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05/15/2006 10:31:19 PM · #1
What is the differance?

The nomenclature is to close to call.

Is an engine a motor?

Is a motor reserved for electrics?

Is an engine reserved for internal combustion?

What about out board motors? They have engines in them.

Why is Detroit known as "Motor City"?

What do you say?

I am having a beer on this one.
05/15/2006 10:33:57 PM · #2
An engine uses an internal power source to acheive work.
A motor uses an external power source to acheive work.
That's how I describe it anyway....
05/15/2006 10:38:19 PM · #3
Normally, a motor refers to an electrical device...and an engine usually refers to the internal combustion type...

but of course an engine is a type of motor so....who knows.
05/15/2006 10:39:42 PM · #4
Hey that's pretty concise Brad, very cool definition.

OK, now I want a challenge titled "Motor" so I can show my superiority and DNMC all the engines!

Brett
05/15/2006 10:40:56 PM · #5
This question was posed to several experts on the History Channel's Modern Marvels show. Conclusion, they're used interchangeably.
05/15/2006 10:45:12 PM · #6
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

This question was posed to several experts on the History Channel's Modern Marvels show. Conclusion, they're used interchangeably.


Yeah,...I think alot of men our age watch the History channel, among others. I admit it. This question is not original, but interesting.

I just can't watch the garbage on any of the networks.

Kind of ironic, me being in the biz.

Watching the Military channel right now.
05/15/2006 10:45:17 PM · #7
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

Conclusion, they're used interchangeably.
"almost"

Engines are often called motors, but not vice-versa.
Well I have never heard of a windshield wiper engine anyway....

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 22:46:21.
05/15/2006 11:02:30 PM · #8
I'm pretty much on the same page as Brad. An engine may be referred to as a motor, since it does provide motive power. All motors are not engines, however. The term engine is usually applied to something that itself burns fuel to produce power. The two major types are internal and external combustion engines.
Interestingly, the term engine is also applied to some devices that produce only information as an output, as in "computational engine.
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05/15/2006 11:07:37 PM · #9
It's interesting how this topic is developing because on the show I mentioned they said that what is an engine and what is a motor is constantly debated and each field of study is firm in its definition at least externally. However, they agreed that internally they use the terms interchangeably.
05/15/2006 11:16:47 PM · #10
There is one motor that suplies its own internal power it's called a motormouth ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 23:17:32.
05/15/2006 11:19:38 PM · #11
Originally posted by BradP:

An engine uses an internal power source to acheive work.
A motor uses an external power source to acheive work.
That's how I describe it anyway....


hehehehe lets throw a steam engine into the mix. now wouldn't you agree that it uses a external power source
05/16/2006 12:13:50 AM · #12
Originally posted by Dirtypainter:

Originally posted by BradP:

An engine uses an internal power source to acheive work.
A motor uses an external power source to acheive work.
That's how I describe it anyway....


hehehehe lets throw a steam engine into the mix. now wouldn't you agree that it uses a external power source


Buuuzzzzz... Because the combustion still occurs within the confines of the 'engine' even if it's called an external combustion engine. The firebox is usually enclosed to maximize the heat transfer. Now if you were transporting the stem through tubes to another location where the energy was utilized, that would be a different story.
05/16/2006 12:24:31 AM · #13
Want to have some real fun with this consider hybrid cars, which use internal combustion engines to turn generators to provide power to electric motors.

Wikipedia on Hybrids
05/16/2006 12:25:02 AM · #14
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by Dirtypainter:

Originally posted by BradP:

An engine uses an internal power source to acheive work.
A motor uses an external power source to acheive work.
That's how I describe it anyway....


hehehehe lets throw a steam engine into the mix. now wouldn't you agree that it uses a external power source


Buuuzzzzz... Because the combustion still occurs within the confines of the 'engine' even if it's called an external combustion engine. The firebox is usually enclosed to maximize the heat transfer. Now if you were transporting the stem through tubes to another location where the energy was utilized, that would be a different story.


eug well all steam engines pipe the steam to the pistons. The fire box is enclosed in the boiler.

The steam is never combustable.
05/16/2006 03:09:32 AM · #15
I would use motor to apply to any device used to convert energy into mechanical work.

Engine would be a motor that uses a thermodynamic cycle to do so. (i.e. Stirling, rankine etc) and of course has a low efficiency, creating much waste heat.
05/16/2006 08:47:35 AM · #16
Originally posted by BradP:

Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

Conclusion, they're used interchangeably.
"almost"

Engines are often called motors, but not vice-versa.
Well I have never heard of a windshield wiper engine anyway....


How about the Pontiac GOOOLE??? Is that a car or some dumbass in a parts store???
05/16/2006 09:17:35 AM · #17
I have nothing to add to the motor/engine debate, but Detroit is called "Motor City" because of all the car manufacturers based there. "Motor City" is also where they got the name "Motown."
05/16/2006 09:37:32 AM · #18
Just checked //www.webster.com.

One definition of engine is "something used to effect a purpose"
The example they gave was "mournful and terrible engine of horror and of crime" E. A. Poe

One definition of motor is "one that imparts motion"

IMO motor refers to a device (or perhaps a person or animal), while an engine may be a motor or may be something else.

05/16/2006 10:52:26 AM · #19
I've never considered the two words different and in most cases use them interchangably using what ever sounds better.
05/16/2006 10:55:08 AM · #20
Well, this is what happens when you "get out of the box". Kind of screws everything up doesn't it.
I agree with Brad's def.
05/16/2006 11:14:47 AM · #21
Motor, engine, whatever...a damned fuel pump for the one that lives under the hood of my car is costing me $465.00 to replace today so you don't wanna know what I want to call it! ;)
05/16/2006 11:33:06 AM · #22
Being an engineering student and coming home from a long hard day of studying THERMODYNAMICS...I can't believe we are talking about engines on a photography site!

Don't get me wrong I love studying it...all the SI and CI engines, the Otto Cycle, turbochargers....i could go on all night and day!
05/16/2006 12:36:39 PM · #23
Well, send me the bill Lauriel and I'll take care of it.
05/16/2006 12:47:49 PM · #24
Originally posted by laurielblack:

Motor, engine, whatever...a damned fuel pump for the one that lives under the hood of my car is costing me $465.00 to replace today so you don't wanna know what I want to call it! ;)

Actually it's inside your gas tank, and at $465, that's cheap!
05/16/2006 01:09:24 PM · #25
Originally posted by gthomas85:

Being an engineering student and coming home from a long hard day of studying THERMODYNAMICS...


Also fondly referred to as THERMOGODDAMMITS....
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