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11/04/2006 11:15:43 AM · #1 |
Originally posted by Judith Polakoff:
Continued from this thread.
greatandsmall, thanks for your response. I do wonder why you counted the New Freedom Initiative among the NWO projects. I was under the impression that that is one of a very small number of Bush administration initiatives that is actually fairly positive and embraced at least by the mental health community. Am I wrong about that? |
Thanks for asking, Judith. There is a great deal of information leading up to my opinion of The New Freedom Intitiative (specifically New Freedom Commission on Mental Health). I will do my best to condense it.
Mind Control exists and is the key tool of the NWO. The techniques were imported from the Nazis during Project Paperclip; and developed through Project MKUltra
Based on my research, I am convinced that the minds of American people are currently being controlled to an astonishing degree; and that this insidious assault on our psyches accounts for everything from which toothpaste we buy to which countries we choose to attack. The beauty of this technique is that it is so incredible that most people are reluctant to admit that they could be victims.
If you believe that the goal of the NWO is to control the masses, both physically and mentally, then otherwise inexplicable changes in society become crystal clear.
Why is our society so dependent upon pharmaceuticals? How did it become necessary to place our children on dangerous psychotropic drugs? How did things get to the point where so many children are out of control, that anyone would consider drugging them? Is this necessary, or is it just another market for the corporations who manufacture these drugs? And why is the Bush family so tight with the company that uses Thimerosal in its vaccines? Thimerosal has been linked to Autism in children.
Excerpts from: Bush Plans to Screen Whole US Population for Mental Illness
by Jeanne Lenzer -
BMJ 2004;328:1458 (19 June)
'The Texas project started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas, and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas. The project was funded by a Robert Wood Johnson grant and by several drug companies. Mr. Jones told the BMJ that the same "political/pharmaceutical alliance" that generated the Texas project was behind the recommendations of the New Freedom Commission, which, according to his whistleblower report, were "poised to consolidate the TMAP effort into a comprehensive national policy to treat mental illness with expensive, patented medications of questionable benefit and deadly side effects, and to force private insurers to pick up more of the tab"'
"Olanzapine (trade name Zyprexa), one of the atypical antipsychotic drugs recommended as a first line drug in the Texas algorithm, grossed $4.28bn (�2.35bn; 3.56bn) worldwide in 2003 and is Eli Lilly's top selling drug. A 2003 New York Times article by Gardiner Harris reported that 70% of olanzapine sales are paid for by government agencies, such as Medicare and Medicaid.
Eli Lilly, manufacturer of olanzapine, has multiple ties to the Bush administration. George Bush Sr was a member of Lilly's board of directors and Bush Jr. appointed Lilly's chief executive officer, Sidney Taurel, to a seat on the Homeland Security Council. Lilly made $1.6m in political contributions in 2000<82% of which went to Bush and the Republican Party.
Jones points out that the companies that helped to start up the Texas project have been, and still are, big contributors to the election funds of George W Bush. In addition, some members of the New Freedom Commission have served on advisory boards for these same companies, while others have direct ties to the Texas Medication Algorithm Project."
Allen Jones lost his job for disclosing this information.
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Whistleblower removed from job for talking to the press
Jeanne Lenzer
"His findings showed that the pharmaceutical company Janssen had paid honorariums to key state officials who held influence over the drugs prescribed in state-run prisons and mental hospitals."
In order to frame this information, it's helpful to know a little about the history of mind control. Here are just a few links; and searching any of these words will provide enough information to "blow your mind".
Mind Control: America's Secret War
Project MK Ultra (and associated projects)
HAARP
Trauma Based Mind Control, which I believe was implicit in The Franklin Scandal. I strongly recommend watching The Conspiracy of Silence to anyone who questions that our government leaders are capable of committing such atrocities. All copies of the documentary were ordered to be destroyed; but many bootleg copies are found on the internet (I love the internet!).
Conspiracy of Silence on google videos
It is also my opinion that school shootings, the destruction caused on 9/11, the crimes committed at Gitmo and secret CIA prisons are also very effective uses of Trauma Based Mind Control.
Disclaimer: I have read most of the information linked; however, my opinions are based on so many hours of research, that these few links are a just a small sampling of what has shaped my thoughts on this issue. Please don't hold me accountable for all of the information on these sites and videos. This post is my attempt to explain why I feel the way I do about our government overseeing our mental health.
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11/04/2006 11:34:38 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Why is our society so dependent upon pharmaceuticals? How did it become necessary to place our children on dangerous psychotropic drugs? How did things get to the point where so many children are out of control, that anyone would consider drugging them? Is this necessary, or is it just another market for the corporations who manufacture these drugs?
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I think this has more to do with parents being happy to accept anything that lets them off the hook for being responsible for their children's behavior (or lack thereof).
How things got to the point where so many kids got out of control would be worth discussing. before chalking it up to world conspiracy, I'd like to see other points addressed. For instance
- a pervasive societal view that physical punishment of children (which seemed to work well for hundreds of years) is now considered a form of abuse
- the socioeconomic effects of an economy that does not just encourage both parents to work but has forced most familes into a situation where both parents MUST work, and must work an unhealthy number of hours which takes a toll on the health of their family
- the encouragement through a myriad of 'educational' sources (remember, anything a kid sees/hears/reads is educating them in some way) that it is your right to do whatever you feel like doing and anyone telling you otherwise is narrow minded and intolerant
- etc, etc
While I do agree that there are and always have been a relatively small group of people moving in and out of powerful political positions, I do not blindly accept that they operate as a cabal pushing some NWO ideology. Mindlessly accepting a conspiracy theory, even one that appears to be presented with factual evidence, is just another form of ignorance and complacence. Swallowing a list of pseudo facts that set aside any and all factors that could also account for the behavior the conspiracy theory addresses is foolishness.
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11/04/2006 04:23:17 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Why is our society so dependent upon pharmaceuticals? How did it become necessary to place our children on dangerous psychotropic drugs? How did things get to the point where so many children are out of control, that anyone would consider drugging them? Is this necessary, or is it just another market for the corporations who manufacture these drugs?
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I think this has more to do with parents being happy to accept anything that lets them off the hook for being responsible for their children's behavior (or lack thereof).
How things got to the point where so many kids got out of control would be worth discussing. before chalking it up to world conspiracy, I'd like to see other points addressed. For instance
- a pervasive societal view that physical punishment of children (which seemed to work well for hundreds of years) is now considered a form of abuse |
Does this mean that you believe that corporal punishment is the best alternative to drugging unruly children? To which “few hundred years” do you refer? And which cultures do you suggest found it effective? For what it’s worth, I have read about cultures that denounced physical punishement of children; and instead, treated them with great respect. It is said that these children were remarkably well behaved.
Originally posted by routerguy666:
- the socioeconomic effects of an economy that does not just encourage both parents to work but has forced most familes into a situation where both parents MUST work, and must work an unhealthy number of hours which takes a toll on the health of their family |
Very true. When did this begin? When did Americans decide that they had to have two cars, a hefty mortgage, unsecured debt and a house full of junk made in Asia? I’m no economist; but it seems that this mentality came about right after WWII. That’s not to say that I blame the NWO directly for the American crusade to keep up with the Jones’; but the unchecked consumerism is a direct result of the conditioning and advertising of those corporations, and is strongly encouraged by the government which benefits directly.
And I do suspect that the socioeconomic conditions of those living below the poverty line are a result of NWO philosophies.
Originally posted by routerguy666:
- the encouragement through a myriad of 'educational' sources (remember, anything a kid sees/hears/reads is educating them in some way) that it is your right to do whatever you feel like doing and anyone telling you otherwise is narrow minded and intolerant |
I’m not quite sure what you mean by this. Care to elaborate?
Originally posted by routerguy666:
- etc, etc
While I do agree that there are and always have been a relatively small group of people moving in and out of powerful political positions, I do not blindly accept that they operate as a cabal pushing some NWO ideology. Mindlessly accepting a conspiracy theory, even one that appears to be presented with factual evidence, is just another form of ignorance and complacence. Swallowing a list of pseudo facts that set aside any and all factors that could also account for the behavior the conspiracy theory addresses is foolishness.
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I would never ask someone to “blindly” or “mindlessly” accept a conspiracy theory. Nor do I promote “swallowing” a list of “pseudo” facts while setting aside other factors. I don’t take offense at your statement; because they don’t apply to me. I spend more hours than I care to admit scouring through declassified government documents, official statements, “conspiracy” theories and “debunkers” theories. It has taken me a very long time to form the opinions I have; most of which are supported by a hell of a lot more factual evidence than the “conspiracy” theory that we have been asked to believe about the events of 9-11.
Unfortunately, I am in the minority with the amount of free time I have for this indulgence. The reason these criminals are still at work is because so many people don’t have a chance to break through the mind control networks that are so cleverly designed to keep them occupied. As far as I’m concerned, the types of blanket statements that you use to describe those who don’t agree with your opinion, are a perfect example of how well these methods work.
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11/04/2006 04:45:01 PM · #4 |
I am not offering well researched counterpoints to your conspiracy theory. I am merely pointing out that there are countless catalysts behind everything we see and every 'problem' in our society.
The bottom line is that it requires less mental effort and moral fortitude to pin all of societies ills on some nebulous group of invisble henchmen bent on world domination than it does to identify and address the tangible causes of a lot of societies problems.
"They are powerful, they are smarter than us, and they have us in their control" is weak-minded transferrence of blame.
What people should be saying is "My own actions have a direct impact upon the world in which I live, and by choosing to continue living in this way and accepting the things around me, I am taking an active role in perpetuating the status quo". |
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11/04/2006 05:44:57 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
... I'd like to see other points addressed. For instance
- a pervasive societal view that physical punishment of children (which seemed to work well for hundreds of years) is now considered a form of abuse |
Yes, I believe corporal punishment was popular right up through the time our current generation of world leaders was raised ... we know that bullying and abuse begets similar behaviors -- the victims often go on to become perpetrators -- perhaps that explains why we've never been without a state of war existing somewhere in the world.
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11/04/2006 05:47:35 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
I am not offering well researched counterpoints to your conspiracy theory. I am merely pointing out that there are countless catalysts behind everything we see and every 'problem' in our society.
The bottom line is that it requires less mental effort and moral fortitude to pin all of societies ills on some nebulous group of invisble henchmen bent on world domination than it does to identify and address the tangible causes of a lot of societies problems.
"They are powerful, they are smarter than us, and they have us in their control" is weak-minded transferrence of blame.
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We are both conspiracy theorists. It just seems that we are interested in different conspiracies. Any time you feel like sharing your research, I'd love to be the recipient. I must admit that there are some pretty wild ideas, floating around out there; some of which a true conspiracy theorist might suspect have been planted to affect the plausibility of the rest. Through my attempts at objectivity; I have abandoned many ideas that originally seemed believable, and I'm always looking for credible opposition. Trust me, I don't want to believe any of this stuff; it's just getting harder to ignore as each day passes.
I'm pretty sure I never blamed all of society's ills on a nebulous group of invisible henchmen. However, I think it's also foolish to ignore the mountains of evidence that there is something dark happening; and to pretend that corporations and government are only looking to serve our best interests.
Originally posted by routerguy666:
What people should be saying is "My own actions have a direct impact upon the world in which I live, and by choosing to continue living in this way and accepting the things around me, I am taking an active role in perpetuating the status quo". |
Absolutely! I agree with this 100% Do you have any thoughts on how someone might go about doing this? Are there any specific changes that you would suggest?
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11/04/2006 06:47:16 PM · #7 |
Here's an intresting video about mind control that touches on alternatives to drugging children; as well as the very real technology of transferring memory sets electronically and how this might be used in future educational applications.
Dr. Nick Begich; Are You a Manchurian Candidate?
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11/04/2006 07:39:12 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Here's an intresting video about mind control that touches on alternatives to drugging children; as well as the very real technology of transferring memory sets electronically and how this might be used in future educational applications.
Dr. Nick Begich; Are You a Manchurian Candidate? |
From what he is talking about, why doesn't the gov't just modulate an RF frequency to make us more active to cure our obescity problems?
Also sounds like I need to modulate a 7 - 12 hz signal to get myself in "the zone" LOL
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11/04/2006 09:02:44 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
From what he is talking about, why doesn't the gov't just modulate an RF frequency to make us more active to cure our obescity problems?
Also sounds like I need to modulate a 7 - 12 hz signal to get myself in "the zone" LOL |
Maybe they want us to be fat...??? More money for the Pharmaceutical companies and easier to control if they need to put us in the Concentration Camps.
Yeah, I'd love to have a zone frequency modulator, too! Especially if it would keep me out of the Rant forum and get me into some better photography;)
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11/04/2006 09:23:22 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Yeah, I'd love to have a zone frequency modulator, too! Especially if it would keep me out of the Rant forum and get me into some better photography;) |
Actually, I think I'm gonna try some of the hemi-snyc... seems pretty basic in principle to put together an audio track to produce the effect.
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11/04/2006 09:24:24 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Maybe they want us to be fat...??? More money for the Pharmaceutical companies and easier to control if they need to put us in the Concentration Camps.
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More money for Pharm. companies would NOT suprise me at all.
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11/06/2006 05:29:59 PM · #12 |
An interesting read on this subject for those who have not yet succumbed to the mind-control techniques already being applied in American schools.
Brainwashing in America
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11/06/2006 06:27:20 PM · #13 |
My education is a double major in marketing and communication (I have a masters...whoop..de..doo). A lot of my time was spent in psychology classes and human behaviour classes learning what motivates people to do what they do and how to make money from it.
I have no doubt that the ability to manipulate, control and shape perceptions of the population is a priority and has been a priority.
It doesn't take a PhD to agree that psychotropic drugs are an effective way to accomplish this task. LSD was one of the most heavily studied mind altering drugs the government was interested in.
Some of the drugs used today make LSD look like a 1950's Chevy compared to a 2007 Mercedes SL500. These drugs are powerful and very specific in the the type of chemical modifications they encourage and the receptors they affect in the human brain. The blood barrier that controls what chemical get to the brain and what does not has been one of the most heavily studied physical features of the human anatomy (other than breast enlargements) over the last 30 years.
All that said...American's fascination with pharmacuetical answers to our daily hurdles has led us to this path. Hell, I went in to my doctor a couple years ago for some stress problems that I thought were related to a heart condition (they weren't) and he offered me 2 prescriptions for anti-depressants (which I declined) for no reason other than I was stressing on some projects at work. >:-/
Why do so many kids have problems with attention? Umm..could it be the incredible amount of stimulation they get in our society and the processed foods we pump into them and the psycho-babble their parents spout after watching an episode of Oprah?
My daughter (a sophomore in college) never had a voice raised to her much less a hand. Shes' a genius in English and can't understand basic algebra :-/ I never considered her failings in math to be a problem with anything in her brain unless she wanted to be an engineer :-)
My bottom line. Are people out to control your mind? Yeah. I try to do it everyday. It's like herding cats. Are drugs overused/overprescribed in our country? Yeah..just say no unless its for diabetes or a heart condition or other life threatening problem. Erectile disfunction, sugar blues or trouble dropping a few pounds may be a difficulty but I wouldnt risk my life over fixing it with a drug.
Are they out to get you? Yeah...but I think it's one of those who's doing the courting questions.
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11/06/2006 07:15:46 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Why do so many kids have problems with attention? |
Because they suffer from a deficit of attention? A lot of them spend more waking hours with their teachers than their parent(s) these days : ( |
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11/06/2006 07:17:52 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by hokie:
Why do so many kids have problems with attention? |
Because they suffer from a deficit of attention? A lot of them spend more waking hours with their teachers than their parent(s) these days : ( |
That is a great response...did you read that or make that up? |
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11/06/2006 07:32:18 PM · #16 |
Interesting points, hokie; and I agree with you, for the most part. It does us no good to blame our government for the results of our complacency. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't something evil taking place just below the surface. There is; and it's quite obvious for anyone who takes the time to read the documents.
Although I find his show to be increasingly ridiculous; Dr. Phil has some good catch phrases that really speak to me. One of those is "The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior."
Having studied psychology; I'm sure you are well aware that our government has been conducting cruel and inhumane experiments on it's own citizens for almost a century. There is more than enough evidence available for anyone who is willing to lift the veil of denial and accept that the Hippocratic oath does not apply when it comes to matters of "National Security".
Most of the victims of MKUltra were unwilling participants. Many were "diagnosed" with depressive disorders as a guise to get them into the Allen Memorial Instute; where they were subjected to much worse than overdoses of LSD. Many of these people's lives were completely destroyed; and their minds erased. There has been virtually no effort to locate and treat or compensate these victims. Many have also been murdered for speaking out about the abuses they suffered.
This is common knowledge; and there are documents and lawsuits aplenty to confirm these horrible acts took place. There are also many documented incidents of coverups concerning kidnapping, ritual satanic and sexual abuse and slavery sponsored by our own CIA. To the best of my knowledge there is still no National Missing Child Database to track the estimated one hundred thousand children who vanish every year. Is our government really this incompetent, or is this by design?
Either way, I would never trust these people with the minds of my children.
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11/06/2006 07:32:35 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by hokie:
That is a great response...did you read that or make that up? |
Thanks -- I think I made it up, and first posted it here 2-3 years ago in another thread where the subject of ADD came up ... |
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11/06/2006 08:18:07 PM · #18 |
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11/06/2006 08:33:34 PM · #19 |
I think if you look hard enough, you can convince yourself of pretty much anything. Whitley Strieber is the same person who wrote a non-fiction book called Communion, where he tells of his experiances of being abducted at his upstate New York cabin. Yet draws no solid conclusion. Don't believe everything you read, and question everything:) |
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11/06/2006 08:34:33 PM · #20 |
Wow....you know...if the scandals that rocked the Catholic church were severe...can you imagine if the U.S. government were found complicit in this kind of thing?
But that site does resemble the crazy shit you hear on talk radio late at night :-/
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11/06/2006 08:38:40 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by MQuinn:
I think if you look hard enough, you can convince yourself of pretty much anything. Whitley Strieber is the same person who wrote a non-fiction book called Communion, where he tells of his experiances of being abducted at his upstate New York cabin. Yet draws no solid conclusion. Don't believe everything you read, and question everything:) |
I think if you look hard enough you will find that he quotes the official police reports for this case. You can convince youself of anything if you don't want to believe it.
Edit to add: Check out the Paul Bonacci lawsuit for another documented case.
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11/06/2006 08:39:46 PM · #22 |
Death by ritalin
Routerguy said: I think this has more to do with parents being happy to accept anything that lets them off the hook for being responsible for their children's behavior (or lack thereof).
Some parents don't get a choice in medicating their children:
For the last year of his life he was taking 20mg of Ritalin three times a day.
The Certificate of Death under due to, (or because of) reads, Death caused from Long Term Use of Methylphenidate, (Ritalin). According to Dr. Ljuba Dragovic, The chief pathologist in Oakland County Michigan, upon autopsy, Matthew's heart showed clear signs of small vessel damage, the type caused by stimulant drugs like amphetamines.
The medical examiners told me that a full-grown man’s heart weighs about 350 grams and that Matthew's heart weight was about 402 grams
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While visiting the doctor with the school’s diagnosis and the recommendation for Ritalin, he seemed very frustrated and asked us to let the school know, “I am not a pharmacy.” This leads me to believe that we were not the first parents sent to this doctor, with the schools diagnosis and recommendation for Ritalin.
It all started for Matthew in the first grade the school social worker in Berkley, Michigan kept calling us in for meetings. One particular morning before an IEP meeting, the school social worker Monica Fuchs, my wife and I, were waiting on the others to arrive.
Monica made us feel very threatened when she said that if we wouldn't consider getting Matt on Ritalin for their diagnosis of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, that Social Services (Child Protective Services) could charge us for neglecting his educational and emotional needs. My wife and I were scared of the possibility of losing our children, if we did not comply.
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11/06/2006 08:51:17 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by amber:
Death by ritalin
Routerguy said: I think this has more to do with parents being happy to accept anything that lets them off the hook for being responsible for their children's behavior (or lack thereof).
Some parents don't get a choice in medicating their children:
For the last year of his life he was taking 20mg of Ritalin three times a day.
The Certificate of Death under due to, (or because of) reads, Death caused from Long Term Use of Methylphenidate, (Ritalin). According to Dr. Ljuba Dragovic, The chief pathologist in Oakland County Michigan, upon autopsy, Matthew's heart showed clear signs of small vessel damage, the type caused by stimulant drugs like amphetamines.
The medical examiners told me that a full-grown man’s heart weighs about 350 grams and that Matthew's heart weight was about 402 grams
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While visiting the doctor with the school’s diagnosis and the recommendation for Ritalin, he seemed very frustrated and asked us to let the school know, “I am not a pharmacy.” This leads me to believe that we were not the first parents sent to this doctor, with the schools diagnosis and recommendation for Ritalin.
It all started for Matthew in the first grade the school social worker in Berkley, Michigan kept calling us in for meetings. One particular morning before an IEP meeting, the school social worker Monica Fuchs, my wife and I, were waiting on the others to arrive.
Monica made us feel very threatened when she said that if we wouldn't consider getting Matt on Ritalin for their diagnosis of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, that Social Services (Child Protective Services) could charge us for neglecting his educational and emotional needs. My wife and I were scared of the possibility of losing our children, if we did not comply.
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I looked up the PDR and product insert for Ritalin. While www.ritalindeath.com (the link above) seemed to indicate it was common knowledge that ritalin causes cardiomyopathy, it isn't listed in the PDR and I could find no case report or medical paper talking about it.
I'm not a fan of Ritalin. I think ADHD is quite overdiagnosed in this country, but stuff like this drives me nuts...
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11/06/2006 08:51:56 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Wow....you know...if the scandals that rocked the Catholic church were severe...can you imagine if the U.S. government were found complicit in this kind of thing?
But that site does resemble the crazy shit you hear on talk radio late at night :-/ |
Perhaps Ted Gunderson is a more believable source?
He investigated the case and has the original documents. He also investigated the Franklin Scandal Coverup. Which is extensively documented and for which Paul Bonacci won a $1,000,000 lawsuit. There's also the preschools.
It's slow towards the middle and the quality sucks; but this video will shed some light on this information. Ted Gunderson video
Late night talk radio shows don't hold a candle to this crap!
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11/06/2006 09:03:43 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by amber:
Death by ritalin
Routerguy said: I think this has more to do with parents being happy to accept anything that lets them off the hook for being responsible for their children's behavior (or lack thereof).
Some parents don't get a choice in medicating their children:
For the last year of his life he was taking 20mg of Ritalin three times a day.
The Certificate of Death under due to, (or because of) reads, Death caused from Long Term Use of Methylphenidate, (Ritalin). According to Dr. Ljuba Dragovic, The chief pathologist in Oakland County Michigan, upon autopsy, Matthew's heart showed clear signs of small vessel damage, the type caused by stimulant drugs like amphetamines.
The medical examiners told me that a full-grown man’s heart weighs about 350 grams and that Matthew's heart weight was about 402 grams
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While visiting the doctor with the school’s diagnosis and the recommendation for Ritalin, he seemed very frustrated and asked us to let the school know, “I am not a pharmacy.” This leads me to believe that we were not the first parents sent to this doctor, with the schools diagnosis and recommendation for Ritalin.
It all started for Matthew in the first grade the school social worker in Berkley, Michigan kept calling us in for meetings. One particular morning before an IEP meeting, the school social worker Monica Fuchs, my wife and I, were waiting on the others to arrive.
Monica made us feel very threatened when she said that if we wouldn't consider getting Matt on Ritalin for their diagnosis of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, that Social Services (Child Protective Services) could charge us for neglecting his educational and emotional needs. My wife and I were scared of the possibility of losing our children, if we did not comply.
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I looked up the PDR and product insert for Ritalin. While www.ritalindeath.com (the link above) seemed to indicate it was common knowledge that ritalin causes cardiomyopathy, it isn't listed in the PDR and I could find no case report or medical paper talking about it.
I'm not a fan of Ritalin. I think ADHD is quite overdiagnosed in this country, but stuff like this drives me nuts... |
So the pathologist got it wrong then?
Were the side effects of the Vioxx drug in the PDR?
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