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08/18/2006 08:51:55 AM · #51
Originally posted by amber:

Originally posted by karmabreeze:

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My understanding of the state of sex tourism and police corruption in Thailand is that holding someone on sex charges there is a sort of joke, like holding someone on a parking ticket. The Feds were very specific in requesting that the Thai Royal Police pick him up and it appears that he was held on some trumped up seatwarmer charges until they could get there themselves.

A confession alone doesn't mean much - all sorts of crazy attention seekers will claim credit for high profile crimes they didn't commit. But they've arrested Karr after three months of investigation, so something there must be strongly corroborative.


My experience here shows that holding someone on sex charges is taken very seriously...the ones caught where I live often end up suiciding themselves..if you get my meaning.


That's good to hear.
08/19/2006 06:07:09 AM · #52
I don't think that a ransom note left in the house is the least bit suspicious. My guess is that the killer broke into the house while the family was out and waited for them to return. He intended to leave a ransom note behind to give himself time to escape with the girl. He knew there would have been an all points bulletin put out by the police looking for the girl, and if he wanted to take the victim interstate this would have been his major problem. But if he could convince the Ramsey's not to call the police, even for 24 hours, his escape would have been assured.
Why did he write the note at the crime scene? Again, he knew that he could have been caught while breaking into the house. If he was found with a ransom note, what would have been a routine burglary charge would have turned into an attempted kidnapping charge. As a criminal he seems to have worked out his strategy quite well.
After the family came home he would have waited till lights out. He would have then gone to the girl's room and promised to give her some pineapple in the kitchen. While he was witing the note the child became suspicious so he took her to the basement and tied her up. After finishing the ransom note he returns to the basement to find that the child had choked. Unable to tell whether she was alive, the killer knew he could no longer take her with him, and coudn't leave her there in case she was still alive and could recognise him as a family friend so he killed her.
I'd say that Karr is our man. He seems to fit the above criteria. He even said that JonBenet's death was an accident, which in a way is true I suppose. I can't wait for the DNA results!

Message edited by author 2006-08-19 06:11:41.
08/19/2006 06:11:30 AM · #53
How did he know the husband had just receieved a bonus of 118,000? The exact amount in the note?

His ex wife, who hates him swears (although she's double checking) he was with her in Alabama that Christmas - hard to go missing at Christmas with a wife and three kids and have no one notice.

08/19/2006 06:15:29 AM · #54
I don't know where I was in Christmas 1996. The amount of the ransom is interesting. I can't say how he found out but he did. The ransom seems pretty low. But if the killer had set the ransom too high, the father would have known that he couldn't pay and therefore immediately called the police, who would have put out an all points bulletin. The killer wanted to be certain it was an amount he could pay and therefore get the necessary 24 hours escape time.
08/19/2006 06:20:47 AM · #55
Originally posted by leggion:

I don't know where I was in Christmas 1996. The amount of the ransom is interesting. I can't say how he found out but he did. The ransom seems pretty low. But if the killer had set the ransom too high, the father would have known that he couldn't pay and therefore immediately called the police, who would have put out an all points bulletin. The killer wanted to be certain it was an amount he could pay and therefore get the necessary 24 hours escape time.


As a parent I remember each and every christmas, as a child I would have been devastated if my father wasn't there.

Christmas 1996 - just back in the UK after 2 years in Malaysia - New house. The mortgage company insisted that one of the walls in the extension needed bricking up so the wallpaper was missing. My neice stayed on christmas eve. We had a buffet party with Wallace and Grommit paper table cloths...etc...

John Ramsey says he doesn't know this guy so Karr who was living in a completely different state with very little money would have to be psychic or have access to Ramsey's personal documents - I don't even know how much bonus my husband gets.

Message edited by author 2006-08-19 06:34:59.
08/19/2006 06:35:30 AM · #56
The killer probably hung around the house in the week or so leading up to the crime and stole from their mailbox - a letter, a bank statement, anything with $118,000 written on it.
08/19/2006 06:39:07 AM · #57
Until proven otherwise Karr was living miles away in another state. If you are speaking about another person...why bother looking in the mail box? Ramsey was a millionaire so money wasn't really a problem...asking for 118,000 for me is one of the red flags that something stinks to high hell.
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