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06/22/2006 05:36:00 AM · #176 |
Originally posted by eschelar: Recently here in Taiwan, MacDonald's has started going after the MOS burger chain and has released a fried version of the MOS rice burger.. It's doing fairly well for two reasons: 1 - The MOS burgers around here are 60% rice... Most of them use loose meat rather than a patty and it all collects at the front... After two bites, it's pretty much all rice... I've only eaten their rice burgers once as a result... their food is quite expensive. 2 - the MOS burgers arond here tend to be fairly greasy too.. That greasy rice isn't all that nice... MacDonold's is greasy too, but it's fried and at least that makes it 'taste better' and justifies using the grease. |
Hey you get MOS burger over there too? :) I love their MOS chicken and also their fries - fat, crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside :p Darn, maybe I'll get some for dinner tonite! I agree with you on the burger patty being too little though :(
Originally posted by eschelar: As to the illustration below, it's hard to say because I can't quite figure out what scale you are thinking of... |
the scale was ridiculously enlarged (zoomed in?) of course. It was drawn with the assumption that the super-sharp lens being capable of putting a perfect, sharp image on the sensor. But as we know, the sensor is made up of photo-sensitive diodes, and each diode can theoritically only produce one pixel in the digital output...
Message edited by author 2006-06-22 05:36:56. |
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06/22/2006 05:58:06 AM · #177 |
Tee hee, time for you to read up on 'circle of confusion' and 'airy circles'. Off to Google with you! :) |
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06/22/2006 07:59:01 AM · #178 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever: Originally posted by Megatherian:
What does it mean if I find candy corn in my poop? |
It probably means you have some sort of sick fetish you need not expose in a general forum :-P
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Either that...or someone who sleeps close by you has that sick fetish.
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06/22/2006 08:24:53 AM · #179 |
I'll actually play on-photography-topic this time. The EF-S lenses, made just for digital cameras - are their focal lengths true, or still subject to the 1.6 factor? Like the 18-55 that comes with the Canons - is it really 18-55, or is it altered, too?
Oh, what the hell, I'll be silly too. What's the French word for "bouquet"?
;-P
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06/22/2006 08:57:54 AM · #180 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22: I'll actually play on-photography-topic this time. The EF-S lenses, made just for digital cameras - are their focal lengths true, or still subject to the 1.6 factor? Like the 18-55 that comes with the Canons - is it really 18-55, or is it altered, too?
Oh, what the hell, I'll be silly too. What's the French word for "bouquet"?
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The EF-S lenses are still subject to the crop factor, only difference is that the back end of the lens is closer to the sensor. This is for shorter and less expensive wide angle lenses. It's also why you don't see any EF-S lenses past 85mm.
And the french word for "bouquet" is "bouquet."
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06/22/2006 08:59:33 AM · #181 |
Thanks SamDoe1! The EF-S thing had be confused for a while.
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06/22/2006 10:49:24 AM · #182 |
Time is a pet peeve of mine. I have yet to be convinced that time exists, that it is anything more than a useful concept to help us figure stuff out and find each other. Stuff that measures time is always just stuff that is changing. We put two things that change next to each other and we notice sometimes that the changes are identical, like putting two watches together. If the changes are not identical, then one of the watches is called "slow" or the other watch is called "fast." We say that in a really fast jet "time" was slowed down when really all that happened was that one object didn't change as much as another object. If you think of "time" this way, as an invention, then the notion of time travel becomes ridiculous. So my advice is to party like it's 1999.
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06/22/2006 10:59:53 AM · #183 |
Time is a measurement. It's not an actual thing, or at least I don't think so. It's not an object, just like an inch or centimeter aren't objects. In a really fast jet, this measurement becomes longer. So in a way, each second becomes longer than a stationary second making time "slow" down. Don't know if that makes sense, I think I just confused myself...
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06/22/2006 12:37:35 PM · #184 |
Dogs and dolphins don't care about time and (most of them) seem to have happy productive lives.
Yet from the second you're born as a human time is the heaviest burden put on you for the rest of your life. Most stress in people's lives will have time as one of the factors. How much happier would we be if we could all just forget the very concept of time.
I say we have national clock smashing day! |
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06/22/2006 01:08:20 PM · #185 |
Originally posted by Megatherian: Dogs and dolphins don't care about time and (most of them) seem to have happy productive lives.
Yet from the second you're born as a human time is the heaviest burden put on you for the rest of your life. Most stress in people's lives will have time as one of the factors. How much happier would we be if we could all just forget the very concept of time.
I say we have national clock smashing day! |
Without a concept of time, most of our modern inventions wouldn't work. For example, an automobile emgine will not work if it is not precisely timed, ditto for a computer. And without a concept of time we would never have rollover :-(
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06/22/2006 01:27:34 PM · #186 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever: Without a concept of time, most of our modern inventions wouldn't work. |
Without time, I don't think anything would work. The world would end. You would have no idea when to wake up and when to go to work. You wouldn't know when to leave work either, that being the worst part. And saying that you'd leave for work when the sun comes up and go home when it goes down is using the sun as a measurement of time. :) Electricity wouldn't work either as it's also based on a timed frequency of 60Hz (I think). So without time, we'd be pretty much screwed.
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06/22/2006 01:43:23 PM · #187 |
Eveery other species seems to live just fine without time. I'm not saying there wouldn't be adjustments to make but there was a time (I know I used the word time) when even man didn't have a real concept of time and survived on to today's society.
What people think they need and what people actually need to survive and be HAPPY are not necessarily the same thing.
Do you think tribesmen and their families living in 3rd world countries aren't happy because they don't have ipods?
Time and money, if we could just find a way to do without those we'd have so much less stress - who's to say we wouldn't be happier in the long run? |
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06/22/2006 01:48:37 PM · #188 |
Originally posted by Megatherian: Eveery other species seems to live just fine without time. I'm not saying there wouldn't be adjustments to make but there was a time (I know I used the word time) when even man didn't have a real concept of time and survived on to today's society. |
Given that a large number of animals are in estrus for only a couple of days a year, I'd say most animals (and plants) use time as an integral component of their lives -- what they lack is the consciousness and language to communicate to us their perceptions and experiences of it.
Bears hibernating, morning glories opening and closing, birds flying south "for the Winter" are just a few examples I can think of where an awareness of the passage of time is crucial to the survival of the (non-human) subject. |
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06/22/2006 01:51:11 PM · #189 |
Originally posted by Megatherian: Eveery other species seems to live just fine without time. I'm not saying there wouldn't be adjustments to make but there was a time (I know I used the word time) when even man didn't have a real concept of time and survived on to today's society.
What people think they need and what people actually need to survive and be HAPPY are not necessarily the same thing.
Do you think tribesmen and their families living in 3rd world countries aren't happy because they don't have ipods?
Time and money, if we could just find a way to do without those we'd have so much less stress - who's to say we wouldn't be happier in the long run? |
I dunno, our dog seems to know when feeding time is, and gets really unhappy when we are late. . .And animals who depend on migration for survival are using *time.* And caterpillars use *time* otherwise how would they know when to spin into butterflies? Granted, they don't have watches and stuff, but I think pretty much everything runs on *time.*
I suspect even the earliest men used *time*. Like SamDoe1 pointed out, even if you use the sun as a measurement, that is a form of time.
Don't really understand how time/money = ipods. But, even tribesmen and their families in third world countries have something to measure time and use something for money.
Though, if everything was free, I agree it would seem like it would be nice. |
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06/22/2006 01:51:51 PM · #190 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Time and money, if we could just find a way to do without those we'd have so much less stress - who's to say we wouldn't be happier in the long run? |
I definitely wish we could get away from the concept of money. Without money, people would become more equal and be able to pursue what really makes them happy and productive to society. Who's to say that the person that could cure cancer or AIDS isn't working at a Waffle House, because he has to make money to survive?
Message edited by author 2006-06-22 13:53:20.
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06/22/2006 02:07:45 PM · #191 |
well my opinion is that people put time concepts on animals but in reality they are just reacting to the environment.
There's a difference between it's getting cold so time to fly south and it's October 19th and we have somewhere to be.
With Global warming scientists are actually finding that birds are migrating later and later - some birds aren't migrating at all and the areas they are migrating to are slowly moving further north each year.
I also think there's a difference between recognizing the sun is in a different position and knowing it's 4:13PM.
Much of the world including tribesmen have been "corrupted" by time and money but I have heard of groups that had no word or concept of "money", "stealing" or "greed"
Clearly people's intelligence and memory would make it pretty much impossible for us not to ave a rudimentary concept of what we think of as time. I guess the idea I'm trying to get more at is it would be nice to get rid of the restrictions we put on ourselves and others based upon our concept of time.
with that said I don't think it could actually happen. People would mess it up and corrupt the idea much like we do with political systems. We have wonderful ideas sometimes but ultimately we tend to want to control so much we end up losing site of the initial concept.
as far as the ipods comment goes - it seems many are constantly chasing this or that to be happy. I'll be happy when I upgrade my camera, I'll be happy when I pay off my house/car, I'll be happy when I find a girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband. We spend so much of our TIME waiting for the thing that will make us happy that we never get there. Looking at other simpler cultures though we can see that people can be happy with "nothing" - and in many cases I would say even happier because we wouldn't be such slaves to time/money and other people. |
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06/22/2006 03:58:00 PM · #192 |
I think concepts like time and money are being used to facilitate what would otherwise be a fatal overpopulation of our species. There's just way too many of us for simpler tribal systems to work out. But if we don't amend our polluting ways soon, we're going to kill ourselves off anyway.
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06/22/2006 04:03:36 PM · #193 |
Originally posted by posthumous: I think concepts like time and money are being used to facilitate what would otherwise be a fatal overpopulation of our species. There's just way too many of us for simpler tribal systems to work out. But if we don't amend our polluting ways soon, we're going to kill ourselves off anyway. |
I don't think we could truely overpopulae the world. When poulation gets to high so does disease etc. which kills us and lowers our population numbers. I agree it would be better to "solve" the problem ourselves than to let disease start wiping us all out. |
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06/22/2006 04:04:26 PM · #194 |
Originally posted by posthumous: I think concepts like time and money are being used to facilitate what would otherwise be a fatal overpopulation of our species. There's just way too many of us for simpler tribal systems to work out. But if we don't amend our polluting ways soon, we're going to kill ourselves off anyway. |
Hey, mass extinction can be a good thing.
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06/22/2006 04:10:29 PM · #195 |
Time is considered the most used English noun. |
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06/22/2006 04:14:52 PM · #196 |
Originally posted by Megatherian: I don't think we could truely overpopulae the world. When poulation gets to high so does disease etc. which kills us and lowers our population numbers. I agree it would be better to "solve" the problem ourselves than to let disease start wiping us all out. |
Disease, starvation, etc. works in a normal overpopulation scenario. But what's happening with our species is that we are "supersaturating" the world, and the means we are using to do so generate pollutants that might actually cause the global ecology to shift to a new equilibrium, something on the scale of an Ice Age, and *that* is what might wipe us out. It amuses me that admitting to this likelihood is considered a political position.
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06/22/2006 04:21:04 PM · #197 |
Originally posted by posthumous: Originally posted by Megatherian: I don't think we could truely overpopulae the world. When poulation gets to high so does disease etc. which kills us and lowers our population numbers. I agree it would be better to "solve" the problem ourselves than to let disease start wiping us all out. |
Disease, starvation, etc. works in a normal overpopulation scenario. But what's happening with our species is that we are "supersaturating" the world, and the means we are using to do so generate pollutants that might actually cause the global ecology to shift to a new equilibrium, something on the scale of an Ice Age, and *that* is what might wipe us out. It amuses me that admitting to this likelihood is considered a political position. |
Well an ice age would definately wipe most of us out. |
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06/22/2006 04:28:07 PM · #198 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Well an ice age would definately wipe most of us out. |
We'd get some awesome photos though :-)
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06/22/2006 04:29:59 PM · #199 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever: Originally posted by Megatherian:
Well an ice age would definately wipe most of us out. |
We'd get some awesome photos though :-) |
Not to mention our computers would run super fast! |
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06/22/2006 05:02:01 PM · #200 |
Originally posted by Megatherian: well my opinion is that people put time concepts on animals but in reality they are just reacting to the environment.
There's a difference between it's getting cold so time to fly south and it's October 19th and we have somewhere to be.
With Global warming scientists are actually finding that birds are migrating later and later - some birds aren't migrating at all and the areas they are migrating to are slowly moving further north each year.
I also think there's a difference between recognizing the sun is in a different position and knowing it's 4:13PM.
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Of course there's differences between those things, just like there's a difference between a gear driven clock and an atomic clock. It's all about precision.
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