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04/21/2006 09:50:12 AM · #1
so my prototype 'PhoCho' went to the pattern cutter while I was in Chicago. I sure hope it is not a difficult pattern to cut.

But now I have a new idea and would like to see how this flies:
If you could change your lenses in a dust free environment no matter where you were and in any weather conditions, would this be something that you would buy if it was under $50?

Message edited by author 2006-04-21 09:50:50.
04/21/2006 09:52:34 AM · #2
Nah... dust doesn't really seem to be a problem for me. However being able to protect it from rain, now that may be a good idea (but not something I would buy as I don't shoot in the rain)
04/21/2006 09:52:45 AM · #3
It would depend on how cumbersome or easy to use it was.

David
04/21/2006 10:06:13 AM · #4
It would be very easy to use and totally portable and lightweight. I would think having a place to change your lenses no matter where you were outside, rain, windy conditions, hiking, etc. that protected the lens and especially the camera body while doing it would be a plus.

I can think of lots of places I have been where I wanted to change lenses but due to the current conditions I wouldn't do it.

Dirt track-motocross or auto
windy day at the beach-or anywhere when it is windy
blowing snow
hiking/camping

04/21/2006 10:10:10 AM · #5
Clear waterproof plastic, so I can see what I'm doing??
04/21/2006 10:24:00 AM · #6
Originally posted by idnic:

Clear waterproof plastic, so I can see what I'm doing??


Yes! Not the whole unit clear, but the important areas would be otherwise it would be useless for changing lenses. And yes waterproof. Lightweight and easy to carry, would fold to fit in a small carry bag or on the web holder on a camera bag.

Message edited by author 2006-04-21 10:27:30.
04/21/2006 10:39:31 AM · #7
I shoot outdoors all the time and live in AZ where it's probably as dusty as any place on the planet and I couldn't see myself using it. If I get dust, it's not that big of a deal to PS it until I can clean it out.

Design a sensor that is not affected by dust, or a camera that cleans the sensor at the push of a button and I'd buy that though!
04/21/2006 11:00:51 AM · #8
I'd probably be interested. Are there pics of it anywhere? I'm trying to form a mental image of how this works, but it's fuzzy.
04/21/2006 11:12:53 AM · #9
No pics yet as I haven't made a prototype yet. I just ordered the material for it this morning. Give me a bit to get the material and sew together a prototype.
04/21/2006 11:13:40 AM · #10
I see a plastic bag.
04/21/2006 11:16:38 AM · #11
Originally posted by LoudDog:

If I get dust, it's not that big of a deal to PS it until I can clean it out.

that's the same answer i've gotten from all the pros i've asked. hell, most of them don't even use lens caps...
04/21/2006 11:16:57 AM · #12
Sounds like a changing bag (as used when processing film or using a bulk loader) but clear instead of black?
04/21/2006 11:56:40 AM · #13
Originally posted by mcrael:

I see a plastic bag.


You see wrong...
04/21/2006 11:56:57 AM · #14
Originally posted by paddles:

Sounds like a changing bag (as used when processing film or using a bulk loader) but clear instead of black?


Similar yes.
04/21/2006 12:01:01 PM · #15
If it was easy to use, and easily portable, then yes I'd pay $50 for that ability. Good luck with it, sounds good to me!

Doug
04/21/2006 04:26:46 PM · #16
Prototype will be here on Tuesday. Just sent a drawing to and discussed the details with the person that does the sewing for me and she will have a prototype in my hands Tuesday.

Oh and just got an email from the pattern maker for the PhoCho and I should have the patterns for that by Thursday next week. First finished product by the following Thursday if the material comes in when the supplier said it would.

Message edited by author 2006-04-21 16:28:38.
04/21/2006 04:29:19 PM · #17
FWIW, someone on the luminous-landscape.com forums made a prototype of something similar about 6 months ago. One of the main features was the ability to keep it at a positive pressure and things like that for working in a dusty environment.

He had a lot of photos of it, operation, stuff like that.

Think he ended up getting laughed off the site, but I don't fully remember. Anyway - that's probably your biggest candidate market right there - serious landscape photographers.
04/21/2006 04:29:43 PM · #18
I'd just buy an Olympus with the dust shaker! Oh wait I already own 2 and I'm not scared to change my lens even at the dirt track when I shoot. :-) Good luck with your prototype, I hope it works out for you.

MattO
04/21/2006 04:36:56 PM · #19
Well we have one dirt track in the area and last time I was there I desperately wanted to change lenses but no way was I going to take the lens off in all that dust. Perhaps I am anal about things like this. But yes, you can photoshop the dust out, but wouldn't it be better for the lens and camera if it wasn't there in the first place? Or if what was already there wasn't added to just because you wanted to change lenses in less than optimal conditions??

This is just an idea...maybe it flies, maybe it doesn't. But it doesn't hurt to try. People laughed at the PhoCho but I already have 72 orders for it with 31 pre-pays and I don't even have the patterns yet. Every one of those orders were from the prototype which looks like something a third grader made just because of all the changes that were made to the original - cuts, re-cuts, additions here, stuf taken off there. The prototype looked like the Frankenstein of PhoChos.

Message edited by author 2006-04-21 16:40:55.
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