertime.
Of course, a full moon is a full moon. Otherwise, I'd be a fool, man.
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10/17/2003 09:49:57 AM · #24 |
If you have any doubts about an entry's legality, go ahead and hit the button. Let the experts decide. Their experience will make better judgements than ours, but they need our first-impression, eyeball-instinct button hits to make the system work.
To Neuferland, a big salute for your honesty, tyvm
Message edited by author 2003-10-17 09:52:04. |
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10/17/2003 10:41:22 AM · #25 |
Deannda, that must have been a hard thing to do. But it's good that you are providing such a good example for her.
Thanks to everyone who responded. It helps to know I'm not the only one who has found a questionable photo. Sorry about saying people cheat. I can see how accidents can happen without the photographer realizing he/she was breaking the rules. |
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