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08/16/2006 05:36:45 PM · #176 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
LOL, I know exactly how that guy feels. Reminds me a lot of my days editting photos and doing page layouts for newspapers on Mac G3s. |
I saw that a couple of years ago. Hilarious!
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08/16/2006 06:23:38 PM · #177 |
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08/16/2006 06:25:01 PM · #178 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Originally posted by ursula:
20-inch iMac (2GHz Intel Core Duo), with extra RAM (2 GB) - and a Spyder for calibration. |
Awesome, you'll love it!
Get a .mac account and give iWeb a try. Basic stuff but it works very well.
You can check out the family site if you want. It was done with iWeb.
//www.scarbrough.cc
The whole iLife package is very good. Garage Band is a lot of fun, even if you don'tplay an instrument. The loops can be arranged to make up stuff. |
Thank you. I'll look into it. |
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08/16/2006 06:26:19 PM · #179 |
LMAO
lickmysweaty.com
To funny ....
Still LOL |
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08/16/2006 06:45:13 PM · #180 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Louis:
Apple was using grey-market capacitors on their motherboards that simply melted down over time, rendering the machine unusable. |
They weren't grey market, nor was it an Apple problem. Many PC manufacturers faced the same problem. |
I did not know that; thank you for the article. (I still like Apple-bashing though.;) |
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08/16/2006 11:49:11 PM · #181 |
Anyone here use linux? If so, what distro are you using? I've been thinking about loading up Ubuntu onto my new Dell since I mostly use open-source software that will run on linux anyway. Any suggestions?
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08/16/2006 11:56:51 PM · #182 |
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
Anyone here use linux? If so, what distro are you using? I've been thinking about loading up Ubuntu onto my new Dell since I mostly use open-source software that will run on linux anyway. Any suggestions? |
I went through a lot of distros on my notebook. I settled on Ubuntu. It's been running for three weeks straight now without a reboot.
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08/17/2006 05:30:22 AM · #183 |
| as old as the internet itself ;) |
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08/17/2006 09:49:11 AM · #184 |
My Mac experience has been a little like that guy in the video. Not good. Not smooth.
I'd even go as far as to say that the whole Mac thing is kinda like The "Emperors New Clothes" and any one who loves their Mac is just dreaming that they are having a good time. I'm half-way kidding about that but I think I might be correct in my assumption.
I find PC's by far....by far more intuitive and outside of that crappy virus vulnerability, thang, possibly superior to thr Mac. You can do EVERYTHING just as easily on a PC and if there's a 1/2 move extra to perform a task(which there isn't)big freakin deal.
I always enjoy going to the Mac Store and watching "The Mac Genius's" scratch their heads over some problem I bring them but fortunately for them (and me)there's always one dude who actually know's WTF's going on and they all get a little impromptu tutorial, thanx to me.
I could be wrong about all of ths but my experience hasn't been great and simply trying to burn a DVD the other night and failing with two big time Mac-Heads by my side would be testimony enough. I wish I had a video of that....
Message edited by author 2006-08-17 10:18:06. |
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08/18/2006 12:04:31 AM · #185 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
Anyone here use linux? If so, what distro are you using? I've been thinking about loading up Ubuntu onto my new Dell since I mostly use open-source software that will run on linux anyway. Any suggestions? |
I went through a lot of distros on my notebook. I settled on Ubuntu. It's been running for three weeks straight now without a reboot. |
I've been looking into ubunto seriously for a few days. How's the windowing system? Do you prefer Gnome over KDE? Any significant differences between the two? (I'm not too familiar with either, I've just gathered from the net that KDE uses more system resources).
I also read somewhere that to install linux on my harddrive I'll have to partition it. Does that mean I have to do a clean wipe? Or is it just similar to the Defragging process? I plan on keeping windows and using both OS's. In my understanding, I need to partition it to "set aside" some space for the OS. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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08/18/2006 03:06:15 AM · #186 |
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
I plan on keeping windows and using both OS's. In my understanding, I need to partition it to "set aside" some space for the OS. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
You're not wrong.
partitioning the drive is one of the first steps towards installing a new OS. An alternative would be to install a second drive and use a boot loader to switch to it to boot from.
Partitioning is generally destructive, although a program like Partition Magic can do it on the fly, I wouldn't be happy using it on my main machine. |
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08/19/2006 06:06:25 PM · #187 |
Originally posted by mist:
Partitioning is generally destructive, although a program like Partition Magic can do it on the fly, I wouldn't be happy using it on my main machine. |
Can you expound on this statement? What's so destructive about partitioning? Should this be a big concern?
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08/19/2006 06:13:15 PM · #188 |
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
Originally posted by mist:
Partitioning is generally destructive, although a program like Partition Magic can do it on the fly, I wouldn't be happy using it on my main machine. |
Can you expound on this statement? What's so destructive about partitioning? Should this be a big concern? |
Sorry, probably used a term that wouldn't have much meaning. When I say "destructive" I mean in terms of what is on the drive at the moment. If you were, for example, to try to set up a second OS on your machine, and, as part of the install process, you split your current one partition into two, then all the data on your one partition would be gone. You'd also need to format both partitions. (But the contents would be lost at the time of partitioning).
So, if you decide to do that, make sure you back up your existing stuff first.
As to your question of if it should be a big concern, that really depends how much you have on your computer at the moment, how much of it you want to keep, and what options you have for off-disk backups.
Also, some third-party programs can resize, split or otherwise do stuff to partitions without destroying the contents, but sometimes this isn't possible. |
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08/19/2006 06:17:02 PM · #189 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
I tried to configure similar similar Macs and PCs to prove the pricing thing, but it's a little tough. True, you can get a PC for $400, but it's bare-bones obsolete technology. An old used Mac could smoke it for the same price.
A new Apple Mini is $576 including a choice of several free printers. I can get a 19" LCD monitor, mouse and keyboard for about $160- a total of $736. Dell's cheapest Intel Core-based desktop is the Dimension E-510, currently priced 19% off at $649, and includes a free upgrade to a 17" LCD monitor. The processor is a Core Duo (vs. Core Solo on the Mini), but RAM, HD and Combo drive are the same. Want the full pro-version OS on a CD? Oh, that's another $129. Want a Printer, Speaker, WiFi, Bluetooth, Remote? All standard on the Mac and optional on the PC. What about iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie, iWeb, GarageBand... dive right in on the Mac, happy shopping on the PC. Let's not forget the anti-virus software- another PC expense that's moot on the Mac. What about service? Apple's customer support is rated at the top, Dell's is at or near the bottom.
So that's $736 for the Mac and $778 for the Dell, which has a dual core processor, BUT a smaller monitor, no printer, no wireless, no bluetooth, no speaker, no remote, no sophisticated media apps, and much more security risks. Such a deal. :-/
Compare similar hardware and software across the board, and Apple comes out competitive or cheaper... sometimes MUCH cheaper (compare a high-end Woodcrest-based desktop system). |
Ok, a few things. You have a valid point with the Mini, quite a deal indeed (especially with the dual core processor). I'll give you that much.
But what about laptops? You can pick up an entry-level PC notebook for less than $500. Apple has a much more limited selection with nothing under $1000. So while the Mini exists for an entry-level desktop, if someone wants a notebook for basic tasks like email, word processing, etc. on the go then PC is still the way to go. If viruses/security is a concern, then Linux can simply be installed for a faster, more stable system that seems to be quite similar to Mac OS (both unix-derived).
Oh, I'll give you one other thing. Mac's are much more elegant and visually appealing.
Message edited by author 2006-08-19 18:24:41.
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08/19/2006 06:22:20 PM · #190 |
Originally posted by mist:
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
Originally posted by mist:
Partitioning is generally destructive, although a program like Partition Magic can do it on the fly, I wouldn't be happy using it on my main machine. |
Can you expound on this statement? What's so destructive about partitioning? Should this be a big concern? |
Sorry, probably used a term that wouldn't have much meaning. When I say "destructive" I mean in terms of what is on the drive at the moment. If you were, for example, to try to set up a second OS on your machine, and, as part of the install process, you split your current one partition into two, then all the data on your one partition would be gone. You'd also need to format both partitions. (But the contents would be lost at the time of partitioning).
So, if you decide to do that, make sure you back up your existing stuff first.
As to your question of if it should be a big concern, that really depends how much you have on your computer at the moment, how much of it you want to keep, and what options you have for off-disk backups.
Also, some third-party programs can resize, split or otherwise do stuff to partitions without destroying the contents, but sometimes this isn't possible. |
I read somewhere that as long as the harddrive is defragged first, it shouldn't be a big concern. Then the data isn't scattered all over the HD in non-contiguous sectors.
ETA: I'm going to be installing it on a brand new PC that is shipping right now. So I won't have any data to lose.
Message edited by author 2006-08-19 18:44:00.
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08/19/2006 07:09:18 PM · #191 |
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
But what about laptops? You can pick up an entry-level PC notebook for less than $500. |
Fair enough. Apple doesn't sell obsolete technology as an "entry level" option, but you can pick up a used iBook for $500 and have essentially the same thing. If you configure Dell's cheapest Core Duo laptop (the e1405) exactly the same as Apple's cheapest MacBook (same processor, HD, combo drive, RAM, pro OS, basic media software, etc.) the price is $1090. The MacBook lists at $1099 (not counting rebates available from several retailers), and you can get a free printer with it. If you're a college student or teacher, it's even cheaper- and includes a free 2GB iPod Nano. The whole "Macs are expensive" thing is a myth. |
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08/19/2006 07:34:19 PM · #192 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
The whole "Macs are expensive" thing is a myth. |
I guess you really do get what you pay for, but I think my point is that some don't need a fully decked-out system, yet still wouldn't want to settle on a used machine. Not that a used machine is inferior, but it's not for everyone.
Anyway, I just wish Apple had more of a selection when it came to hardware. But I suppose the reason they don't is that they don't sell hardware with "obsolete technology," like you said.
Message edited by author 2006-08-19 19:36:17.
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08/19/2006 08:08:29 PM · #193 |
Originally posted by chaimelle:
Good general info. I will finish looking at it in a minute. How about actual users? Any "I bought a mac and would not go back to a pc because..." testimonials? |
Well, I bought a mac (2 months ago) and would not go back to a PC because I like the OS better... and my stuff just works. I have a new macbook and love it. Everything works, all my software loaded up fine, and the screen is great. My only nit pick or issue I'm having is with displaying photos here on DPC and online in general. Things on my monitor just look better, have more clarity, and the light/shadows are just a tad different. Because of that, I've gotten a couple comments on my photos about darkness/contrast ect... which of course look fine to me. But, when I looked at them on a PC, I could see what those commenters are talking about... so I'm still trying to figure out how to accomodate the way an image might look to other users.
On the other hand, this hasn't been a problem when having prints of my photos made- I've found that what I get is much more true (colors, contrast etc...) to what I see on my mac screen, which with my previous PC I was always kind of taking a leap of faith and hoping the print would come out as close as expected.
Still learning myself, but I've used both mac and PC for about 11 years and for home, I really prefer mac... I don't have a choice at work;)
Message edited by author 2006-08-19 20:14:15. |
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08/20/2006 03:50:32 AM · #194 |
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
I read somewhere that as long as the harddrive is defragged first, it shouldn't be a big concern. Then the data isn't scattered all over the HD in non-contiguous sectors.
ETA: I'm going to be installing it on a brand new PC that is shipping right now. So I won't have any data to lose. |
On a new PC it's nothing to worry about, enjoy.
On an existing one, if you were going to use software that splits partitions without destroying data, it'd probably help out to defragment the drive first, yes. |
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