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11/06/2006 02:32:04 PM · #51 |
| Microwave ovens are cool! Where else can you get a kilowatt rf source so cheaply? These have many different uses, for example: with some minor modification the magnetron can be used to make a directed energy weapon to zap that super loud car sound system that drives by at 3:00 AM; or perhaps the neighbors cat! I have heard it rumored that they can also be used to jam aircraft radar. A little caution here is advised, the rf energy can destroy human tissue, especially blood producing cells, and (of course) the ever present HV poses it's own set of hazards. A bit more tame is zapping 'poptarts' in an unmodified oven! |
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11/06/2006 03:04:04 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by ElGordo:
Microwave ovens are cool! |
They're also incredibly useful for creating artistic, almost-free drink coasters out of old CD-ROM disks! |
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11/06/2006 03:16:43 PM · #53 |
My bet is the microwaved water was poored on the plant scalding hot, not room temp.
Looks like a job for myth busters.
Message edited by author 2006-11-06 15:20:21. |
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11/06/2006 03:53:03 PM · #54 |
or dpc'ers with entirely too much time on their hands.
I want time lapse photography, proving it.
no post processing whatsoever. |
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11/06/2006 05:47:15 PM · #55 |
Maybe it'd be interesting if they boiled the water in a microwave and then used water boiled in another way as the control ?
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11/06/2006 06:07:24 PM · #56 |
I'd do the experiment, just that I would need two plants, what kind of plants, how long do we microwave the water, how much water, and what do they define as purified water.
Any suggestions as to how to design this experiment? I could probably start it pretty soon depending on when I can go out and get some plants (finals week for school is next week so time is a commodity right now).
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11/06/2006 06:08:24 PM · #57 |
| The plant almost looks like they watered it first then microwaved it to warm it up! |
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11/06/2006 06:12:36 PM · #58 |
You know, screw the control plant. We all know that watering a plant shouldn't kill it dead in 9 days. (Unless you totally overwatered it every day I guess). So just pick a plant, microwave the water, LET IT COOL, and water it as normal. I'll be a monkey's uncle if that plant just keels over like you sprayed Round up on it. I mean for goodness sake, there isn't a single friggin leaf on that plant. Think of the herbicide savings we could have if all we needed to do was microwave our water and to dump it on the weeds...
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11/06/2006 06:16:39 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
You know, screw the control plant. We all know that watering a plant shouldn't kill it dead in 9 days. (Unless you totally overwatered it every day I guess). So just pick a plant, microwave the water, LET IT COOL, and water it as normal. I'll be a monkey's uncle if that plant just keels over like you sprayed Round up on it. I mean for goodness sake, there isn't a single friggin leaf on that plant. Think of the herbicide savings we could have if all we needed to do was microwave our water and to dump it on the weeds... |
Hot water works pretty well at killing weeds and anthills though...
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11/06/2006 06:26:15 PM · #60 |
| It is actually a farse anyway. It has been proven that microwaving water does not chemically alter it in any way. H20 comes out of the microwave H20. |
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11/06/2006 07:54:23 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Re: "to microwave users..."
To all members: microwaving users is a violation of the site ToS and will not be tolerated! ;-) |
but they would say, "users are users are users no matter how you microwave them..." LOL |
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11/06/2006 08:03:46 PM · #62 |
Personally I don't believe in microwaves...don't own one, don't use them and won't.
if you can believe TV, I saw a show about hygiene in your home and they suggested microwaving all cleaning cloths for 30 seconds even after washing to kill anything living on it.
I'd prefer the nutrients in my food to still be there when I want to consume it!
Message edited by author 2006-11-06 20:07:41. |
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11/06/2006 08:23:07 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
I wasn't going to add to the thread because the whole experiment has no scientific validity, but since it keeps going on and on....
Here's the link on Snopes that talks about this exact issue, including their own experiments. |
The link above really works. They did their own experiment. Want to know what happened? Click on the link. I'll give you a hint though, water is water.
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11/06/2006 08:31:07 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Personally I don't believe in microwaves...don't own one, don't use them and won't.
if you can believe TV, I saw a show about hygiene in your home and they suggested microwaving all cleaning cloths for 30 seconds even after washing to kill anything living on it.
I'd prefer the nutrients in my food to still be there when I want to consume it! |
You can kill anything by heating it in an oven too, it is the temp., not the source of heat. |
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11/06/2006 09:25:36 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Personally I don't believe in microwaves...don't own one, don't use them and won't.
if you can believe TV, I saw a show about hygiene in your home and they suggested microwaving all cleaning cloths for 30 seconds even after washing to kill anything living on it.
I'd prefer the nutrients in my food to still be there when I want to consume it! |
Actually, the very act of cooking, no matter what method is used, is what breaks down and zaps nutrients. It's one of the main arguments hardcore vegans cite in favor of "raw" diets.
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11/06/2006 09:32:30 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
Actually, the very act of cooking, no matter what method is used, is what breaks down and zaps nutrients. It's one of the main arguments hardcore vegans cite in favor of "raw" diets. |
I knew RAW was better! |
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11/06/2006 10:30:47 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Personally I don't believe in microwaves...
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Believe....
They really do exist.
Message edited by author 2006-11-06 22:31:18. |
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11/06/2006 10:31:03 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
Actually, the very act of cooking, no matter what method is used, is what breaks down and zaps nutrients. It's one of the main arguments hardcore vegans cite in favor of "raw" diets. |
I knew RAW was better! |
Some nutrients are actually more available from slightly-cooked food (vegetables), because the cooking process helps break down the cell walls. If eaten raw, some of those cells (and their contents) pass through the human digestive system intact. I think carrots and broccoli are two examples of this. I believe the limit for "raw" foods is to keep the temperature below 160 degrees F; hot enough to break down the physical structures but low enough to preserve the nutrients.
Microwaving is actually a great way to preserve the nutrients in vegetables because it heats them without having to use a steamer or boiling water, which will dissolve and carry off a lot of the vitamins.
Another interesting note is that frozen vegetables will often be higher in some nutrients than their fresh counterparts, because they are usually flash-frozen very near the time of harvest, while "fresh" vegetables have often been sitting in distribution centers or on trucks for several days before they reach the store shelves, losing nutrients to oxidation and enzymatic activity. For best results, shop at a farmer's market and cook lightly. |
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11/06/2006 10:31:43 PM · #69 |
| Ha lol, kirbic the vampire. If you see somebody knawing on a cow in the middle of a farm... |
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11/06/2006 10:33:23 PM · #70 |
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11/06/2006 10:35:39 PM · #71 |
| Not only does Paul swing a heck of a camera, but he knows his food. |
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11/06/2006 10:41:23 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
Ha lol, kirbic the vampire. If you see somebody knawing on a cow in the middle of a farm... |
That's me! When the waiter asks me "how do you want your steak?" I answer "still mooooving!"
Originally posted by crayon:
raw fish is nice :) |
Yes, *very* nice! A little Ahi perhaps... mmmm, sashimi. |
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11/06/2006 10:44:36 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by crayon:
raw fish is nice :) |
Yes, *very* nice! A little Ahi perhaps... mmmm, sashimi. |
Same here! I once went to a buffet and I think I ate so much sashimi I fell sick the other day. But on the 3rd day, my sashimi craving returned lol! |
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11/06/2006 10:47:17 PM · #74 |
| I never could do raw meat. My dad on the other hand... I think he could eat raw hamburger. I like my meat cooked. Not jerky, but only a stripe of pink in the middle. |
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11/06/2006 11:00:16 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
I never could do raw meat. My dad on the other hand... I think he could eat raw hamburger. I like my meat cooked. Not jerky, but only a stripe of pink in the middle. |
Here in Wisconsin, we have our own version of steak tartare. We start with a slice of good rye bread, and add a layer of very lean ground beef, top with raw onion and season with salt and coarse ground pepper. Oh, baby! |
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