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09/24/2003 11:36:19 AM · #26 |
| How about a song everyone seems to know by an artist that can't sing? |
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09/24/2003 11:39:24 AM · #27 |
Just bad timing.
here's my Alanis song generated by your link james:
Will to Live"
I feel miserable
Plates make me ill
I feel miserable
Forks tear at my foundations
I feel miserable
Knives are dragging me down to the depths of misery
I want to die
Is it because of Liver that I feel this way?
With the blue rays of misery pounding on my brain?
Or am I lost in tale of Poe, adrift far from home
I don't think so, I don't think so.
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
I was getting better but then
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
I feel miserable
Onions rot the flesh from my bones
I feel miserable
Red Blood Cells defeat my purpose
I feel miserable
Breath mints are doing their best to impale my soul
I want to die
Is it because of Liver that I feel this way?
With the blue rays of misery pounding on my brain?
Am I lost in tale of Poe, adrift far from home
I don't think so, I don't think so.
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
Oh God, Tamara Broke My Will to Live
I was getting better but then
Tamara Broke My Will to Live
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09/24/2003 11:46:29 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by dwoolridge:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Can I get a picture of Henry Kissinger accepting his Nobel Peace prize ?
Now that would show irony... |
Still not irony. |
Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
I'd happily argue that after the actions in Cambodia, Vietnam, that Kissinger winning a Peace prize is quite incongruous and hence ironic from the definition of the term.
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09/24/2003 12:05:46 PM · #29 |
OK ...enough of the Alanis M quotes please.
My very large issue with this challenge seems to be shared by quite a few people here. Firstly the British and American usages of irony are distinctly different. I don't know if it's a coincidence (definitely not irony) but the meaning of 'irony' has been a topic of hot debate in the British press of late.
I'm either going to not bother with this one for fear of getting too wound up or I'll just submit something that's simply amusing! |
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09/24/2003 12:10:57 PM · #30 |
This is what I got:
"Will to Live"
I feel miserable
Pancakes make me ill
I feel miserable
Masses tear at my foundations
I feel miserable
Drunks are dragging me down to the depths of misery
I want to die
Is it because of the many that I feel this way?
With the rouge rays of misery pounding on my brain?
Or am I lost in tale of homer, adrift far from home
I don't think so, I don't think so.
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
I was getting better but then
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
I feel miserable
Forms rot the flesh from my bones
I feel miserable
Clowns defeat my purpose
I feel miserable
Dull minds are doing their best to impale my soul
I want to die
Is it because of the many that I feel this way?
With the rouge rays of misery pounding on my brain?
Am I lost in tale of homer, adrift far from home
I don't think so, I don't think so.
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
Oh God, anyone's love Broke My Will to Live
I was getting better but then
Anyone's love Broke My Will to Live |
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09/24/2003 12:27:49 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by bod:
I think I'm going to become an honorary 'Challenge Literalist' for this one ; )
It's like rain on your wedding day? No, that's just coincidence, or bad luck :P
Essential reading before you try to define irony (if it even exists!) ...
//www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,985375,00.html |
Alright... and more seriously now:
to respond to a question posed in the text the link pointed to: the most outstanding and likely best known example of irony in German literature is the work of Thomas Mann. |
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09/24/2003 12:45:33 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
So, your doing alright knocking everyone elses ideas down, how about taking a stab at it yourself? :O |
I'm not knocking people's ideas down. There's just no irony presented. |
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09/24/2003 01:01:18 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
I'd happily argue that after the actions in Cambodia, Vietnam, that Kissinger winning a Peace prize is quite incongruous and hence ironic from the definition of the term. |
Which part? Negotiating a ceasefire? It may be shortsighted, it may be disproportionate, but it is not ironic, even with the benefit of hindsight; that only makes it ridiculous. |
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09/24/2003 01:07:46 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by dwoolridge:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
I'd happily argue that after the actions in Cambodia, Vietnam, that Kissinger winning a Peace prize is quite incongruous and hence ironic from the definition of the term. |
Which part? Negotiating a ceasefire? It may be shortsighted, it may be disproportionate, but it is not ironic, even with the benefit of hindsight; that only makes it ridiculous. |
The very fact that it is ridiculous, is what makes it ironic.
I guess though from your various posts that you are working off a different definition of irony than the one I posted just above - as your comment pretty much agrees with the definition I used.
Another dictionary voting challenge then - what fun.
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09/24/2003 01:20:04 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by dwoolridge:
Originally posted by ScottK:
So, your doing alright knocking everyone elses ideas down, how about taking a stab at it yourself? :O |
I'm not knocking people's ideas down. There's just no irony presented. |
I guess I was just hoping for someone to come up with an example that at least one other person would agree with. :) |
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09/24/2003 01:24:42 PM · #36 |
Webster's 1913 Dictionary
Definition:
\I"ron*y\, a. [From {Iron}.]
1. Made or consisting of iron; partaking of iron; iron; as,
irony chains; irony particles. [R.]
\I"ron*y\, n.[L. ironia, Gr. ? dissimulation, fr. ? a
dissembler in speech, fr. ? to speak; perh. akin to E. word:
cf. F. ironie.]
1. Dissimulation; ignorance feigned for the purpose of
confounding or provoking an antagonist.
2. A sort of humor, ridicule, or light sarcasm, which adopts
a mode of speech the meaning of which is contrary to the
literal sense of the words.
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09/24/2003 01:27:17 PM · #37 |
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09/24/2003 01:32:19 PM · #38 |
"I Think"
I Think stupid managers are really a huge problem
I Think whining customers are too much on my mind
I Think sore feet have got a lot to do with why the world sucks
But what can you do?
Like a pink rain, beating down on me
Like a Robert Frost line, which won't let go of my brain
Like Cody's ass, it is in my head
Blame it on work
Blame it on work
Blame it on work
I Think stomache aches are gonna drive us all crazy
And short breaks make me feel like a child
I Think slow clocks will eventually be the downfall of civilization
But what can you do? I said what can you do?
Like a pink rain, beating down on me
Like a Robert Frost line, which won't let go of my brain
Like Cody's ass, it is in my head
Blame it on work
Blame it on work
Blame it on work
Like a pink rain, beating down on me
Like Cody's smile, cruel and cold
Like Robert Frost's ass, it is in my head
Blame it on work
Blame it on work
Blame it on work |
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09/24/2003 01:32:59 PM · #39 |
From dictionary.com:
Poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended
Usage Note: The words ironic, irony, and ironically are sometimes used of events and circumstances that might better be described as simply "coincidental" or "improbable," in that they suggest no particular lessons about human vanity or folly. Thus 78 percent of the Usage Panel rejects the use of ironically in the sentence In 1969 Susie moved from Ithaca to California where she met her husband-to-be, who, ironically, also came from upstate New York. Some Panelists noted that this particular usage might be acceptable if Susie had in fact moved to California in order to find a husband, in which case the story could be taken as exemplifying the folly of supposing that we can know what fate has in store for us. By contrast, 73 percent accepted the sentence Ironically, even as the government was fulminating against American policy, American jeans and videocassettes were the hottest items in the stalls of the market, where the incongruity can be seen as an example of human inconsistency. |
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09/24/2003 01:42:22 PM · #40 |
Welcome to the latest round of DigitalSemanticChallenge.
You'd think with everyone being so interested in words and definitions that this wasn't about images at all...
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09/24/2003 01:52:18 PM · #41 |
It's ok, Gordon. No one reads the forums anyway ; )
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09/24/2003 01:54:09 PM · #42 |
| No one takes them seriously anyway, 'cept Gordon of course. |
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09/24/2003 01:56:44 PM · #43 |
Heh. I think G is the last person to take them seriously :)
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09/24/2003 01:58:10 PM · #44 |
| Oh no, not the last. Seriously. |
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09/24/2003 02:02:39 PM · #45 |
Is it ironic to have Canadians trying to define the word irony, after the damage done to the word by one of the fellow countrywomen ?
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09/24/2003 02:07:46 PM · #46 |
Or just inevitable? :)
Message edited by author 2003-09-24 14:08:18. |
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09/24/2003 02:11:34 PM · #47 |
First time I've seen a suggestion make it...
Message edited by author 2003-09-24 14:17:48. |
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09/24/2003 02:23:04 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Welcome to the latest round of DigitalSemanticChallenge.
You'd think with everyone being so interested in words and definitions that this wasn't about images at all... |
Let's do a challenge where the theme is 'Dictionary'.
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09/24/2003 02:43:03 PM · #49 |
| oh this will be interesting |
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09/24/2003 02:56:46 PM · #50 |
Incredibly beautiful parents with an ugly child.
Limousine picking someone up in the projects.
Homeless drunk sipping Dom Perignon.
Princess Stephanie marrying an acrobat.
I suggested this topic several months ago because every morning I drive by a really run-down shack, no exaggeration, with a satellite dish.
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