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08/30/2006 09:04:04 PM · #1
Let the "Rule of Thirds II" discussion begin!

Well, this challenge should prove most interesting because, most of the time, we all should be framing our subjects using this technique.

For those unfamiliar or are having trouble grasping this concept, here is a description and a sample photo (courtesy of wikipedia):

"The rule states that an image can be divided into nine equal parts by two equally-spaced horizontal lines and two equally-spaced vertical lines. The four points formed by the intersections of these lines can be used to align features in the photograph. Proponents of this technique claim that aligning a photograph with these points creates more tension, energy and interest in the photo than simply centering the feature would."





Message edited by author 2006-09-01 14:34:15.
08/30/2006 09:21:07 PM · #2
Originally posted by lesgainous:

Let the "Rule of Thirds II" discussion begin!


Great, now we'll have folks voting with rulers...
08/30/2006 09:23:16 PM · #3
Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by lesgainous:

Let the "Rule of Thirds II" discussion begin!


Great, now we'll have folks voting with rulers...


Don't they already do that to check the horizons? :P
08/30/2006 09:25:31 PM · #4
I believe that would be called a level.
08/30/2006 10:45:23 PM · #5
I thought the challenge was "Rule of Turds" ! I just got back in with my dog when I seen this post and realized my mistake!
08/30/2006 10:57:27 PM · #6
The "Rule of Thirds" is not a rule, rather... a guideline. I already dread the DPC DNMC nazis who will say the horizon did not exacty hit the 1/3 line, so therefore DNMC. It's a guideline... meant to be overridden by common sense and a feeling for what looks "good". To all those nazis and trolls who vote down on technicalities... back off a little. This is art, not science.
09/01/2006 06:07:51 AM · #7
Hey all, found an awesome tutorial which is quite handy for cropping images, and making them stay within the rule of thirds...

//www.lunacore.com/photoshop/tutorials/tut023.htm

basically it shows you how to make a "shape" (or you can just download it from the tute), and then you use that "shape overlayed on your image to help you guide the cropping. basically it produces a movable thirds grid, with a border, and so you can then load it as a selection, and crop perfecly :) save so much time compared to before when i'd crop, then crop a little more, then crop some more etc etc lol

try it out

Message edited by author 2006-09-01 06:07:59.
09/01/2006 06:12:40 AM · #8
Originally posted by kenskid:

I thought the challenge was "Rule of Turds" ! I just got back in with my dog when I seen this post and realized my mistake!


Thats the Irish pronunciation ;-)
09/01/2006 09:26:55 PM · #9
This challenge would have been much more difficult if it had been "Rule Of Thirds challenge with no Crop". That would have been interesting.
09/01/2006 09:49:33 PM · #10
Originally posted by jdannels:

This challenge would have been much more difficult if it had been "Rule Of Thirds challenge with no Crop". That would have been interesting.


My entry would fulfill that requirement :-)

R.
09/02/2006 03:55:14 AM · #11
Hi, it's incredible that there is a photoshop tutorial for the thirds rule :).......... I read the post and read that this is art not science. It's truth but even the art have rules. Composition is a part of a photograph. I rate often with very low ratings photograph where I think that there is a bad composition. I like even the contest Pastels because i think that often there are too much photograph with an incredible saturation...often I think "WOW this is a Special effect contest".....I am curious if in the future there will is a Steven Spielberg Contest to see the works :)
09/05/2006 06:58:20 PM · #12
Having an awful problem with this.
Should my subject be small enough to only hit a rule of thirds spot?
Can my subject take up an entire thirds line?
Do I really want an image with dead space that doesn't enhance the image?
What if there are two subjects? three? do they all have to fall onto an EXACT rule of thirds spot?
Why am I sweating this? I need the the score for the WPL. I haven't seen a good six in a while. :)
09/05/2006 07:41:37 PM · #13
Hey, rules are meant to be broken. Am looking forward to seeing how voters consider my image meets the challenge, its late and I cant get myself to reshoot to get that little bit more RoT compliant. IMHO this is an open challenge with basic composition rules applied?
09/05/2006 08:07:28 PM · #14
I'm in.

As long as no one gets the ruler out, I should be ok ;-)
09/05/2006 08:08:45 PM · #15
Originally posted by dahkota:

Why am I sweating this? I need the the score for the WPL. I haven't seen a good six in a while. :)


Please excuse my ignorance, but what does WPL stand for?
09/05/2006 08:16:12 PM · #16
Originally posted by SecondCurtain:

Originally posted by dahkota:

Why am I sweating this? I need the the score for the WPL. I haven't seen a good six in a while. :)


Please excuse my ignorance, but what does WPL stand for?


No probs, its an offshoot from here, the World Photography League, to get involved is damaging to your normal life!
09/05/2006 08:27:31 PM · #17
Originally posted by scarbrd:

I'm in.

As long as no one gets the ruler out, I should be ok ;-)


me too.
09/05/2006 08:35:25 PM · #18
Originally posted by dahkota:

Do I really want an image with dead space that doesn't enhance the image?
What if there are two subjects? . . . do they all have to fall onto an EXACT rule of thirds spot?


It all depends on the dead space. For example, with my photo below (not in this contest, BTW), I thought for sure the block wall would be too drab and wasteful, but once I saw it on the computer, it really made the subjects (two girls) pop! The empty space made for a more dramatic scene.

As you can see, my subjects are not "dead-on" the intersecting lines which the rule-of-thirds prescribes. IMHO, the spirit of the rule-of-thirds is just to keep folks from centering their subjects all the time. A little shift in composition really makes or breaks a photo. Even if my subjects where centered horizontally, it would just be "another photo".



--Les

Message edited by author 2006-09-05 20:40:30.
09/05/2006 08:38:08 PM · #19
Originally posted by kenskid:

I thought the challenge was "Rule of Turds" ! I just got back in with my dog when I seen this post and realized my mistake!


Then it would just be a crap shoot.
09/05/2006 08:40:45 PM · #20
Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by lesgainous:

Let the "Rule of Thirds II" discussion begin!


Great, now we'll have folks voting with rulers...


nah - i put masking tape on my monitor and if your image is not on a 1/3 line it gets a 2 if it's color, 1 if its not and 9 if its upside down. LOL

Message edited by author 2006-09-05 20:41:05.
09/05/2006 08:44:11 PM · #21
I went with Simple Pleasures, though my shot perfectly follows the ROT - how about that? :D
09/05/2006 09:18:32 PM · #22
Originally posted by idnic:

I went with Simple Pleasures, though my shot perfectly follows the ROT - how about that? :D


I need to find a new dancing partner for this one.

Don't be sad cindi, we can still be friends.
09/05/2006 09:20:11 PM · #23
Originally posted by scarbrd:

I need to find a new dancing partner for this one.

Don't be sad cindi, we can still be friends.


Now that's just not right! Move yours to Simple Pleasures! I'm sure you can shoe-horn it with a good title! ;)
09/05/2006 09:21:32 PM · #24
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

I need to find a new dancing partner for this one.

Don't be sad cindi, we can still be friends.


Now that's just not right! Move yours to Simple Pleasures! I'm sure you can shoe-horn it with a good title! ;)


that would be SO wrong :P
09/05/2006 09:22:27 PM · #25
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

I need to find a new dancing partner for this one.

Don't be sad cindi, we can still be friends.


Now that's just not right! Move yours to Simple Pleasures! I'm sure you can shoe-horn it with a good title! ;)


Title:

"I get Simple Pleasures from taking photos using the Rule of Thirds"

How could they DNMC me?
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