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09/28/2006 08:30:57 PM · #1
Got my extension tube today. Ebay for $26. Full "manual" but great! Here are the first of about 10 shots taken today. These two shots are about 50% crop from the original.

Comments and questions welcomed!

KenSkid



Here's a cleaned up version of the lizard.


Message edited by author 2006-09-28 21:35:15.
09/28/2006 08:34:45 PM · #2
how'd you get such a great DOF?

Message edited by author 2006-09-28 20:35:07.
09/28/2006 08:43:39 PM · #3
Well I guess I should have put that in the details! These shots were taken extremly close up. I used a flash which allowed me to used "manual" f32 ! Surprisingly I did get decent dof!

Thanks,

Originally posted by jaded_youth:

how'd you get such a great DOF?


Message edited by author 2006-09-28 20:43:58.
09/28/2006 08:51:58 PM · #4
You just sold me on searching out some extension tubes. Good stuff.

Message edited by author 2006-09-28 20:52:11.
09/28/2006 08:56:27 PM · #5
Those two shots were done with very little effort!

I got the tube here.

Originally posted by faidoi:

You just sold me on searching out some extension tubes. Good stuff.

09/28/2006 08:59:19 PM · #6
Those look good. I've always thought about getting those myself but since I have a 180mm macro lens I doubt it would make much of a difference.
09/28/2006 09:06:09 PM · #7
It made a big difference on the 105. What it does is allow you to get closer to the subject. You get a really big image in the sensor. Almost no need to crop pixels in PS.

I think the math shows that that I get 1:1 with my 105mm and 1: 1.26 with the tube. That .26 makes a big difference.

You will get 1: 1.15 with a 27.5mm and your 180mm lens.

Kenskid

Originally posted by yanko:

Those look good. I've always thought about getting those myself but since I have a 180mm macro lens I doubt it would make much of a difference.

09/28/2006 09:22:01 PM · #8
what would an extension tube do for my 70-200? I really wish I could take closer pics with it..
09/28/2006 09:30:52 PM · #9
1: 1.26

I think if you put a 27.5mm tube and zoomed to 100mm on your lens, you would get something like 1: 1.26, I may be wrong though.

In plain english...the tube will MAKE you get closer to your subject. ALOT closer than you could focus w/o the tube.

For example: If your minimum focus is now 4 feet....and you add the tube, depending on the length of the tube, your minimum focus distance would get alot closer...maybe 1 foot ! So you get a bigger image on the sensor.

Originally posted by Plexxoid:

what would an extension tube do for my 70-200? I really wish I could take closer pics with it..

09/28/2006 09:40:28 PM · #10
Pity one can't use something like that on a point and shoot. Just one more reason I'm going to have to get a dSLR.
09/28/2006 10:09:02 PM · #11
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

Pity one can't use something like that on a point and shoot. Just one more reason I'm going to have to get a dSLR.


Your FZ5 can focus pretty close in macro mode...I know I can focus down to 2cm, maybe even less, with my FZ4.
09/28/2006 10:22:50 PM · #12
That cam can focus to 2cm? Do you have any samples of that?

Skid

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

Pity one can't use something like that on a point and shoot. Just one more reason I'm going to have to get a dSLR.


Your FZ5 can focus pretty close in macro mode...I know I can focus down to 2cm, maybe even less, with my FZ4.

09/28/2006 10:33:39 PM · #13
Originally posted by kenskid:

That cam can focus to 2cm? Do you have any samples of that?

Skid


Not at the moment, but i can take one quick. :) Hold on.

Message edited by author 2006-09-28 22:33:55.
09/28/2006 10:44:21 PM · #14
Here's a picture of my ID card, there's a normal photo of it along with a close up. The close up is with the lens barrel on my desk, pointed downwards.
Close up:


Normal:


Edit to add: Added EXIF info to examples.

Message edited by author 2006-09-28 22:48:50.
09/28/2006 10:46:29 PM · #15
I'd say that qualifies!

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Here's a picture of my ID card, there's a normal photo of it along with a close up. The close up is with the lens barrel on my desk, pointed downwards.
Close up:


Normal:

09/28/2006 10:49:30 PM · #16
Originally posted by kenskid:

I'd say that qualifies!


Yup, one of the major advantages of this camera...too bad I'm going to sell it to upgrade to a dSLR... Any takers? :P

Message edited by author 2006-09-28 22:54:02.
09/28/2006 10:54:35 PM · #17
Not to hijack my own thread but:

The reason I purchased my first DSLR was because a friend had the FZ4 and I loved it. It was the best cam I had used up to that point.

However, when it came down to buying, I decided to go up a notch...and purchased my D70. If I hadn't used the FZ4, I think I'd still be shooting with a 2mp point and shoot!

edit:

My friend's FZ has been sitting in a closet for more that a year. He never uses it! He and his wife use the "casio" thin camera! The FZ sits as I speak !!!

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Originally posted by kenskid:

I'd say that qualifies!


Yup, one of the major advantages of this camera...too bad I'm going to sell it to upgrade to a dSLR.


Message edited by author 2006-09-28 22:56:17.
09/28/2006 11:02:28 PM · #18
Originally posted by kenskid:

Not to hijack my own thread but:

The reason I purchased my first DSLR was because a friend had the FZ4 and I loved it. It was the best cam I had used up to that point.

However, when it came down to buying, I decided to go up a notch...and purchased my D70. If I hadn't used the FZ4, I think I'd still be shooting with a 2mp point and shoot!

edit:

My friend's FZ has been sitting in a closet for more that a year. He never uses it! He and his wife use the "casio" thin camera! The FZ sits as I speak !!!


Not to continue your hijack...but I do love this camera, it does a really great job. I bought it because I couldn't afford a dSLR at the time and it has served me very very well throughout our year together. I just think that now I need something more than the FZ can offer. If you're just starting out though, the FZ offers a lot of features for not a lot of money. It's a shame that that FZ sits on that shelf, you should see if he'll give it to you. Never know when you might want to use that 420mm IS Leica lens. :) Ok, I'm done [/hijack]
09/28/2006 11:04:58 PM · #19
You are right about that lens! I freaked when I first photographed a moving car at night wit a shutter of about 1/15 and NO CAMERA SHAKE was evident! Nice! Shot was very sharp and clear also.

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Not to hijack my own thread but:

The reason I purchased my first DSLR was because a friend had the FZ4 and I loved it. It was the best cam I had used up to that point.

However, when it came down to buying, I decided to go up a notch...and purchased my D70. If I hadn't used the FZ4, I think I'd still be shooting with a 2mp point and shoot!

edit:

My friend's FZ has been sitting in a closet for more that a year. He never uses it! He and his wife use the "casio" thin camera! The FZ sits as I speak !!!


Not to continue your hijack...but I do love this camera, it does a really great job. I bought it because I couldn't afford a dSLR at the time and it has served me very very well throughout our year together. I just think that now I need something more than the FZ can offer. If you're just starting out though, the FZ offers a lot of features for not a lot of money. It's a shame that that FZ sits on that shelf, you should see if he'll give it to you. Never know when you might want to use that 420mm IS Leica lens. :) Ok, I'm done [/hijack]


Message edited by author 2006-09-28 23:05:23.
09/29/2006 12:15:23 AM · #20
Is there a thread which explains the use of extension tubes? I am looking for a reasonably-priced macro, but can I use a tube on my 24-70 or 100-400 instead? If so, which one(s). I know nothing about them.

For example, at Adorama, there are 2 kinds of Canon 100mm - one is a telephoto and one a macro.
Canon EF 100mm f/2 USM Medium Telephoto AutoFocus Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Auto Focus Lens

I'm not sure what makes the difference between the two - and I assume extension tubes can be used with both?

Message edited by author 2006-09-29 00:45:27.
09/29/2006 09:37:48 AM · #21
The USM that says "macro" should be the one you want for close-up work. It will likely get you 1:1 on your sensor, meaning "life sized". Add an extension tube and you will be able to get much closer to your subject, hence, makinging it appear "bigger" on your sensor, hence a closer close-up.

Originally posted by papagei:

Is there a thread which explains the use of extension tubes? I am looking for a reasonably-priced macro, but can I use a tube on my 24-70 or 100-400 instead? If so, which one(s). I know nothing about them.

For example, at Adorama, there are 2 kinds of Canon 100mm - one is a telephoto and one a macro.
Canon EF 100mm f/2 USM Medium Telephoto AutoFocus Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Auto Focus Lens

I'm not sure what makes the difference between the two - and I assume extension tubes can be used with both?
09/29/2006 11:36:49 AM · #22
Maybe silly question, but how were you able to force it to f32?

If I could figure out how to do it manually I'd jump on one of these.
09/29/2006 11:45:45 AM · #23
Hey Kenny, I looked at that link you posted and I didn't see any extension tubes listed. Was it a limited quantity thing or am I just not seeing it?
09/29/2006 12:56:19 PM · #24
I didn't see anymore there either. However, you may want to look here for extension tubes for you Canon.

There are two types...the expensive kind $100 - $200 that will work with camera and allows you to have full automatic control of your camera...just as if the tube were not there....or the inexpensive (like I have) that you have to operate in manual mode only. I like the manual mode only...it is cheaper and I usually do my macro work in manual mode anyway!

Let me know if you find anything.

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Hey Kenny, I looked at that link you posted and I didn't see any extension tubes listed. Was it a limited quantity thing or am I just not seeing it?

09/29/2006 01:14:34 PM · #25
Originally posted by kenskid:


Originally posted by papagei:

Is there a thread which explains the use of extension tubes? I am looking for a reasonably-priced macro, but can I use a tube on my 24-70 or 100-400 instead? If so, which one(s). I know nothing about them.

For example, at Adorama, there are 2 kinds of Canon 100mm - one is a telephoto and one a macro.
Canon EF 100mm f/2 USM Medium Telephoto AutoFocus Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Auto Focus Lens

I'm not sure what makes the difference between the two - and I assume extension tubes can be used with both?


The USM that says "macro" should be the one you want for close-up work. It will likely get you 1:1 on your sensor, meaning "life sized". Add an extension tube and you will be able to get much closer to your subject, hence, makinging it appear "bigger" on your sensor, hence a closer close-up.


But if you're just wanting to try out macro without spending too much, extension tubes will work with any lens (so long as the mount's correct of course). Heck, you can even roll up a cereal box into a tube and paint it black if you're willing to forego any automatic metering. (I have photos back home from my film days to prove it!)

I regularly use extension tubes (I have a set of 3 stackable ones) with Olympus Zuiko 70-210 f/4.5-5.6, 50mm f1.4, 28mm [can't remember aperture) - all, as far as I know, pretty bog-standard lenses. Using it with the 70-210 is most flexible, as the focus ranges from about 30cm to 2metres (a LOT better than most macro combos); the 28mm gives really good magnification but at REALLY short range (ie 1-3cm or something ridiculous) but I always find it a struggle to tell the difference between optical quality of lenses, so I'm not much help there.

Message edited by author 2006-09-29 13:14:48.
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