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07/18/2006 09:51:46 AM · #76 |
There are no rules which state only local people.
If they allow one vote per hour not per user then they have automatically set it up as popularity contest. Not to mention if it were a serious contest they would not unfairly bias user opinion by utilizing one of the entries for promotion. |
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07/18/2006 10:00:11 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Am I the only one who thinks this is cheating? Its a small town contest for a small town newspaper....
yeah, probably just me. |
Well, guess we were just "innocently" showing our support for our fellow DCPer.. :) |
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07/18/2006 10:07:18 AM · #78 |
| Decimal points from a win, Jude. |
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07/18/2006 10:15:32 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Am I the only one who thinks this is cheating? Its a small town contest for a small town newspaper....
yeah, probably just me. |
As long as Judy 'donates' 20 DPC memberships if she wins, this is just business as usual. No cheating... |
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07/18/2006 10:22:06 AM · #80 |
so we can vote once an hour?
if dpc helped you out, you could win easy
you have my vote
No. 1: Dave Duricy, Hamilton, OH 1.26% 13
No.2: Judy Pochard, Hamilton, OH 31.17% 322
No.3: Bob Stothfang, Hamilton, OH 31.85% 329
No.4: Paul Everhart, Hamilton, OH 6.29% 65
No.5: Teresa Robinson, Hamilton, OH 3.48% 36
No.6: Nate Patrick, Hamilton, OH 7.07% 73
No.7: Sean Lawrence, Middletown, OH 4.84% 50
No.8: Scott Grover, Alexandria, OH 2.71% 28
No.9: Mark Wilson, Cincinnati, OH 10.45% 108
No.10: Dawn Anderson, Hamilton, OH 0.87% 9
Message edited by author 2006-07-18 10:22:41.
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07/18/2006 11:05:01 AM · #81 |
| Shows the value of winning in a publicly voted photo contests. He who can herd the most votes from his online buddies is a better photographer. |
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07/18/2006 11:21:13 AM · #82 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Am I the only one who thinks this is cheating? Its a small town contest for a small town newspaper....
yeah, probably just me. |
No, Cindi, you're not the only one :) |
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07/18/2006 12:29:08 PM · #83 |
The thing that bothers me is that what if Judi wins, then finds out that Bob DIDN'T have a bunch of friends on a photo site voting to help him out...
Sometimes winning isn't everything.
I voted once honestly.
I preferred Bob's pic, but I preferred Judi's crop.
A similar crop on Bob's pic would have got my vote. I went for the closer version... |
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07/18/2006 01:05:25 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
The thing that bothers me is that what if Judi wins, then finds out that Bob DIDN'T have a bunch of friends on a photo site voting to help him out...
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None of his recent dpreview posts are soliciting votes so perhaps he's doing it privately. Hopefully the prize money will be a big enough sum to erase the memory of statements like "and I must admit, his photo is a tad better - nevertheless I voted for yours." :) |
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07/18/2006 01:12:06 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Am I the only one who thinks this is cheating? Its a small town contest for a small town newspaper....
yeah, probably just me. |
No, you aren't the only one. |
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07/18/2006 01:34:15 PM · #86 |
Voted for you. Thought your photo was the best.
And don't let other people's negativity get you down, if they don't like it they can just ignore it.
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07/18/2006 01:38:48 PM · #87 |
| Is there a different think where I can vote without signing up? |
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07/18/2006 01:40:53 PM · #88 |
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07/18/2006 01:43:25 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Is there a different think where I can vote without signing up? |
i just made up an email address and zip code ;)
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07/18/2006 01:58:15 PM · #90 |
I see where some people mentioned cheating....I guess I'm kind of stumped....the main reason being...what is the difference between someone asking people to vote (she said pick the best not neceesarily her) for a photo for a newspaper and asking people to vote for their dog pictures on other sites? (several on here on DPC have done this...and I do believe there was a prize involved.)
Does the winning prize make the difference? I don't think so...same principle .... different contest.
I voted....but I voted for the one I liked best...and it was a toss up between Judy and Bob IMO....and I voted for Judy.
Again...just curious...what is different between this one and others asking for a different contest? If the character flaw in question, is asking to vote...wouldn't it ALL be cheating?? :)
Maybe I'm missing something....(that has happened on more than one occasion! :)
Message edited by author 2006-07-18 14:04:23. |
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07/18/2006 02:30:38 PM · #91 |
Originally posted by jpochard:
If you have a minute, please go HERE and place your vote for your favorite photo. If it's mine, great, if not that's okay too.
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Judy |
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07/18/2006 03:07:44 PM · #92 |
Goodness....I had to be in the office today and looks like I missed a bit of conversation.
I agree with just about everything except that it is cheating. I don't like how the contest was set up at all. I don't believe it was set up from a photographer's point of view. But...I cannot change the fact that it has been done this way.
Also, you cannot vote any other way, so I'm assuming that probably what the Journal wants more than anything is a way to drive traffic to the site...which is what I'm doing. :)
There is no way for me to know what "Bob" is doing or not doing for his entry. I do know he seemed like a nice guy, and I was a nice photographer too - suggesting he share my vantage point (he didn't even know quite where the fireworks would be shot from).
All in all, it IS definitely a matter of who can drum up online votes - but that's the way it has been set up, which was not my choice. I also do believe that my photo is as good as any other photo there for various reasons. There are three shots that I think all would have a legitimate chance to win, and mine is one of them.
Also...I have done many photographs of my hometown and allowed usage of said photos for a lot of events - free of charge. Being a Realtor, I utilize my hobby as a way to promote the good things about my town.
So while I don't agree with how this contest is decided, I think I'd be at a distinct DISADVANTAGE if I didn't try to "herd" some votes. It does say you can vote once an hour, so I think they probably acknowledge that people will utilize as many votes as they can.
So thanks again for those who have shown support and even for those who question the request. People of integrity are one strong reason why I like this community. I don't question my own integrity in this case, but I respect your choice to do so. |
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07/18/2006 03:22:15 PM · #93 |
By the way...I just picked up today's newspaper. All 10 photos are published in color there along with this statement:
"Online voting began Monday - but if you've already voted, that's OK - this is one election where you can vote as many times as you want!"
Taken directly from a paragraph of about a dozen lines promoting the contest in the paper. I honestly think the paper is promoting multiple votes. |
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07/18/2006 04:04:26 PM · #94 |
I just voted again. Judy is down 408 to Bob with 439.
Edit (added): Considering that the next lowest number of votes was 163, I believe Bob has got some voters in his pocket as well. Otherwise this would have been a blow out. I say we give his community a run for their money.
And don't forget, Judy plans to use a little of the prize money to donate a year's subscription. Spread the love people!
Message edited by author 2006-07-18 16:11:55. |
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07/18/2006 04:16:15 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by jpochard:
By the way...I just picked up today's newspaper. All 10 photos are published in color there along with this statement:
"Online voting began Monday - but if you've already voted, that's OK - this is one election where you can vote as many times as you want!"
Taken directly from a paragraph of about a dozen lines promoting the contest in the paper. I honestly think the paper is promoting multiple votes. |
Hey you got your photo in the paper! |
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07/18/2006 04:50:19 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
Hey you got your photo in the paper! |
Yep...in color no less. I gotta get me that remote though. It still bugs me that the photo isn't sharp. Next year, they should have all the bridge construction surrounding the monument complete. You can see in the b/w competition shot, the bridge mess on the left.
It's a pretty bridge / water / monument shot when they have it cleared away. The mounument also used to be easy to shoot...no streetlights etc. right in front of it. We have a wide, nice looking High Street...the main drag through downtown - with the courthouse there and everything. You used to be able to look right down that main drag from maybe 2 miles away and it lead right to the monument. Very nice plan. Now, however, there are other statues in the middle of the street, plus streetlights, landscaping etc. that make it difficult to see clearly.
Gotta teach these folks how to think like a photographer :) |
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07/18/2006 07:10:13 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by colyla:
I see where some people mentioned cheating....I guess I'm kind of stumped....the main reason being...what is the difference between someone asking people to vote (she said pick the best not neceesarily her) for a photo for a newspaper and asking people to vote for their dog pictures on other sites? (several on here on DPC have done this...and I do believe there was a prize involved.)
Does the winning prize make the difference? I don't think so...same principle .... different contest.
I voted....but I voted for the one I liked best...and it was a toss up between Judy and Bob IMO....and I voted for Judy.
Again...just curious...what is different between this one and others asking for a different contest? If the character flaw in question, is asking to vote...wouldn't it ALL be cheating?? :)
Maybe I'm missing something....(that has happened on more than one occasion! :) |
I'm still waiting for anyone to explain this one to me... :)
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07/18/2006 07:17:42 PM · #98 |
Actually, Dave Duricy's one was my fav. I covered up the names when I was scrolling through them so I wouldn't be influenced... :)
edit: strangely enough, I didn't have to sign-up to vote, I went straight to the voting page and just voted (maybe it knows I'm outside the US so doesn't bother sending me to the sign-up page)
Message edited by author 2006-07-18 19:20:31. |
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07/18/2006 07:34:30 PM · #99 |
| There goes another one for you :D |
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07/18/2006 07:47:53 PM · #100 |
| You so owe me a buck if you place...;) |
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