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04/29/2002 02:56:25 AM · #1
'Constructive criticism and competition are more than welcome on the site. Slander or personal attacks may result in site suspension or loss of account.

Your comments go against the rules of this site. comments like 'cheesy' and 'lame' are poor enough without anything whatsoever contructive but comments like;
'FAT', 'DUMB' and 'DORK TO?' are personal attacks and deserve some action from Admin.
04/29/2002 04:55:07 AM · #2
i think he looks at all this from work and doesnt have time to type much more than what he does. his wife doesnt let him use the computer at home. none of you understand the ibanez, he's just trying to help. give peace a chance
04/29/2002 04:55:30 AM · #3
and eat more chikin
04/29/2002 05:05:38 AM · #4
Originally posted by vin rigby:
'Constructive criticism and competition are more than welcome on the site. Slander or personal attacks may result in site suspension or loss of account.

Your comments go against the rules of this site. comments like 'cheesy' and 'lame' are poor enough without anything whatsoever contructive but comments like;
'FAT', 'DUMB' and 'DORK TO?' are personal attacks and deserve some action from Admin.


My tattoo shot got the remark, "fake" from iban. I agree with van rigby, this site has an obligation to uphold on behalf of the several hundred members who do NOT abuse their privileges. It would be a shame to let a site like this go to waste.
04/29/2002 05:40:12 AM · #5
if you can pick and choose your citations, so can i.

quotes from iban:

Quittin' Time 4/25/2002
nice one

'49 4/25/2002
very original

From bud to bloom 4/25/2002
WOW, I NEVER SEEN A PIC LIKE THIS, IT"S AMAZING

The Chameleon 4/25/2002
nice
04/29/2002 07:10:21 AM · #6
Clay, below are the last 10 comments made by IBAN, you say that he is just trying to be helpful!!


Last 10 Comments Made...
Digital View 4/25/2002
transition from dork to ?

3 2 13 in a blink of the eye 4/25/2002
fat

Untitled #2 4/25/2002
eh

Even Trees Will Cry 4/25/2002
what???

Quittin' Time 4/25/2002
nice one

night time transformation 4/25/2002
dumb

'49 4/25/2002
very original

From bud to bloom 4/25/2002
WOW, I NEVER SEEN A PIC LIKE THIS, IT"S AMAZING

burn out 4/25/2002
redneck city


The Chameleon 4/25/2002
nice

04/29/2002 07:18:29 AM · #7
Originally posted by clay:
if you can pick and choose your citations, so can i.

quotes from iban:

From bud to bloom 4/25/2002
WOW, I NEVER SEEN A PIC LIKE THIS, IT"S AMAZING


Don't know that picking the sarcastic ones is really helping your point much...

04/29/2002 07:21:24 AM · #8
Vin,

I don't think you should spend so much time on this issue. Your photography is excellent. I think I may be the only one here who understands that you are giving these people exactly what they want from you. Their objective is to anger you. They are very happy now...
04/29/2002 07:40:18 AM · #9
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Vin,

I don't think you should spend so much time on this issue. Your photography is excellent. I think I may be the only one here who understands that you are giving these people exactly what they want from you. Their objective is to anger you. They are very happy now...


Yep, I agree with what your saying but you can only ignore so much, my concern is that decent people may be being put off this site - personal attacks cannot be ignored. If these people are not challenged things will escalate. My original post requested Admin deliberation. I will say no more.

Vin
04/29/2002 07:44:33 AM · #10
I feel that if people are not challenged and not given the satisfaction of the argument, they will go away on their own because the will be bored.
04/29/2002 08:20:12 AM · #11
Originally posted by vin rigby:
'Constructive criticism and competition are more than welcome on the site. Slander or personal attacks may result in site suspension or loss of account.

Your comments go against the rules of this site. comments like 'cheesy' and 'lame' are poor enough without anything whatsoever contructive but comments like;
'FAT', 'DUMB' and 'DORK TO?' are personal attacks and deserve some action from Admin.


I totally agree with you. Even though I don't believe IBAN has targeted myself personally, it angers me to see him put "fat" as his comment on the 3 to 13 photo. That young lady is someone's child and there is no sense in him taking potshots at her. I think the admins need to take a look at this also.
04/29/2002 08:30:34 AM · #12
Originally posted by shortredneck:
I think the admins need to take a look at this also.

Iban has been suspended until the end of May (since last night actually). He had been told to watch the unncessary comments last challenge, and has since continued.
04/29/2002 08:31:35 AM · #13
Between Iban's comments and Clay's attempts at combative arguments in the forums, I have definitely found I don't enjoy the site as much I used to.
04/29/2002 08:31:56 AM · #14
I know some people say *FAT* not as in size but as AWESOME or to show they like something and that it's so cool.

I don't like the rude comments and think respect and tact would be the way to critique something.
04/29/2002 08:38:17 AM · #15
but that would be spelled "phat"
04/29/2002 09:11:16 AM · #16
Thanks Langdon. As usual, you and Drew show a lot of class.
04/29/2002 09:14:46 AM · #17
Originally posted by debcard:
Between Iban's comments and Clay's attempts at combative arguments in the forums, I have definitely found I don't enjoy the site as much I used to.


me too, and I like humor when properly used



* This message has been edited by the author on 4/29/2002 9:15:59 AM.
04/29/2002 09:21:50 AM · #18
I agree. Sometimes I'm afraid to post something in anticipation of the type of comments that will be posted in reaction to my posts.
04/29/2002 11:53:20 AM · #19
Gee sounds like maybe he used one of these comments on my latest pics.

4/29/2002 (7:47:26 AM) - hey tubbie lose some weight!!!!

4/29/2002 (12:29:10 AM) - Oh shit hes fat!

I mean really. If you aren't gonna leave something constructive, why be such a child?
04/29/2002 12:10:57 PM · #20
He got banned so it is someone else acting like a jerk.
04/29/2002 12:49:03 PM · #21
I am a man of few words here people. I don't have time to write a paragraph for each pic that I rate. The art critic has always been a hated person in the art community when he gives a bad review. If you don't like my review, don't bother to read it.

As per the "fat" one, it was meant as a compliment, I gave it a high score (7 or 8, can't remember).

You people need to chill out, just because I liked very few of the images in this contest doesn't mean that I am a horrible person. The main problem with this challenge was the fact that everyone had the same lame ideas with flowers, graves, and weddings. 75% of my scores go toward originality, and if you can't accept that, then you aren't real artists.

Here's a little bit of advice to get a higher rating and no "lame, boring, non-original" comment from me. When you see the topic of a challenge, don't go take a picture of the first thing that pops into your head, if you do, there will be about 80 duplicate pictures in the challenge. The only way I would give a high score to a pic like that is if it was (in my opinion) very different. For instance, there were quite a few pics of ugly dirty stoplights with horrible backgrounds and very bland. There was one pic of a stoplight which had a completely different look than all of the others and wasn't a standard looking stoplight, that one I gave a very high score.

Just get over it already, I do realize that a lot of you are very new to the art scene and aren't used to critisism that doesn't explain everything thats good or bad about your work, but you are going to have to get used to it. You don't see Roger Ebert getting banned from TV when he gives a movie a thumbs down rating and just said that it was "horrible", which I have seen a few times.

Love you all,
iban
04/29/2002 12:53:51 PM · #22
Roger Ebert's critiques aren't perceived as insulting... sorry Charlie.. better luck next time...
04/29/2002 12:55:01 PM · #23
you didn't see his review of "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure".
04/29/2002 12:55:47 PM · #24
Well, as a long time internet user (7 years, when prodigy was the boss!!!) I can tell you this.

1) Lamers are forever, especially persistant ones that get new email accounts, nicknames , etc to continue the hate.

2) Like a rash, leave it alone and it will fade away.

Best way to admin a site is to give one warning and then a ban. The internet and message forums are too easy a target for nimrods to show tolerance.
04/29/2002 12:56:58 PM · #25
Originally posted by iban:
you didn't see his review of "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure".

Dude... that was my favorite movie...

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