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09/10/2003 03:50:12 PM · #1
I was just wondering if anyone here were slightly colorblind like me?

As you'll note from some of my critiques, if colors are complex or have subtle hues present, I usually comment on the 'tones' or on some other aspect of the photo. I also find that I'm attracted to darker photos in which the colors are richer.

I'm also wondering if I am a bit hypersensitive to shots in which the colors seem washed or hazy.

Fellow colorblinders! Unite!
09/10/2003 04:43:38 PM · #2
I personally am color blind in the 'pastel regions'. A good example for me is in my oops pic (//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=36066) I cannot see the color in her hair but was told (BY LOTS OF YA) that its there!

I CAN however see the lipstick of course, on her nose (where it was blown out) and the flowers under the phone pole.

Message edited by author 2003-09-10 16:45:09.
09/10/2003 05:08:53 PM · #3
Originally posted by toocool:

I personally am color blind in the 'pastel regions'. A good example for me is in my oops pic (//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=36066) I cannot see the color in her hair but was told (BY LOTS OF YA) that its there!

I CAN however see the lipstick of course, on her nose (where it was blown out) and the flowers under the phone pole.


You mean there's COLOR in her HAIR? No way.
09/10/2003 05:11:06 PM · #4
Her hair is pink :)
09/10/2003 05:11:28 PM · #5
Same as in the lipstick.

It's like your licorice pic, david. It's remnnants of the color that was there.
09/10/2003 05:11:50 PM · #6
LOL They tell me that her hair is pink. I can kinda see it in the print I made if I take it out in bright sunlight and don't look directly at the hair...

Message edited by author 2003-09-10 17:12:54.
09/10/2003 05:42:51 PM · #7
Originally posted by dsidwell:

I was just wondering if anyone here were slightly colorblind like me?

As you'll note from some of my critiques, if colors are complex or have subtle hues present, I usually comment on the 'tones' or on some other aspect of the photo. I also find that I'm attracted to darker photos in which the colors are richer.

I'm also wondering if I am a bit hypersensitive to shots in which the colors seem washed or hazy.

Fellow colorblinders! Unite!

I have one of the typical red-green defects; I usually have trouble distinguishing greens from browns or blues from purples. Interestingly, I had an aunt who was colorblind, which is very rare.
Also odd is that I've worked for over 20 years in graphics, including scanning photos and such. //dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=21992
09/10/2003 05:53:12 PM · #8
OK, here we go again. We have had earlier threads on this issue, but it pops up every now and then, in particular since about 10% of the male population has inherited some form of color deficient perception from their mothers. The mothers/women don't have this problem quite as often, since they have mostly at least one good chromosome.
It is in most cases a different way of perceiving colors, not the inability to see colors. As a consequence, so-called color blinds will confuse colors that look the same to them, and, depending on the deficiency, they can see differences in color where people with normal color perception would call these the same. A good explanation with animation can be found on //micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/humanvision/colorblindness/.
To comfort you, toocool, I don't see the color in the hair either, they are pulling your leg or my color deficiency is much worse than I suspected it to be.

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09/10/2003 06:56:21 PM · #9
In all honesty, and all leg pulling aside, there IS color in her hair...
09/10/2003 06:58:15 PM · #10
Color blindness or monitor calibration? lol ;)

Seeing what a colorblind person who see.

Message edited by author 2003-09-10 22:29:43.
09/10/2003 07:29:22 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:

//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=21992


Okay, I see the 70 in the top picture and the 57 (or 53?) in the bottom one, but there are NO numbers in right circles.

Message edited by author 2003-09-10 19:30:10.
09/10/2003 07:42:10 PM · #12
70?

it's
29 upper left.
57 lower left.
86 upper right.
75 lower right.

09/10/2003 07:50:02 PM · #13
Originally posted by dsidwell:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=21992


Okay, I see the 70 in the top picture and the 57 (or 53?) in the bottom one, but there are NO numbers in right circles.


I see the 70 and the 57 on the left, and the 86 and 75 on the right. OK, so I was looking through a red filter to see the numbers on the right. When I made //dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=35006, I had to use a long exposure and my camera had a lot of noise. I got rid of most of it with Dust & Scratches, but there were still a lot of blue dots, which I got rid of by reducing blue lightness in Hue/Saturation. If I had noticed the red dots that remained, I could have reduced red lightness to eliminate them as well. But I didn't notice them until I read people's comments...

Message edited by author 2003-09-10 19:53:16.
09/10/2003 08:15:44 PM · #14
Originally posted by dsidwell:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=21992


Okay, I see the 70 in the top picture and the 57 (or 53?) in the bottom one, but there are NO numbers in right circles.

I think that's what I see too. I'll have to get the book of plates out to see what it all means. They're very old, so the colors may have faded/shifted somewhat as well.
09/10/2003 09:13:39 PM · #15
O.K. I'm only submitting B&W from now on:) I see SOME color in her hair, All the shapes have numbers,quite clearly. but I cant achieve higher than a 5.7 on my submissions. It must be my equipment;)
09/10/2003 09:59:20 PM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by dsidwell:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=21992


Okay, I see the 70 in the top picture and the 57 (or 53?) in the bottom one, but there are NO numbers in right circles.

I think that's what I see too. I'll have to get the book of plates out to see what it all means. They're very old, so the colors may have faded/shifted somewhat as well.


Several of you have seen the "70" in the top left circle. There is no 70 anywhere. The top left is a 29. No 70. If you see the 70, then you have a problem.
09/10/2003 10:04:50 PM · #17
Don't forget, when I photographed this and adjusted it and changed color spaces and all that, it might not be entirely accurate, although from people's comments I must have gotten pretty close!
09/10/2003 10:11:31 PM · #18
Originally posted by mavrik:

70?

it's
29 upper left.
57 lower left.
86 upper right.
75 lower right.


Someone has to do it. And say it. Mavrik's right.

I've taken the original file and played around with desaturatation, levels and so on. The numbers are as Mavrik shows.

Here is the edited file.
portfolio_edit.php?IMAGE_ID=37308
09/10/2003 10:12:58 PM · #19
Why can't I get that link to show????
09/10/2003 10:14:59 PM · #20
Originally posted by mavrik:

70?

it's
29 upper left.
57 lower left.
86 upper right.
75 lower right.


That's what I see.

and pink streaks in the hair on the ooops challenge.
09/10/2003 10:30:31 PM · #21
Originally posted by faidoi:

Color blindness or monitor calibration? lol ;)

Seeing what a colorblind person who see.


Once you discover what type of colorblindness a person has, you can bring up a url address and see it the way that person will see it.

Message edited by author 2003-09-10 22:34:04.
09/10/2003 11:33:01 PM · #22
David, this reminds me of a good friend of 13 years. When I first visited his apartment in Essen, I was a bit dumbfounded to find almost everything there in either blue or yellow (i.e. the telephone - yellow, the clock - blue with yellow details, the sofa - ikea blue, the cupboard - maple yellow, the wallpaper - blue and yellow stripes... you get the idea). When I commented about the color scheme that made his apartment look like a Lufthansa lounge, that's when I found out that he couldn't make a disctinction between reds and greens. The stoplight, apparently for him, was just yellow, and two greys of differing intensities.

Don't get me wrong: that you are sensing images through a 'natural filter' makes your work even more amazing, and makes me appreciate them even more.
09/10/2003 11:38:30 PM · #23
Herb Lubalin [ITC fonts, Avante Garde mag, Sound of Music promo designer] was colorblind (as was his twin brother).
09/10/2003 11:48:04 PM · #24
This is kinda a funny story and one of the only times my color blindness (it's really subtle and doesn't affect my day to day events) came to the fore front.

My kids class went on a field trip to a local park. The park had several activities planned for the class so they split the class up into two groups to get everything done easier. The groups were denoted by blue and green "Hi my name is..." name tags. My kid was in the blue group. We were standing in our group waiting for the leader to take us to our activity when I asked Ian (my son) why some of our group was going off somewhere else.

He said "Dad, that's the green group!"

All the rest of the field trips that year were divided into blue and red groups!!! :-P
09/11/2003 12:21:28 AM · #25
Does that mean the new $20.00 bill is going to look funny.
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New design is coming out in October.


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