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07/08/2006 04:28:30 PM · #1
Anyone familiar with both? I have heard mac is better for photo processing and graphic design, and would like to know what is better about mac. (Specific comparisons would be most helpful, as I have never used a mac.)

Sorry if there have been other threads on this--I couldn't fine one.
07/08/2006 04:36:37 PM · #2
Try this.
07/08/2006 04:41:27 PM · #3
Good general info. I will finish looking at it in a minute. How about actual users? Any "I bought a mac and would not go back to a pc because..." testimonials?
07/08/2006 04:43:23 PM · #4
Originally posted by zeuszen:

Try this.

'Buy a Mac because it runs Windows' - what a great pitch. :-)
07/08/2006 04:45:13 PM · #5
Or, try this.

Message edited by author 2006-07-08 16:46:07.
07/08/2006 04:45:39 PM · #6
you are crazy... to start a thread with this title... you're asking for a war ;)

but today I think Mac is the best buy, not because the hardware is any better, or the software is any better, but because the new mac can run both windows XP and Mac OS-X, so you can use all your windows programs, and switch to mac OS when you need the security and stable OS the mac gives.

I have both a Mac and a PC running, I do all my photoediting on the mac, I tried on my PC but always when I used filters like gaussian blur on very big images the PC froze and I lost my work.

that does NOT happen on a mac, if the program encounters some serious problem it usually gives you the oppertunity to save your work before closing, but even that happens very rarely... like once a year ;)

if you're looking for a laptop the macbook pro is a great choise, it's very similar to the best Dell, but it's cheaper and it runs mac OS-X along with windows.

if you want a desktop then it's the iMac, great machine, and if you need a workhorse then you'll just have to wait until the new mac pro is announced at WWDC ;)

when comparing mac to a PC then you must compare to the best PC's, like top of the line DELL, IBM and other labels were you get the computer assembled with ingredients from one manufacturer, you can't buy budget stuff on sale and put it together and compare to mac.

Message edited by author 2006-07-08 16:50:26.
07/08/2006 04:50:19 PM · #7
Originally posted by breadfan35:

Or, try this.


Oh man, this one might go down fast.

Like name that tune, "I can "rant" this thread in 4 posts!"
07/08/2006 04:51:42 PM · #8
I will let others get into the details, those are fairly easy. About 7 months ago, I made the switch from a 10 year PC user to a Mac. And honestly....I would NEVER NEVER NEVER go back to a PC. Macs are simple, clean, run very smoothly and just a pleasure. Never have to worry again. Also, I don't even have the best system in terms of RAM and the new processors. Go Mac, is my advice, and not even biased, just true.
07/08/2006 04:55:41 PM · #9
Originally posted by breadfan35:

Or, try this.


Not sure what to think of that.

DanSig, not trying to start a war! Just need to know enough to decide wheher a mac is worth looking into. My laptop is an upper mid range Toshiba, although it is 2 years old. I have gotten somewhaat familiar with CS2 and hate to abandon it!
07/08/2006 04:57:22 PM · #10
Originally posted by Cutter:

I will let others get into the details, those are fairly easy. About 7 months ago, I made the switch from a 10 year PC user to a Mac. And honestly....I would NEVER NEVER NEVER go back to a PC. Macs are simple, clean, run very smoothly and just a pleasure. Never have to worry again. Also, I don't even have the best system in terms of RAM and the new processors. Go Mac, is my advice, and not even biased, just true.


How about internet usage? Do you view sites the same way, and is it easy to upload onto DPC?
07/08/2006 04:59:31 PM · #11
Oh of course..Everything like that is the same basically. But to answer straight, the internet usage is the same and the viewing is the exact same. You can use the Mac program Safari (all i use) or download things like Firefox just like PC. No crashing with Safari though. Unlike Explorer.....
07/08/2006 05:03:49 PM · #12
My last experience with Macs was in a newspaper newsroom running Photoshop 6 and Quark 4 and Microsoft Word on then-new G3 Macs with MacOS9. They were the most crash-proned POS's I've ever worked with. A real pain when you are working against a deadline getting photos placed on a page. I learned to save after every step I took.

I've never in my life had a Windows machine that crash-proned. But, anyway... I'm talking about now-ancient Macs. So, I suppose my experience is as out-dated as those machines.
07/08/2006 05:05:23 PM · #13
One thing to consider is how much of your software you'll have to re-purchase for the Mac.

For example, if you have CS2 on your PC, will you want to spend the money again getting the Mac version?

Of course, as DanSig mentioned, the latest Macs run on Intel chips. Which basically means you can make them boot into WinXP if you really need to. (If you intend to install WinXP on your mac, remember to factor in the cost of buying a WinXP CD)

The "PC or Mac" question really becomes "WinXP or OSX ?"
07/08/2006 05:12:05 PM · #14
here's my opinion... i have a 15" macbook pro (replaced my 4-year old powerbook)... and while i enjoy its general speed over my powerbook, i will say that i have some crashing issues with adobe products on the macbook. not to get too technical, but the new macbooks have an intel processor, and the adobe cs2 and previous adobe products were made for the power pc processors... so the adobe programs don't run "native" on the macbooks, they run on another platform thingie called rosetta. in rosetta, the adobe products don't process as quickly as they would if they ran native... and they tend to crash every now and then. (but it's weird... i'll have photoshop and illustrator open, and i'll be working in photoshop, and then up pops an error window that says illustrator crashed. rarely will the program i'm working in crash.) last i heard, the new intel version of adobe cs would be released in early 2007.

i do have a mac g5 desktop at work that hardly EVER crashes. (it has the old power pc processor.) it's very fast and reliable. much more so than the hp pc that sits next to it. (i get to use both at my job.)

if you need more testimonial info, let me know.
07/08/2006 05:17:37 PM · #15
I don't remember who bashed me last time this thread was started but it got me pretty riled up. I will say I have been looking at the MAC(INTELS) Notebooks Price point I would have to spend almost double for a PC Notebook with the same hardware and the benifit of being able to run XP is nice since until universal comes out your screwed on software( speed wise ) You can run rosetta but its slow. That being said you could buy a intel based PC notebook and run tiger X on it the same as running on a mac with the same hardware. So look more at the components and software your wanting to run than the hardware. Not much difference anymore. (Since Mac moved towards Intel) SNicker from the PC guys
07/08/2006 05:21:24 PM · #16
It seems that post processing would be pretty much the same, but creating projects using the photos is easier, using the internet is safer (from viruses), and it's easier to create web pages.
07/08/2006 05:21:56 PM · #17
I think I like Ford's Better than Chevy's .......

Oooppppps wrong thread ;)

So far the windows programs are not completely efficient on the Mac windows emulator. Software is the key, do you really want to start over? If you own a Canon with several expensive lenses would you really want to change to Nikon and start all over again. Ooops wrong thread again.

Actually I like New York Strip better than T-Bone steak .... damn, wrong thread again ....
07/08/2006 05:26:45 PM · #18
"If you own a Canon with several expensive lenses would you really want to change to Nikon and start all over again"

Maybe, if I could take better photos and the Nikon was easier to use.

(A little off topic, but not supporting Bill Gates would be a huge benefit IMO)

07/08/2006 05:32:04 PM · #19
Originally posted by chaimelle:

(A little off topic, but not supporting Bill Gates would be a huge benefit IMO)

I don't know what people have against Bill Gates.

From that viewpoint, moving from PC to Mac means you're just filling up a different rich businessman's bank account.

Or do you prefer Steve Jobs for some other reason? :)
07/08/2006 05:40:25 PM · #20
My problem with Bill Gates is that he overcharges for his software and won't admit his business is a monopoly. If I buy a pc and want to run any type of decent software I have to buy Windows. If I want to create documents and share them with anybody else, I have to buy MS Office. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but when you have pretty much cornered the market it would be nice to admit it and not take such HUGE advantage of it!
07/08/2006 05:45:35 PM · #21
Originally posted by chaimelle:

If I buy a pc and want to run any type of decent software I have to buy Windows.


OK, yes you have to run Windows, if you want to run the majority of software out there, but I blame other companies for not supporting Linux or BSD.

Originally posted by chaimelle:

If I want to create documents and share them with anybody else, I have to buy MS Office.


Not exactly true. OpenOffice.org reads and writes Microsoft Office files and new industry-standard XML based files. And, it's free.
07/08/2006 05:47:45 PM · #22
Originally posted by chaimelle:

My problem with Bill Gates is that he overcharges for his software and won't admit his business is a monopoly. If I buy a pc and want to run any type of decent software I have to buy Windows. If I want to create documents and share them with anybody else, I have to buy MS Office. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but when you have pretty much cornered the market it would be nice to admit it and not take such HUGE advantage of it!


As an experienced software developer, I would tend to disagree with most of that.
07/08/2006 05:52:54 PM · #23
Originally posted by chaimelle:

My problem with Bill Gates is that he overcharges for his software and won't admit his business is a monopoly. If I buy a pc and want to run any type of decent software I have to buy Windows. If I want to create documents and share them with anybody else, I have to buy MS Office. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but when you have pretty much cornered the market it would be nice to admit it and not take such HUGE advantage of it!


Not quite true.. you can run BeOs and Linux on PCs.
Macs have a "monopoly" in the same sense as OSX is really the only Mac specific OS out there (as windows is for PC).
You can run Windows on a Mac, but only because Windows is such a huge market share that people pretty much *need* to run it, and so it was made so.. if the demand for OSX on a PC was as large, it would be available.

All major companies have problems.. I don't think it's extremely smart, in the end, to base your purchasing on personal feelings about a company's CEO/Owner/whatever.

In the end, you'll go with what works best for you. You sound like you're just trying to get people to convince you to go with something you already want anyway.
07/08/2006 05:56:58 PM · #24
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by chaimelle:

My problem with Bill Gates is that he overcharges for his software and won't admit his business is a monopoly. If I buy a pc and want to run any type of decent software I have to buy Windows. If I want to create documents and share them with anybody else, I have to buy MS Office. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but when you have pretty much cornered the market it would be nice to admit it and not take such HUGE advantage of it!


As an experienced software developer, I would tend to disagree with most of that.


Not sure what you disagree with--people hate Exxon for "over charging" for gas and I don't even have to buy Exxon to make my car run, yet Billy can become a billionaire and we are supposed to be grateful that he exists. Will you at least agree that he pretty much has a monopoly?

I haven't had to buy a MS product in several years. I do know that prices then seemed very high. Also, in the corporate world, it almost cost more to get the software licenses than the equipment.
07/08/2006 05:58:14 PM · #25
One bonus to a Mac is that when you loosen the cover to work on the inside (which you never have to do unless you want to put in more RAM) the cover wont' slip off and smash your toe and turn it all shades of blue & purple and force you to burn a hole in your toenail to relieve the pressure...... (my brother and his damn PC cover screws!)

Why? Mac towers have a neato little latch mechanism and you don't even have to move it to open it! Plus you probably arent' stupid enough in the first place to try to relocate a PC with it's cover not fastened!!
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