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10/12/2006 01:53:09 AM · #1
for preparing photos for upload? I've recently decided to go mainly with Alamy and am not sure if I should run the images thru Noiseware before or after bumping up the size to 48MB.

Before, when I was only doing Micro, I would convert my images to JPG,do whatever post processing was needed, check them meticulously at 100%, run the ones that needed it thu NW, check them at 100% again, and then uploaded.

With Alamy, I'm not sure how bumping up the size to 48MB affects the quality of the image as far as noise is concerned.

Thanks,
Lisa
10/12/2006 04:54:12 AM · #2
It's a very good question!

Personally, I tend to upsize first and then do all my work on the upsized image (on the principle that if it doesn't upsize well, I don't waste ages processing an image I can't use).

However, my better half does all her processing and upsizes at the very end.

I suspect it doesn't make a huge difference either way and it's more of a preference than a solid technical argument one way or the other.
10/12/2006 10:37:43 AM · #3
I ended up post processing, checking at 100%, Noiseware-ing, checking at 100%, upsizing, checking at 100%. I think they came out alright. :)

I hadn't thought of upsizing before doing anything else. I'll do that next time.
10/12/2006 10:46:29 AM · #4
Just curious, do you run everything through some form of noiseware or just on an as needed basis?
10/12/2006 10:59:52 AM · #5
Your post processing on the JPG version after converting?
That is backwards. You need to process in raw/tiff first then convert to JPG. I save a lot. I will do basic processing and save, then get creative and see what I like doing with it. Save. When I am done I have several choices and decide which I like best. IF you do that in jpg, each time you do that degrades the image quality due to image compression. It adds to my workflow and takes up more hd space to do it but I will process it in raw, convert to tiff, process again if nessisary. When its the way I absolutely want it, save it to full size JPG, reduce size for web, sharpen, save small version.
At the end of the month everything gets burned to DVD and erased from my 'busting from the seams' hard drive.
10/12/2006 09:20:26 PM · #6
I'm sorry I miscommunicated...
I do my post-processing in Adobe Camera Raw, convert to JPG and check for noise and artifacts at 100% in CS2. Then NW. Then check at 100%, upsize to 48MB, then check again at 100%. Then save to a directory awaiting to be burned and sent to Alamy.

I also do a batch resize to a small version I can put on the web or email to friends if I want.

The original raw file goes to the hard drive and archived off to DVD at the end of the month, though I'm considering scrapping the RAW files and just archiving the coverted JPG (prior to any post processing) instead.

Caitlyn,
I generally do run all the images through NW unless I think they absolutely positively do not need it. When I was doing ShutterStock, they would reject just about every single shot if I didn't run it through NW first.

Originally posted by Tlemetry:

Your post processing on the JPG version after converting?
That is backwards. You need to process in raw/tiff first then convert to JPG. I save a lot. I will do basic processing and save, then get creative and see what I like doing with it. Save. When I am done I have several choices and decide which I like best. IF you do that in jpg, each time you do that degrades the image quality due to image compression. It adds to my workflow and takes up more hd space to do it but I will process it in raw, convert to tiff, process again if nessisary. When its the way I absolutely want it, save it to full size JPG, reduce size for web, sharpen, save small version.
At the end of the month everything gets burned to DVD and erased from my 'busting from the seams' hard drive.
10/12/2006 10:33:18 PM · #7
very seldom do I use a noise reducer, even when sending to Alamy. Never had a problem with too much noise with them. If you don't need to use it don't, even the best noise reduction will remove a small amount of detail.
10/13/2006 05:25:21 AM · #8
Originally posted by TG73:

I'm sorry I miscommunicated...
I do my post-processing in Adobe Camera Raw, convert to JPG and check for noise and artifacts at 100% in CS2. Then NW. Then check at 100%, upsize to 48MB, then check again at 100%. Then save to a directory awaiting to be burned and sent to Alamy.

I also do a batch resize to a small version I can put on the web or email to friends if I want.

The original raw file goes to the hard drive and archived off to DVD at the end of the month, though I'm considering scrapping the RAW files and just archiving the coverted JPG (prior to any post processing) instead.

You're much better off using TIFF for your intermediate files, as they have lossless compression; if you are actually going RAW->JPG->NW->JPG->Resize->JPG then you're opening yourself up for compression artifacting.

I work in TIFF all the way through until the final save.
10/13/2006 09:36:24 PM · #9
I'll give that a shot from now on, thanks.

When you guys archive your files to CD/DVD, do you archive the original raw files or the tiff/jpg files that you converted them to? Before I started shooting raw, I saved my original untouched jpgs off to an archive drive. Now that I shoot raw, I save them off instead. I'm thinking I may just archive the converted tiff/jpg instead.

Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by TG73:

I'm sorry I miscommunicated...
I do my post-processing in Adobe Camera Raw, convert to JPG and check for noise and artifacts at 100% in CS2. Then NW. Then check at 100%, upsize to 48MB, then check again at 100%. Then save to a directory awaiting to be burned and sent to Alamy.

I also do a batch resize to a small version I can put on the web or email to friends if I want.

The original raw file goes to the hard drive and archived off to DVD at the end of the month, though I'm considering scrapping the RAW files and just archiving the coverted JPG (prior to any post processing) instead.

You're much better off using TIFF for your intermediate files, as they have lossless compression; if you are actually going RAW->JPG->NW->JPG->Resize->JPG then you're opening yourself up for compression artifacting.

I work in TIFF all the way through until the final save.
10/14/2006 10:33:01 PM · #10
I archive all copies at the end of the month onto DVD.

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