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05/17/2006 01:54:49 AM · #1
Who gives 1s or 2s and why. I think if the voter left a why so low I would at least know what a 1 or 2 vote ment. Is it like a be mean, I'm having a bad day so ONE on you. HA. Or Maybe I am voting wrong, do I have to have photos raited from 1-10 at the end of a challange? Even the moldy cheese pic I saw was better then 1 or 2. <<EDIT>> Would it be wrong to ask those who voted the 1s and 2s why. So I can correct the problem in the future?

Message edited by author 2006-05-17 01:58:46.
05/17/2006 01:57:18 AM · #2
For some it may be being mean for others they just have different standards.
05/17/2006 01:58:04 AM · #3
My last entry got a 1. I guess that person just really didn't like it. It baffles me how some people vote.
05/17/2006 02:01:44 AM · #4
the DNMC Nazi group uses it a lot,
and they are usually low-profile when the use it so that their popularity won't drop, lol
05/17/2006 02:08:07 AM · #5
Originally posted by crayon:

the DNMC Nazi group uses it a lot,
and they are usually low-profile when the use it so that their popularity won't drop, lol


I am rather curious as to just how you would arrive at that conclusion. Is it based on demonstrable facts....or is it mere speculation on your part.

I have deducted marks for DNMC factors, but not once have I doled out a one for it... and to be honest, I am and have been up front about it and have never factored my personal popularity in the equation.

Ray
05/17/2006 02:11:46 AM · #6
DNMC Nazi group? What is DNMC?
05/17/2006 02:13:33 AM · #7
Originally posted by liltritter:

DNMC Nazi group? What is DNMC?


Does Not Meet Challenge.
05/17/2006 02:14:12 AM · #8
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by crayon:

the DNMC Nazi group uses it a lot,
and they are usually low-profile when the use it so that their popularity won't drop, lol


I am rather curious as to just how you would arrive at that conclusion. Is it based on demonstrable facts....or is it mere speculation on your part.


It's based on demonstrable facts.
Go to challenge results and look for those DNMC photos, then look at the votes given. Lots of 1s and 2s... You're generous in your voting for deducting a point from your votes, but some will simply vote a 1.
By the way, I didn't say you are one of them!

Message edited by author 2006-05-17 02:15:34.
05/17/2006 02:17:15 AM · #9
Okay, if it meets the challange, and its 1s or 2s, then overall the photo needs help? lol Im confused it had 6 ones and 7 tens. It's done to confuse the heck out of me lolol. So not giving 1s or 2s is ok when I'm voting... I'm happy... Confused, but happy. Thanks
05/17/2006 05:18:30 AM · #10
There are some 290377.jpg photos in the lenscap challenge, won't say which ones though.
05/17/2006 05:33:39 AM · #11
Originally posted by srdanz:

There are some 290377.jpg photos in the lenscap challenge, won't say which ones though.


That is Awesome!!

here was my last entry:

327881.jpg
05/17/2006 05:37:12 AM · #12
Lots of people give 1s and 2s, even on pictures who eventually ribbon. It is just the nature of the beast. It pisses you off to no end (me anyway) but there is nothing you can do about it except forget about it and not pickle your liver over it.

June
05/17/2006 05:39:13 AM · #13
I occasionally give out a one, but it is usually on very small photographs. With all the editing software available, there is no excuse not to use the full 640 px that DPC allows. I will not even waste time on a tiny image. I think that 500 px is even too small, and the vote suffers on those as well. Not 1s, but not as good as it could be. Always use the full amount they allow...ALWAYS.
05/17/2006 05:41:32 AM · #14
I'm very new here, with no popularity rating. I've voted the odd 1 or 2, I think. I also try to follow the guideline that asks us to leave commentary on pictures that are marked below 4 (that makes for a few undeserving 4s, too).
I start with a set of criteria to meet the challenge. These may be personal, because a challenge like 'still life' (for example) gets to be a bit meaningless without some explanation of the criteria involved, so I make my own meaning and criteria.
A still life is a picture of a number of objects that are positioned by the artist for visual effect. The only necessary connection between the elements of the picture is visual. A pot of paint and a dead dog have nothing to do with each other, but if the artist/photographer sees some visual interplay between them, then go for it is the order. It's not about reporting a story or event - the picture is visual, not literary.
So if I see a picture that is a joke, that is deliberately intended to tell a story, in which the elements are not put in place by the photographer and in which living and/or dynamic elements are included - in other words, a picture that meets none of the criteria that I have decided on - then it probably can't rise above five. A strategy for me may be to give it four and come back later for a closer look at the fours.
Even if it misses out on all the above criteria, a picture may still be well composed in terms of colour contrast/harmony, placement of lines and areas within the picture frame, setting of subject element(s) in relation to the whole etc. If not, then it can go on down.
Then of course we have the camera-technical considerations of e.g. depth of field and, of course, that nasty little trade-off between ISO sensitivity and noise.
I think a lot of pictures get a little bit too much sharpening (USM?) and colour saturation, so there's the aspect of post processing to consider. Get that wrong, as well as the shoot itself, and I think the road to 1 or 2 is paved and ready.

You don't have to listen to me though. My average is under five and likely to stay there.

Oh yeah, sometimes I have bad days, too. :)
05/17/2006 05:57:06 AM · #15
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by crayon:

the DNMC Nazi group uses it a lot,
and they are usually low-profile when the use it so that their popularity won't drop, lol


I am rather curious as to just how you would arrive at that conclusion. Is it based on demonstrable facts....or is it mere speculation on your part.


It's based on demonstrable facts.
Go to challenge results and look for those DNMC photos, then look at the votes given. Lots of 1s and 2s... You're generous in your voting for deducting a point from your votes, but some will simply vote a 1.
By the way, I didn't say you are one of them!


There is no such thing as a DNMC nazi group, and those are not "demonstrable facts" to prove anything about how anyone votes.

There is nothing wrong with voting an entry low if you think it does not meet the challenge. In fact, that is what the rules instruct us to do -
"While voting, users are asked to keep in highest consideration the topic of the challenge and base their rating accordingly."

Voting an entry a one solely because it does not meet the challenge, and not considering it's photographic merit, is extreme but not against the rules. Each of us can vote in whatever manner we choose. And we shouldn't have to suffer being called a nazi just because someone else doesn't agree with the way we vote. The only thing I try to tell other people about how they should vote is to use the whole scale of 1 to 10. But if someone doesn't want to, that's there business, and it doesn't make them a nazi.
05/17/2006 06:10:38 AM · #16
in the night shot i finish 22th and i have voter with 2 and 3 just don't understand those peoples i like to know why they vote 2 or 3 pls hell me get better.
05/17/2006 06:55:24 AM · #17
Originally posted by ceyval:

in the night shot i finish 22th and i have voter with 2 and 3 just don't understand those peoples i like to know why they vote 2 or 3 pls hell me get better.

Well, I guess it means they are absolutely fantastic photographers themselves and see things we mortals don't see. But I do wish they would share some of their knowledge with us ... just once in a whild. I guess they do not have time to leave comments; hurrying out to take new awsome photographs.
05/17/2006 07:05:36 AM · #18
The winning shot didn't get any ones or twos, but it did get 6 threes and 6 fours. Maybe the sky was too light for them. Tough break for someone who lives in the north of Iceland, I don't think the sky gets dark at night during the time of the challenge.
05/17/2006 07:17:14 AM · #19
The statistics should follow the normal curve.. or at least i would think so! That means as many 1 as 10 and as many 2 as 9.. dosen't that make sens? shouldnt people have there avg vote cated around 5? Now im just asking not saying 8-)
05/17/2006 07:54:24 AM · #20
After voting for 25% I have already given two 2s and a 1. (No 3s yet.) In all three cases I reasoned my choice, which was DNMC for the 2s and DNMC + serious technical issues for the 1.
In general, I stay below 4 when it comes to DNMC and I state it in a comment most times. It's not about to change because the topic is given for a reason. I know it has been discussed many times so I stop here.
05/17/2006 09:38:15 AM · #21
I find it fascinating how some people will routinely vote low on some images because they don't meet the challenge yet most of us have submitted such an image at one time or another and badmouthed those who scored our images low. Just an observation.

June
05/17/2006 09:50:08 AM · #22
i use the whole scale ... that's why it's there

I'd rather the scale be 1 to 400 and only be able to use a number once ... but until they perfect that ... i'll most likely use all the numbers while voting. I don't always give out 1's ... but I don't always give out 10's either.

:)
05/17/2006 09:52:59 AM · #23
Ditto what hopper said.

Also, if've never seen a 1 or 2 photo, check this page.
05/17/2006 10:17:06 AM · #24
Sweeeeet! I didn't make the first 13 pages. (lol). Im gonna have to work on that. I will bet there is an enormous amount of learning that can come from those pages.
05/17/2006 11:50:36 AM · #25
Originally posted by GuGi:

... But I do wish they would share some of their knowledge with us ... just once in a whild. ...

Don't your entries get any comments at all? My guess would be that they are already doing what you are wishing for, at least once in a while.
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