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06/26/2006 01:32:31 PM · #1 |
As a long time member of this site I've witnessed a serious decline in the quality and number of comments being made in challenges. And I asked myself WHY?
After much thought, I've identified a few areas where this problem began. The most significant has been the forums. Traditionally, the site has tried very hard to allow everyone to say what they think without impediment. I think freedom of speech is crucial, but I also think that with that, we've neglected to enforce any rules of politeness and decorum.
So I humbly suggest to all who are pissed off at the "voters", ie. the rest of us nitwits who don't "get" your vision of the challenge, either
a) get over it! it happens to everyone and its just a score and a virtual ribbon
OR, if you MUST say something, be constructive and polite. Be tolerant of alternative views, even if you think they are garbage. Try to understand where the commenter is coming from before you compose your vitriol and unleash it upon the site.
There is always more than one way to say something, and I urge all users to think about that before they post.
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06/26/2006 01:34:51 PM · #2 |
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06/26/2006 01:36:01 PM · #3 |
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06/26/2006 01:38:12 PM · #4 |
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06/26/2006 01:39:49 PM · #5 |
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06/26/2006 01:39:56 PM · #6 |
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06/26/2006 01:40:10 PM · #7 |
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06/26/2006 01:40:33 PM · #8 |
Even though my finger is on the refresh button when I am on-line, and see points going up and down... and even I am new here (kind of), I am having blast... It is fun and exciting... When points drop a few notch, I go "oh man", but that's it... if they go up I go "yesss"...
We all play lottery, and buy 1 dollar dream each time, most likely know we won't hit anything... The time we own the lottery ticket is the most exciting time for us to dream and have fun...
Probably my sample wasn't good enough, but what I wanted to say is that "have fun with it" :) with your challenge photos I mean :) |
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06/26/2006 01:44:07 PM · #9 |
can I complain about voters as long as I don't mention specific voters? :)
p.s. I never complain about commentors. I praise commentors for bravely revealing the flaws in the voters! :)
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06/26/2006 01:44:25 PM · #10 |
| So how can we make sure EVERYONE see's this message. :-) Well said! |
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06/26/2006 01:46:13 PM · #11 |
I have been guilty of this and I want to change my ways!
Hear Hear frisca! |
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06/26/2006 01:54:24 PM · #12 |
What is the point in complaining about anything... commentators, voters, etc, etc? We're all here to have a good time and learn from each other. I think we all have enough stuff in everyday life to complain about without the need to come here and do something that we enjoy, only to have more complaints and bs that I know I'd rather not deal with. The same can also be said for the 'flaming and overall negative attitudes... WHAT'S THE POINT?
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06/26/2006 01:56:06 PM · #13 |
| Very well put! Threads that start out "I don't want to be rude, but how did this shot ribbon and mine didn't?" are a bit overzealous and vindictive. Everybody has shots that they really love that don't do as well as expected, just accept it and move on. |
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06/26/2006 01:58:41 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by otisXmike:
What is the point in complaining about anything... commentators, voters, etc, etc? We're all here to have a good time and learn from each other. I think we all have enough stuff in everyday life to complain about without the need to come here and do something that we enjoy, only to have more complaints and bs that I know I'd rather not deal with. The same can also be said for the 'flaming and overall negative attitudes... WHAT'S THE POINT? |
I agree with your sentiment. Personally, I think it's the competitor that resides in many of us that pushes buttons generating spur of the moment forum postings. Generally over time the skin thickens and it becomes a much happier, smoother ride. ;^) |
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06/26/2006 02:14:34 PM · #15 |
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06/26/2006 02:25:45 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by frisca:
As a long time member of this site I've witnessed a serious decline in the quality and number of comments being made in challenges. And I asked myself WHY?
After much thought, I've identified a few areas where this problem began. The most significant has been the forums. Traditionally, the site has tried very hard to allow everyone to say what they think without impediment. I think freedom of speech is crucial, but I also think that with that, we've neglected to enforce any rules of politeness and decorum.
So I humbly suggest to all who are pissed off at the "voters", ie. the rest of us nitwits who don't "get" your vision of the challenge, either
a) get over it! it happens to everyone and its just a score and a virtual ribbon
OR, if you MUST say something, be constructive and polite. Be tolerant of alternative views, even if you think they are garbage. Try to understand where the commenter is coming from before you compose your vitriol and unleash it upon the site.
There is always more than one way to say something, and I urge all users to think about that before they post. |
What?? Blasphemy!
Tasteless whining and complaining is a fundamental right of everyone regardless of race, creed, country of national origin or the color of thier oversaturated images.
Repression of tasteless whining and complaining is the first step in the inexhorable march toward totalitarianism.
Whiners Unite! Fight the injustice!
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06/26/2006 02:27:23 PM · #17 |
frisca...
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 14:28:17. |
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06/26/2006 02:33:11 PM · #18 |
| how can you say that? my very happiness depends on the love and acceptance of a bunch of people on the web that i don't know and will never meet. by the way this is totally normal and does not mean that i need to get a life.... |
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06/26/2006 05:01:43 PM · #19 |
This deserves a bump
ETA: This thread goes well with this one!
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 17:04:38.
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06/26/2006 05:04:44 PM · #20 |
I just think it's funny... people complain that nobody leaves a comment when they vote low. Then when someone votes low AND leaves a comment - people complain about that too!
I'd rather have the comment - at least I understand where they are coming from even if I humbly disagree. :-)
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06/26/2006 05:10:13 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by frisca:
get over it! it happens to everyone and its just a score and a virtual ribbon |
lol well said with what you stated above, I just dont understand it....when it turns ugly on here for a 72 dpi ribbon
Originally posted by dwterry:
I just think it's funny... people complain that nobody leaves a comment when they vote low. Then when someone votes low AND leaves a comment - people complain about that too! |
lol well said on that one too
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 17:13:33.
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06/26/2006 05:16:25 PM · #22 |
That is a great post frisca and am glad to see an SC member make it. Take your comment, be happy someone even took the time to do it, and move on. However, there is something else that bothers me even worse than that.
I don't like it when people complain about the subjects people shoot. Frankly I'm a bit tired of, "God, another flower shot" or, "C'mon people. Why so many waterfalls?" or, "another water drop". I think it discourages site activity because people are being labeled as uncreative and was personally happy to see the recent Flower challenge posted. It's funny, but you can go to the portfolios of the people who complain about these things and find many shots that have been done over and over. It may not be a flower, waterfall or water droplet, but a rainbow, eagle or bug macro. Either way, whether they've been done to death or not, I still like'm!
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06/26/2006 05:40:27 PM · #23 |
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the bitching and moaning about voters / commentors locked when they come up, with an SC comment about how this isn't tolerated. These threads, when they are inflamatory, serve no real purpose and simply drive people from helping.
If they are, however, honestly asking wtf in a constructive manner, that's another story and I trust SC to make that judgement call.
For the 'oh censors forbid' crowd, I refer you to mk25. |
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06/26/2006 06:08:54 PM · #24 |
| WTG Frisca! Now, as been said above, how can we force everyone to read this? :-P |
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06/26/2006 06:19:11 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
WTG Frisca! Now, as been said above, how can we force everyone to read this? :-P |
make it the default homepage?? heh great post Frisky and definitely needed.
[iedited cause the author can't type ..... [/i]
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 18:25:55. |
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