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10/22/2008 11:28:19 PM · #26

Well, this has sure brought a few new people to DPC. Sorry that you all got scammed.
As you long as you found DPC, please stick around and join the madhouse. However, I will tell you that when you get praise here, it does not come easily.

Message edited by author 2008-10-22 23:31:37.
10/22/2008 11:49:12 PM · #27
Welcome to DPC contestscam. I hope that you will stay around to enjoy the site. I would see about getting your username changed if you plan to be here a while though.
Have a look at the current "Helping SDW" thread if you want to know what the people here are like.
Rox_Rox has a good guide for newbies posted on her profile page.

10/23/2008 01:47:44 PM · #28
Hi Everyone,

I have been a member of Photolaureates for 2 years now. Here is part of what goes on in their photochallenges. I feel the book is a big scam. I posted a picture and after going into the site understand how it works very well. I also ordered a plaque but after recieving it they spelled my name wrong and would not correct it. Now the only way to get the prize money is to join their global photo contest. In entering the contest you have to decide what you would like to do. Join for a $65.00 fee for the year to post a picture a day of 1 year to recieve reviews by other photographer's in the challenge. YOu can also review other photographer's pictures as well. The challenge is supposted to have a winner at the end of the year. The top two persons at the end of the year are to split the $6500.00 top prize. The only way to get reviews is to give reviews. It is a 5 star rating for a great picture 4 star rating for a good picture 3 star for a mediocer picture 2 if it is bad and 1 if it ismessed up. There are photographer's at diffrent levels of photography reviewing a picture you post. There are professional to beginner photographers in the contest. There is not one team member from the site there to review your pictures. There are diffrent levels of entering the contest. 1 year subcription with unlimited usage or 6 months with unlimited usgae, 5 picture limit which allows you to post five pictures review 5 pictures and that end your term there unless you pay for more time. There is also a free 1 picture tryout. People review you picture but you cannot respond to the photographers review. John Wharton did not really get involved in it untill late last year he does a monthly challenge where the winner is chosen by him to recieve an I-pod. Each day they are supposed to have a picture of the day. The most popular picture is posted for everyone to see and say nice picture. If you get 5 pod's you are supposed to get money off next years subscription. The Photochallenge in my estimation is a popluarity contest. Any of the pirzes that they tell you you are going to recieve are bogus. I say stay as far away from this site as possible. Maybe it will close down if enough people quit it. Most of the people in Photolaureates that leave it go to Red Bubble I have not checked it out but am sure it is simular to Photolaureates. There are some nice people in there and some nasty ones as well. mY 2 years ar almost up and I will never go back into it again. But just wanted to tell you all of my experience there. Good luck to you and hope to hear from you soon. Scott
10/23/2008 02:13:22 PM · #29
That "review" and "popularity contest" sounds similar in many ways to DPC, but with an unhealthy dose of scam added. No illusions here, all you can win is a virtual ribbon, but it's fun. Stick around.
10/23/2008 02:54:43 PM · #30
Please note that it is the corporate practice of some competitors and/or professional photographers to issue defamatory statements about Photography Laureates in Internet forums in an attempt to harm our reputation as a leading publisher and community site catering to amateur and professional photographers.

As one of senior editors of the photo challenge and of photo laureates, we would like to cordially invite you to www.thephotochallenge.com where you will see how we evaluate photographs. This will give you some live and real time hindsight as to how we go about evaluating photographs. If you do not like our work, we respect your opinion, but please come and see for yourself first. We would really like to interact with you over concrete photo shoots as opposed to impersonal forums. If you accept our invitation, we will be quite pleased to meet you on the photo challenge.

Message edited by author 2008-10-23 14:57:07.
10/23/2008 03:21:34 PM · #31
impersonal? You obviously aren't from around here :)
10/23/2008 03:30:03 PM · #32
But you have to pay to even see the site! I think I'll pass, thanks.
10/23/2008 03:43:01 PM · #33
Originally posted by JamesHumphrey:

Please note that it is the corporate practice of some competitors and/or professional photographers to issue defamatory statements about Photography Laureates in Internet forums in an attempt to harm our reputation as a leading publisher and community site catering to amateur and professional photographers.

As one of senior editors of the photo challenge and of photo laureates, we would like to cordially invite you to www.thephotochallenge.com where you will see how we evaluate photographs. This will give you some live and real time hindsight as to how we go about evaluating photographs. If you do not like our work, we respect your opinion, but please come and see for yourself first. We would really like to interact with you over concrete photo shoots as opposed to impersonal forums. If you accept our invitation, we will be quite pleased to meet you on the photo challenge.


Sorry, it's just not worth $7.99 to see for myself.

If you really wanted to dispel the notion that your organization is anything other than a scam, you'd give a much more comprehensive preview.
10/23/2008 03:47:33 PM · #34
Originally posted by JamesHumphrey:

real time hindsight as to how we go about evaluating photographs.


Isn't that an oxymoronic statement?
10/23/2008 03:50:55 PM · #35
Originally posted by yospiff:

Originally posted by JamesHumphrey:

real time hindsight as to how we go about evaluating photographs.


Isn't that an oxymoronic statement?


I'd say it's oxymoronic.

Message edited by author 2008-10-23 15:51:06.
10/23/2008 04:09:41 PM · #36
Yeah, if you Google John Warton you find a bunch of press releases they've posted everywhere, spouting the same garbage.

Funny, but wouldn't you think that if you gave people a decent product you wouldn't have to spend so much time and effort defending yourself against those you've scammed?
10/23/2008 04:47:10 PM · #37
Originally posted by BeeCee:

Yeah, if you Google John Warton you find a bunch of press releases they've posted everywhere, spouting the same garbage.

If you Google 'photography laureates' this thread is the second hit. So it looks like we're doing the community a service.

Besides, John Warton never replies to my emails. ;-)
10/23/2008 04:51:57 PM · #38
Originally posted by JH:

So it looks like we're doing the community a service.



Beats picking up trash along the freeway.
10/24/2008 10:16:40 AM · #39
Hi

I see James Humphries looked at the messages but does not read them. I am in the photochallenge and will be retiring very soon. If any one on this forum would like to check out the site let me know in a private message on my page. I will check out the dpchallenge more in the future. At least with a virtiual blue ribbon I will not be loosing and thing and gaining some respect for my pictures. I know I lost some money on the other site. But as they say it is a lesson learned. All they can do in thephotochallenge is take out my portfolio. Like I don't have copies of my pictures stored anywhere else!! John Wharton reviews picture in a monthly challenge the editors make up. I don't even think he spends any time in the site. someone else does the work for him. As someone said here I have never even seen a picture by him. In last month challenge he did not finish reviewing the pictures of the contests and gave out a prize. Ok tell me and those other photographers what is wrong with this picture. Yes I think we are doing the community a service in exposing that site. If you have ever heard of a great photography school called New York Institute of Photography they have tips for on line photo contests www.nyip.com It explains how to enter conests. One point that changed my point of view on any photo contest is if they ask you to buy a book or send in lots of money do not join it. I found that out too late. Who is going to purchase the book only those people who think it will get them exposer for other places. There are two other photo sites i stay wawy from besides Photolaureates. One is Picture.com and Red Bubble each sell books to get your attention. So JH what do you say.
10/24/2008 06:11:39 PM · #40
Welcome, Scott :) I'm sorry you were taken in by their scam, but glad you found your way here because of them. Hope you find us a little more to your liking!
12/13/2008 10:49:56 AM · #41
Its official, they're a scam! I submitted a photo about a month ago and i was HELLA HAPPY, lol. But when i saw that you had to pay for for your own biography, thats when questions started to come up. So this morning i registered and submitted another photo and my photo was "chosen" in 5 minutes. This is the image i submitted. No one should have any doubts or questions about this site anymore. The photo i submitted
01/21/2009 12:37:42 AM · #42
I am so happy to have found this discussion, but also sad to hear that it is a scam. Sad, for my 12 y/o daughter, who unbeknown to me submitted a very nice photo to the Photo Laureate contest. Of course, just last night, she too was notified that her photo was chosen out of the many that are entered, blah, blah, blah.... She was so excited that she was almost breathless.... and wanted to order all the merchandise offered... I told her that I should check into it first to make sure it was legit. She kept asking and asking last night if I had found anything yet about it being real. It was one of the first things she asked me when she woke up this morning... So sad.... poor kid....what a letdown for a child... As long as I'm here... I'm not into photography myself, but wonder if any of you might know of photography contests for youth? (that aren't scams :D ) Thank you all very much for sharing your stories - sorry for your bad luck! Even we adults have to learn some things the hard way... (Ask me sometime about the empty box I bought for $249.00 on ebay... ;) )
01/21/2009 12:39:16 AM · #43
Originally posted by kriser_99:

I am so happy to have found this discussion, but also sad to hear that it is a scam. Sad, for my 12 y/o daughter, who unbeknown to me submitted a very nice photo to the Photo Laureate contest. Of course, just last night, she too was notified that her photo was chosen out of the many that are entered, blah, blah, blah.... She was so excited that she was almost breathless.... and wanted to order all the merchandise offered... I told her that I should check into it first to make sure it was legit. She kept asking and asking last night if I had found anything yet about it being real. It was one of the first things she asked me when she woke up this morning... So sad.... poor kid....what a letdown for a child... As long as I'm here... I'm not into photography myself, but wonder if any of you might know of photography contests for youth? (that aren't scams :D ) Thank you all very much for sharing your stories - sorry for your bad luck! Even we adults have to learn some things the hard way... (Ask me sometime about the empty box I bought for $249.00 on ebay... ;) )


So, uh, about that $249.00 box on eBay...

What's the story there? :D
01/29/2009 08:44:02 PM · #44
well am i glad i found this site i got the same email. so i signed up just to add this
b/c i almost fell for it but i figured to good to be true.
01/29/2009 08:53:04 PM · #45
kriser, that's so sad, the poor kid :(

There's a thread in here somewhere with a site that lists a lot of contests. I'll see if I can find it. I'm sure there'd be something on it that would fit her.
01/29/2009 09:00:16 PM · #46
Originally posted by zackdezon:

Originally posted by kriser_99:

I am so happy to have found this discussion, but also sad to hear that it is a scam. Sad, for my 12 y/o daughter, who unbeknown to me submitted a very nice photo to the Photo Laureate contest. Of course, just last night, she too was notified that her photo was chosen out of the many that are entered, blah, blah, blah.... She was so excited that she was almost breathless.... and wanted to order all the merchandise offered... I told her that I should check into it first to make sure it was legit. She kept asking and asking last night if I had found anything yet about it being real. It was one of the first things she asked me when she woke up this morning... So sad.... poor kid....what a letdown for a child... As long as I'm here... I'm not into photography myself, but wonder if any of you might know of photography contests for youth? (that aren't scams :D ) Thank you all very much for sharing your stories - sorry for your bad luck! Even we adults have to learn some things the hard way... (Ask me sometime about the empty box I bought for $249.00 on ebay... ;) )


So, uh, about that $249.00 box on eBay...

What's the story there? :D


My bet is is was a Wii or xbox360 "box" and you they thought they were getting the whole system when the auction was for just the box the system came in.
02/05/2009 01:32:09 PM · #47
I cant not stress enough to everyone on here. DONT NOT BELEAVE THIS SITE!!!Photography Laureates rips people off.
I am one of thopse people, I enter my work online for contest and reseved a notice that I had won and for a
fee I can buy a book with my work and that of others, I thought that was cool so my husband bought two of them for $115.00
last summer. they said that becouse they were still sreechin for others to be in this book it would be sent 1-4-09.
so I sent them an e-mail yesterday askin when it would be mailed and have not reseved any news.
If you go to BBB and look them up you will see that their facks but theres others.
I have called the Attorney generals office in CA about filing a report maybe if enough people do this
action will be takin. If you wish to help start a law suit please call 1-916-322-3360 and ask them to mail you the papers.
It's a start to justice for some of us. I'm goin to try to get something out of this, I maybe out a book but Atleast I'll sleep
a lil better a night. thanks Sandy

Message edited by author 2009-02-05 14:08:31.
03/14/2009 02:59:20 PM · #48
The same thing happened to me today. Makes me wonder also.
03/26/2009 05:46:14 PM · #49
Photo Laureates is and is not a scam .... it is not because they do award prizes (or so I hear). They are because the way they cover their prize money is by selling the books. there is no way they can make any money off of the 50 or so people who would normally be buying the book. So everybody wins so that rather than selling 50 books they can sell 5000 books. At any rate, don\'t be fooled because your photos are not critiqued by professional photographer or artists. I doubt seriously they are critiqued at all. Looking at some of the posts in here obviously some of you have come to realize that already.
Another point I would like to make to those of you who have purchased items from PL; you should pursue getting your money back, which is to say, approach the company and ask for a refund. You won\'t get it probably but threaten them with a law suit and reporting to the US Attorney General. The fact that they said your photo would be \"published\" because of its winning status constitutes a contract. Gluing a photo into a already published book constitutes fraud. If gluing was all that needed to be done than we all could take someone else photos and glue them in a book and sell them. I have not personally looked at any of the books but if there is an ISBN number than the book is registered with the library of congress and probably copyrighted. to sell an altered version of the book is a breach of copyright laws and carries heavy fines as well as prison time. each book sold would be one count.
Anyway that\'s my take on it. It is a scam and your photos are not really being critiqued by anybody of any credibility. John you have posted on this forum twice (snicker) and I challenge you to provide everyone in here with your credentials and some history of your background and/or the people you claim are looking at the photos these people are sending in. I am a professional photographer/writer and know how to critique a photo as well as publishing laws and methods, I also know many people in the business of both trades and publishers. put your money where your mouth is, I for one hate to see good people taken for a ride.
03/26/2009 06:28:47 PM · #50
This looks like the new Ken Rockwell thread... :P

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For the record-- Ken Rockwell is NOT a scam.
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