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09/24/2003 03:29:45 PM · #51 |
hahahha. u are all confusing me.
i think we should all just open up a dictionary to the definition of ironic and take our interpretive pics of that. ;P |
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09/24/2003 03:55:26 PM · #52 |
What about chevettes with $30,000 sound systems?
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09/24/2003 04:40:38 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by dwoolridge:
No one takes them seriously anyway, ... |
if you can frame that thought, you've got irony
with all the recent insect/spider, sport/chess, etc discussions, has anything ever been settled one way or the other? has anyone ever been persuaded by a particularly eloquent argument?
these things just go back-and-forth for a while, irregardless of anyone's facts outweighing the fantastic claims of others - until the challenge is over and nobody cares any more
if you're posting in a technical forum, you might actually contribute something useful - someone could take your idea and apply it in their 'art' --- but in these "what is ..." discussions, ultimately, no one gives a poop (except about their own opinion)
so, yeah - that anyone might take these discussions seriously - that's ironic
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09/24/2003 04:46:44 PM · #54 |
| How ironic -- I was taking your post seriously until I got to the last line .... |
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09/24/2003 04:51:34 PM · #55 |
| How about an old man turning 98, who won the lottery and died the next day? |
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09/24/2003 04:52:18 PM · #56 |
| Isn't it ironic, dontcha think? |
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09/24/2003 05:25:53 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by dwoolridge:
Originally posted by jonpink:
The irony being here that I have no idea what to do ;( |
No, that's not irony. |
Eurgh. What an unpleasant post.
Ed
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09/24/2003 05:35:25 PM · #58 |
Fighting for Peace is like Screwing for Virginity...now how to photograph THAT within the rules!
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09/24/2003 05:47:36 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Is it ironic to have Canadians trying to define the word irony, after the damage done to the word by one of the fellow countrywomen ? |
Nope. Still not ironic. And mostly irrelevant. |
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09/24/2003 06:03:37 PM · #60 |
As you're so certain Dale, care to illuminate us on your definition of the word?
Ed
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09/24/2003 06:20:58 PM · #61 |
what about O Henry's "Gift of the Magi" story? The 2 young, poor lovers who want to buy each other a Christmas gift. She has long beautiful hair and decides to cut it and sell it to buy him a fob for his treasured watch. He sells his watch so that he can afford to buy her combs for her long hair. Ironic and captures the poignant aspect as well.
Dave
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09/24/2003 06:27:39 PM · #62 |
| It is ironic that this topic came up just as my creativity declared a two-week holiday .... |
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09/24/2003 06:29:59 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It is ironic that this topic came up just as my creativity declared a two-week holiday .... |
LOL, does that mean there is even going to be a members only challenge this week since you have declare the personal two-week holiday? Now that would be very ironic! |
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09/24/2003 06:33:41 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It is ironic that this topic came up just as my creativity declared a two-week holiday .... |
LOL, does that mean there is even going to be a members only challenge this week since you have declare the personal two-week holiday? Now that would be very ironic! |
No, I never get to pick the challenge topics anyway. I guess what's ironic is the more broadly interpretive ones have come at a time when I've had less time and energy to do photography. |
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09/24/2003 06:38:43 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by dsa157:
what about O Henry's "Gift of the Magi" story? The 2 young, poor lovers who want to buy each other a Christmas gift. She has long beautiful hair and decides to cut it and sell it to buy him a fob for his treasured watch. He sells his watch so that he can afford to buy her combs for her long hair. Ironic and captures the poignant aspect as well.
Dave |
Yes, it is ironic. I love that story. |
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09/24/2003 08:31:01 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It is ironic that this topic came up just as my creativity declared a two-week holiday .... |
Probably not to Dale... |
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09/24/2003 09:08:04 PM · #67 |
how about i took a picture of a mime on a telephone just 2 weeks ago!!! isnt it ironic? dont you think? ;-)
damn that would have been perfect.. oh well *shrug* |
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09/24/2003 10:16:44 PM · #68 |
| So can someone tell me how to distinguish an oxymoronic photo from an ironic photo? |
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09/24/2003 10:41:40 PM · #69 |
| I'm going to put an oxymoronic photo in this one. :) |
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09/24/2003 11:08:30 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It is ironic that this topic came up just as my creativity declared a two-week holiday .... |
Probably not to Dale... |
Damn man, you made me guffaw. But you are right, this is not irony. |
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09/24/2003 11:14:10 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by jmritz:
I'm going to put an oxymoronic photo in this one. :) |
I think I'll go for moronic....
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09/25/2003 12:14:55 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by e301:
As you're so certain Dale, care to illuminate us on your definition of the word? |
Were it that easy, it would be done, and by someone more credible and learned than me. It's like a labyrinth, where finding your way in is the difficulty. It seems to me too subtle a thing to be found in dictionaries.
Zeuszen said it best:
Yes, but do I recognize it? It is a finer sense, and a cultivated one.
I apologize to one and all, for in my contrariety I have certainly bordered on insolence. I haven't the faintest clue what irony is. Good luck to everyone photographing it. |
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09/25/2003 12:55:34 AM · #73 |
I think of an old Twilight Zone episode. It has been a long time since I've seen it but it goes something like this:
There is a nerdy man whose passion is reading. He wants nothing but to be left alone to read. He craves the time, but life always gets in his way.
Then some global catastrophy wipes out everyone else and he is alone in a libraby...with all the time in the world to read the tons of books around him. He is estatic!
until.......
he accidently smashes his glasses and can't see a thing
Of course this was way back before you could walk in any store and pick up a pair of reading glasses.
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09/25/2003 04:44:09 AM · #74 |
dwoolridge comming last for 'not meeting the challenge'.
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09/25/2003 06:58:45 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by clauderbaugh:
So can someone tell me how to distinguish an oxymoronic photo from an ironic photo? |
A lot of the suggestions that have been put forward as ironic in this forum are in fact oxymoronic. In language it is where two contradictory words are used in conjunction to create a sort of paradoxical phrase (e.g. deafening silence). Therefore in a photo two things juxtapositioned to contradict eachother would be oxymoronic. The mime in the telephone box is oxymoronic as is the shack with a satellite dish that was mentioned previously.
Irony, I believe, is incredibly hard to convey in a photo if not impossible as it is a literary tool. Sarcasn is a form of irony (although irony does not have to be sarcastic). Essentially where you say something and mean the opposite. Obviously not quite that simple (as the amount of tension on this forum shows!) but irony is a powerful tool when done right.
The vast majority of suggestions here are coincidence, bad luck, poor judgement etc which are funny and would be ok in the challenge but which are NOT ironic.
As I said irony is very hard to capture in a photo. As quoted at the very beginning of the forum from the Guardian newspaper the author has managed to define a truly ironic situation but try to take a photo of this:
"If I was having a party, and I thought my dad was going to come, and he didn't, that wouldn't be ironic. If, on the other hand, I was having a party and I didn't want my dad to come, and I spent three weeks working on a brilliant cover story for why he couldn't come, and then my sister accidentally blew my cover, so I had to invite him anyway, and then, on the way here, he got run over and died - that's ironic."
I think we should all just stick to the humour aspect of this challenge as some people appear to be losing theirs'! |
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