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08/21/2006 12:05:28 AM · #1
Post your outtakes from the Fire II challenge here.
08/21/2006 12:15:56 AM · #2
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I didnt have enough time to properly edit my entry... would have entered this if I werent such a darned procrastinator!
08/21/2006 12:16:40 AM · #3
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Not an outtake, but for anyone who couldn't find it...
08/21/2006 12:39:29 AM · #4
Well its not the greatest score but I'm glad I went with something different (using B&W).

I had two others I considered, almost did the color version but I wanted something at least slightly atypical and went with the one I did.

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Outtake 1

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Outtake 2

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Original entry.

Any thoughts?
08/21/2006 03:28:25 AM · #5
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08/21/2006 03:56:38 AM · #6
Not really an outtake, but my similar submission in past challenge -

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I tried to improve on it and ended up having this one for fireII -

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08/21/2006 03:57:26 AM · #7
I found a great corner at the motor racing for "flame shots", so had quite a selection to choose from for the challenge.

Here are two that I was considering, & in hind sight I should have probably gone with the tighter shot.

Would be interested in knowing everyones thoughts.

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08/21/2006 04:54:16 AM · #8
Originally posted by boomerakl:

I found a great corner at the motor racing for "flame shots", so had quite a selection to choose from for the challenge.

Here are two that I was considering, & in hind sight I should have probably gone with the tighter shot.


I prefer the tighter crop as it hilights the flames more and also I see the movement in the wheel better. Good on you for using a Kiwi driver :)
08/21/2006 05:07:18 AM · #9
left a comment for you Scotty
08/21/2006 06:18:17 AM · #10
Thanks for the comment Enzo.

Gerry - I'm a transplanted Kiwi - always supporting both Murph & Jason!

Cheers,
Scott
08/21/2006 06:21:18 AM · #11
This one was going to be my entry, but then I thought there would be a lot of fires in glasses.

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Opinions?
08/21/2006 12:13:02 PM · #12
I was really surprised at how many people didn't suspect these shots were double exposures. It was a lot of fun to do and took me to new technical tricks I'd never tried before (the slotted card).

The Entry:
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Two Outtakes:
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I really wanted to use the first as it sorta looked like I was conjuring fire from my fingers, and I liked the flames on the second (but there were exposure issues with that one I didn't like).
08/21/2006 12:23:42 PM · #13
i had these two ready in time, but didn't really like either of them enough to enter... maybe i second guessed myself too much... oh well..

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i think the first one would have worked well enough had i not gotten the line at the end of the glass through the flame...
08/21/2006 04:25:33 PM · #14
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

It was a lot of fun to do and took me to new technical tricks I'd never tried before (the slotted card).

The Entry:
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Can you elaborate on the slotted card a bit more as I am very interested in this technique. I tried something similar with my ill-fated entry where my wife covered the camera with a black t-shirt while I moved the match:

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08/21/2006 05:24:55 PM · #15
hey Jason, love your work and its good to see you found a 'safe' way to set fire to yourself. I'm just not into using my brain as much as others so took things a bit too literaly ....

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I think this would have scored better then my final entry, simply for the stupidity (oh, and thats another challenge it should have gone in).

No mirrors, double exposures or trickery - this was pure madness but I am recovering.

Message edited by author 2006-08-21 19:47:30.
08/21/2006 05:46:09 PM · #16
Originally posted by Nuzzer:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

It was a lot of fun to do and took me to new technical tricks I'd never tried before (the slotted card).

The Entry:
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Can you elaborate on the slotted card a bit more as I am very interested in this technique. I tried something similar with my ill-fated entry where my wife covered the camera with a black t-shirt while I moved the match:

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The slot technique is an attempt to attain a faster shutter speed than you could just by moving the black matboard yourself.

So a number of my shots use a double exposure technique. They are harder to do in digital because you, naturally, have to keep the shutter open the whole time. With old film bodies, you could expose twice on the same frame of film. That's not legal here in DPC world. So you wind up exposing a shot, covering the lens (with the shutter open), moving whatever needs to be moved, and then exposing the second half.

I used the slot here (which is basically a 1 cm slot cut like a long horizontal rectangle in a black piece of matboard about 15x6 (or whatever) so I could have the first "exposure" be a long faster than the second. I held the black matboard over the lens and opened the shutter. When the fire was behaving, I moved the slot across the lens as fast as I could. The exposure probably was close to 1/100th and allowed me to freeze the flame much more than if I were to try to remove the matboard and replace it entirely. Then, once the slot passed over the lens, I held the board over the lens and moved the fire while putting my hand in for the shot. That exposure was closer to 1 second so I just removed the matboard and replaced it. Voila. After some goofing around to get the best exposure, I had the shot you are looking at.
08/23/2006 03:51:15 AM · #17
Entry:
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Outtake:
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