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04/02/2006 11:25:40 PM · #1
I agreed to do some head and full body shots for a co-worker. Her daughter is attending a Talent Search in April. The only catch I had was they had to done on slides. Can you make slides from digitals? Just wondering in case I'm not too happy with the slides we shot.

I do welcome your comments, would love your feedback in fact! Here is some info on our session. She is 17. She has absolutely no experience whatsoever (which I was not expecting). I had to offer her quite a bit of direction. Her hair was exremely difficult to work with, and of course now I can think of all sorts of different poses for her to work with that hair at different angles. She only needs one head shot and one body shot (whether it is full body, 1/2 or 3/4).

Edited to add one more picture

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Message edited by author 2006-04-02 23:27:41.
04/02/2006 11:31:25 PM · #2
is her best angle from the right?
your pics seems to suggest so
04/02/2006 11:46:02 PM · #3
Originally posted by luv2photo:

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My Favorite. It's very good. The first I dont like at all... her hips don't look right. Second to last I dont care for either. The perspective and ear bother me.

Favorites: 2, 4, and 6
Don't Like: 1 or 5

The other two are alright.
04/02/2006 11:51:47 PM · #4
I agree, I prefer the last image.

Your photography is good. Her appearance is good, but she doesn't seem to have the hair, makeup, and wardrobe of an aspiring model.

It's as if your co-worker wanted to sell his car and needed some pics, so he brought it over with a flat tire and dirty windows. You did what you could.

More suggestions (or at least ideas) to make her look more model-like might be over at OneModelPlace.
04/03/2006 12:52:58 AM · #5
I agree. The last one is the best of the bunch. #1 is unflattering. Same with #5. Those two poses need a bit of a "tune up". #4 could be improved with catchlights in her eyes, but still I like it.
04/03/2006 12:30:48 PM · #6
i realy like your photos, one thing i can give you an idea on is try and not crop off body parts, i am not exactly what the rule it i think the main rule is not at the knees or elbos or ankles, something like that, I am tottaly guilty of it also, my last shoot i did, i made sure they were completly in the fram, then just cropped in photoshop.

04/03/2006 01:52:48 PM · #7
I really like the last one, her pose is really relaxed and that makes her sexy unlike the other images were she's a bit stiff.

with a body like that you just have to show the right curves :)
04/03/2006 02:01:54 PM · #8
Hi Luv2photo,

I gave you some feedback, it's meant to be constructive. I apologize if it comes across harshly. But I hope it helps!

- Saj
04/03/2006 02:24:10 PM · #9
Hi Julie,

I left comments on each shot. I hope they are all helpful. Overall, I think you and her have great potential. I'd love to see a follow up shoot applying some of the suggestions in this thread. In a future shoot, I'd like to see a larger variety of angles to show off her versitility from all perspectives. In these shots we see her right cheek exclusively. Good job and good luck!

Daniel
04/04/2006 08:46:45 PM · #10
Thank you EVERYONE for your helpful comments!! They all truly were in depth and offered me the outside perspective I needed. These are the shots in my order of preference.

315776.jpg I think this one is my favorite because it was the best expression I got from here. There were a lot of comments overall about the lack of smile. She had braces (which are coming off soon) so she was very reluctant to smile.

315790.jpg Naturally, I liked this one. Her pose gave her curves that she didn't really have. The wind helped out just a little on this one. I do regret cropping the hands off. I wish I had time to reshoot by Friday, but I don't think we can get it in works. She needs to make her choice and send it off by Friday. I shot everything in digital first so we could both see what we were working towards. I then repeated every shot using the 35mm with slide film. She was truly more relaxed for the slide shots and I should get those tomorrow.

315777.jpg For me, she looks the most relaxed in this shot. I really had to PULL to get that hand to roll through the hair correctly without the fingers bent awkardly. (You can see her braces here, so I am sure she will hate it...her Mom on the other hand, I expect will love it). If..IF...IF...I were not so dog gone intimidated by the FLASH, or if I just learned to use a reflector!!! Thanks for the comments on this one. I think you have made my decision for me...it is time to invest in a reflector and maybe some sort of diffuser for the flash I've got.

315779.jpg I think I am just drawn to the odd angle in this one and will defenitely give it a try in B/W

315775.jpg I am drawn to this one because it elongates her figure so much. The crop suggestions were great...thanks!

315781.jpg I think she could have used a little heel in this one and would have worked best in her mini skirt that we shot at home I think. She was about 3 feet up on this one, so I am not sure that it would have been easy to get up there in a mini and the vehicles that passed by, only added to her nervousness.


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04/04/2006 08:51:20 PM · #11
Very nice shots all, but they all need a catch light...

Message edited by author 2006-04-04 20:58:44.
04/05/2006 07:18:48 PM · #12
"If..IF...IF...I were not so dog gone intimidated by the FLASH"

Look into Fong's Lightsphere, for portraits/people it does wonders! In your case definitely worth the investment.

I definitely think the second shot is (with the curves) is the one for her to submit.

04/05/2006 08:39:55 PM · #13
What do you think of an edit such as this... I've added a little bit of shading through dodge & burn and I've also added catch lights to her eyes while lighting the eyes a bit anyway.

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04/05/2006 08:51:26 PM · #14
Originally posted by TooCool:

Very nice shots all, but they all need a catch light...


No they don't. they are out door images... catch lights are not always required.
04/05/2006 08:53:49 PM · #15
Originally posted by dwterry:

What do you think of an edit such as this... I've added a little bit of shading through dodge & burn and I've also added catch lights to her eyes while lighting the eyes a bit anyway.

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Definitely better, but even softer skin tones would probably be better
04/05/2006 09:05:55 PM · #16
She needs to wear a different bra, you can clearly see the underwire fitting improperly through her tank. She needs more shoots to get comfortable with her body. Maybe sit and go through a few magazines with her and talk about how the models pose and why their poses work vs why hers don't really work. Learning to pose is that, learning, she needs to try to copy poses in the mirror and "feel" them with her body.

HTH, Mel
04/05/2006 09:13:17 PM · #17
I also suggest shooting her from a higher angle to minimise her chin and enlarge/open up her eyes....
04/12/2006 10:13:47 PM · #18
I had the chance to reshoot my model one more time before she made her selections to submit for her competition. I took ALL of the suggestions into consideration when shooting my new work. I did not shoot as many digitals this time since it was more important to get the slides perfect for her to submit them. I did convert one of my digitals to a slide for her.

My favorite, shot from a step stool using a reflector to add some light into the face and careful not to 'cut off' arms/hands, etc. Thank you ALL again for your suggestions. We had a lot more slides to choose from this time around.

In color
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In black and white
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And a new 'body' shot
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One more thing to add, she is 15, and not 17 like I originally thought.

Message edited by author 2006-04-12 22:26:51.
04/12/2006 10:35:32 PM · #19
Really like the black and white one
04/12/2006 10:56:13 PM · #20
I like 'em! I prefer the color over the b&w, I think mainly because it is more obvious that the brighter light is on her lower half rather than up on her face. Perhaps a bit of dodge and burn could bring her out of the shadow and put the emphasis back on her face. But I really do like #1 and #3 - a lot! Well done.
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