DPChallenge: A Digital Photography Contest You are not logged in. (log in or register
 

DPChallenge Forums >> General Discussion >> nudity
Pages:  
Showing posts 1 - 25 of 166, (reverse)
AuthorThread
03/25/2006 10:16:51 PM · #1
I recently received a comment from a younger member who objected to nudity in my photo..after assuring her that it wasn't really what she thought it was, I thought that perhaps this may not be the place for the younger photographers to hone their skills, at least not those with moral objections to subject matter...I guess this would apply to anyone with the same objections. However, I did not want to discourage her from participating in the challenges..isn't their a filter for nudity?
Has anyone else received similiar comments?
03/25/2006 10:23:07 PM · #2
My daughter doesn't always get too vote...but when she does she puts the headphones on and bops away...but insists on trying to vote on all images.

She has come across quite a bit of nudity and I have queried why she gives particular votes on certain nudity images. She says that some of the images make her go 'ewwwwwwwwww'...while other nude images makes her go wow.

She is 8 and blew us all away when just after her 7th birthday she told us about the birds and the bees. She is a bookworm and absorbs information like a sponge. So she has no worries with the human body and is learning to respect and admire it and not shun it as a bad thing...but to look after it. I would rather her have that view than to think that skin is bad and violence is good. She has two younger brothers and has said that she will not speak of what she knows to them....so she does understand that there is a maturity linked to such a subject.

She is not a normal child so I do not expect other children to have the same view and understanding. But with that in mind...maybe a full nudity tick box should be introduced for the parents that know their voting children would not have the same kind of view on nudity images.

I hope that makes sense.
03/25/2006 10:24:11 PM · #3
My opinion -- they have no room to object. Nudity is acceptable on this site, and that is made clear when signing up -- if they objected to the allowed content of the site, they shouldn't have signed up. But that is probably just my opinion. :P

---

From what I understand the nudity filter is not an automatic thing. Each image must be flagged for censorship by a member of the SC -- and isn't active during voting in any event.

David
03/25/2006 10:29:16 PM · #4
yes, there is a filter -- after voting is over, the nudes in the results won't show if that is the user's option.

From karmat the sc -- yes, others have received similar comments and have brought up the matter with the SC.

From karmat the member -- As far as "moral objections" to subject matter, after 4 years on the site, I'm not sure that there are any subjects that don't offend (morally or otherwise) somebody. As a site, we have some legal obligations to the younger members. For the very young, parents consent must be given. I am not the "younger members'" parent. I really have no right to tell them what they can/cannot look at or that they can/cannot be here.
03/25/2006 10:32:17 PM · #5
honestly i dont see how any "child" can determine if a photo is technically good. I've always wonder why they let them join so young.
03/25/2006 10:34:11 PM · #6
They might not know what's technically good, but that could be an advantage, as they can see the photo for what it is, something to look at and be enjoyed (or not), without being obscured by all the techy mumbo jumbo.

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 22:35:07.
03/25/2006 10:35:01 PM · #7
Originally posted by Judi:


She has come across quite a bit of nudity and I have queried why she gives particular votes on certain nudity images. She says that some of the images make her go 'ewwwwwwwwww'...while other nude images makes her go wow.


Tell her I apologize for the 'ewwwwwwws' ...

I've wondered myself, why the nudity filter doesn't work during voting. It stands to reason, that some ppl don't want to see nudity and voting would definitely shock them when it pops up.

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 22:36:12.
03/25/2006 10:35:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Judi:


She has come across quite a bit of nudity and I have queried why she gives particular votes on certain nudity images. She says that some of the images make her go 'ewwwwwwwwww'...while other nude images makes her go wow.


Tell her I apologize for the 'ewwwwwwws' ...


Hahahaha...actually your cheese shot has been one of the images that gets the most ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww's from her. But she also laughs at it...so don't worry.
03/25/2006 10:35:53 PM · #9
Originally posted by queanbeez:

honestly i dont see how any "child" can determine if a photo is technically good. I've always wonder why they let them join so young.


I don't think age determines who can tell what is technically good or not.
03/25/2006 10:36:33 PM · #10
Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Judi:


She has come across quite a bit of nudity and I have queried why she gives particular votes on certain nudity images. She says that some of the images make her go 'ewwwwwwwwww'...while other nude images makes her go wow.


Tell her I apologize for the 'ewwwwwwws' ...


Hahahaha...actually your cheese shot has been one of the images that gets the most ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww's from her. But she also laughs at it...so don't worry.


Gets a ewwwwww from me to. hahahahhahahah
03/25/2006 10:38:32 PM · #11
Originally posted by karmat:


Gets a ewwwwww from me to. hahahahhahahah


:-P ... LOL
03/25/2006 10:41:23 PM · #12
ok maybe i shouldnt have said technical...i child who is lets say under 13? probably doesnt understand what a good photo is and what isnt. Especially at 7, 8, 9? they are attracted to shiny, funny, or bright things. they dont look for skill.

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by queanbeez:

honestly i dont see how any "child" can determine if a photo is technically good. I've always wonder why they let them join so young.


I don't think age determines who can tell what is technically good or not.

03/25/2006 10:42:43 PM · #13
Making a photo isn't all about showing people what skill you have. It's about making an image that people can enjoy. Whether thats for looking bright and fun, or for emotional depth, is up to the individual looking at it.
03/25/2006 10:47:18 PM · #14
than why are all the ribbon winners photos technically good?

Originally posted by Konador:

Making a photo isn't all about showing people what skill you have. It's about making an image that people can enjoy. Whether thats for looking bright and fun, or for emotional depth, is up to the individual looking at it.

03/25/2006 10:47:49 PM · #15
Originally posted by Konador:

Making a photo isn't all about showing people what skill you have. It's about making an image that people can enjoy. Whether thats for looking bright and fun, or for emotional depth, is up to the individual looking at it.


I totally agree with that. The technicals should actually be transparent.
03/25/2006 10:47:51 PM · #16
Originally posted by queanbeez:

ok maybe i shouldnt have said technical...i child who is lets say under 13? probably doesnt understand what a good photo is and what isnt. Especially at 7, 8, 9? they are attracted to shiny, funny, or bright things. they dont look for skill.


Yes you are probably right. Kita does enjoy the abovementioned things...but she is also learning how to produce a photo that is not only enjoyable to her...but to others as well...! And when you think about it...when a child looks at a photo..they don't look at it as a photo that might be enjoyable to the photographer only...they look at it and say either 'yes, I like that' or 'no, I don't like that.' And so Kita is learning to incorporate both the viewer and the photographers feelings into it...but at the same time she is learning about skill as she often looks at images and asks how they did that. She reads tonnes of Photographic magazines and learns heaps from the technical areas of them.

So children in my eyes, are sponges. They absorb information so much quicker than adults. And by exposing them to photography in many different forms (if they are able to handle with maturity) at a young age then it helps them in their field so much quicker. Just look at Joey....look how quick he has picked it up...and he has his whole life in front of him.

Now look at some of us older ones....we didn't get into photography until quite late and haven't got as much time on our hands as the younger ones and so it takes us longer to get to the same level as them.
03/25/2006 10:50:05 PM · #17
On a totally different note, I never cease to be amazed by the fact that a large segment of north americans are offended by nudity and have no problems having their children exposed to to violence and murder on television and other media.

How does one explain that individuals can be aghast that a woman is nursing her child, and turn a blind eye to movies replete with killings, foul language and mayhem.

If one is offended by nudity, the option is to skip over it.... rather than comment on it.

Ray
03/25/2006 11:18:31 PM · #18
Originally posted by RayEthier:

On a totally different note, I never cease to be amazed by the fact that a large segment of north americans are offended by nudity and have no problems having their children exposed to to violence and murder on television and other media.

How does one explain that individuals can be aghast that a woman is nursing her child, and turn a blind eye to movies replete with killings, foul language and mayhem.

If one is offended by nudity, the option is to skip over it.... rather than comment on it.

Ray


Ditto.
03/25/2006 11:24:43 PM · #19
Are photos that win ribbons the only good photos?

Originally posted by queanbeez:

than why are all the ribbon winners photos technically good?

Originally posted by Konador:

Making a photo isn't all about showing people what skill you have. It's about making an image that people can enjoy. Whether thats for looking bright and fun, or for emotional depth, is up to the individual looking at it.

03/25/2006 11:31:08 PM · #20
Originally posted by queanbeez:

ok maybe i shouldnt have said technical...i child who is lets say under 13? probably doesnt understand what a good photo is and what isnt. Especially at 7, 8, 9? they are attracted to shiny, funny, or bright things. they dont look for skill.

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by queanbeez:

honestly i dont see how any "child" can determine if a photo is technically good. I've always wonder why they let them join so young.


I don't think age determines who can tell what is technically good or not.


Maybe you were that way or only know children who are that way, that's too bad. I know several children that age that know a good deal about art and why some is good and some is not. At any rate, they may not be able to articulate what is good using the same terms a knowledgable art critic would, but they certainly know what images appeal to them and it's not always shiny, funny and bright things. A lot of images that win ribbons win because they are eye-candy and not necessarily excellent works of art. In fact, many of the more artistic shots get scored quite low.
03/25/2006 11:33:43 PM · #21
uh no but i dont see mine up there..why? because i dont have the skills they do.

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Are photos that win ribbons the only good photos?

Originally posted by queanbeez:

than why are all the ribbon winners photos technically good?

Originally posted by Konador:

Making a photo isn't all about showing people what skill you have. It's about making an image that people can enjoy. Whether thats for looking bright and fun, or for emotional depth, is up to the individual looking at it.

03/25/2006 11:34:28 PM · #22
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Are photos that win ribbons the only good photos?

Originally posted by queanbeez:

than why are all the ribbon winners photos technically good?

No, of course not. But this isn't related to what queanbeez said. Sounds like twisted words to force a play on a ill-formed logical statement.
03/25/2006 11:36:30 PM · #23
Originally posted by queanbeez:

ok maybe i shouldnt have said technical...i child who is lets say under 13? probably doesnt understand what a good photo is and what isnt. Especially at 7, 8, 9? they are attracted to shiny, funny, or bright things. they dont look for skill.

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by queanbeez:

honestly i dont see how any "child" can determine if a photo is technically good. I've always wonder why they let them join so young.


I don't think age determines who can tell what is technically good or not.


This is not true,at least for my jessica(jessiroo). she is 10 and has a membership here. she spots technical flaws in photos sometimes before i do.She may or maynot be the "normal" child either but she knows what a good photo is or isnt. If she comes to a photo that she doesnt like we talk about why it is she doesnt like it. I dont allow her to vote low on a photo "just cause". she needs to explain to me why. but you know what...shes way more giving in her vote scores than i am. I of course am probably not the "normal" parent either. I am always here with her and i see everything she does.
03/25/2006 11:38:11 PM · #24
Damn. Well said RayEither.

I moved away from Canada because I couldn't stand the double-standard.

A lot of people there told me that as I was moving to Asia I would need to be damned careful because they are so much more strict about so many things.

And yet, here, Violence is viewed as a poor art form and nudity is viewed as quite natural.

I see kids under the age of 6 getting changed or peeing in drain grates by the side of the street of both genders with regularity. Probably in a 2 hour bike ride, I will see 2-3.

As far as older people being nude, well, there are hot springs here that are well-frequented and many of these are clothing optional (gender segregated).

What damage could it possibly do to ANYONE to see nudity?

none. (with possible exception to the CheeseMeister)

What damage could it do to a young person to see sex? Well, that's an issue of privacy and propriety and this is common to pretty much all cultures. Closed doors are closed doors.

To queanbeez. Please don't forget that there are plenty of people here who do a lot of voting that also wouldn't know a good/bad picture if it jumped out of the screen and bit their butt.

On the other hand, Children do have a slightly simpler view of things. I respect that and indeed use it when I prepare a picture for submitting, I sometimes let my students have a peek. If they like it, it tells me something. If they don't. It also tells me something.

There are plenty of pictures that have been taken in the history of "Great Pictures" that have indeed been lacking Techincally and probably would not do so well here. But let's not forget that DPC is DPC and is not actually the final word as to whether a picture is "great" or not.

Now here's an idea.

When you select the option to PM a minor member, perhaps there could be an option to PM the parent?

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 23:42:52.
03/25/2006 11:40:45 PM · #25
yeh i agree... to the original post, since people seem to have misunderstood, i dont see a nude photo on this site as porn or "bad" i see it as art. most children dont understand.

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Are photos that win ribbons the only good photos?

Originally posted by queanbeez:

than why are all the ribbon winners photos technically good?

No, of course not. But this isn't related to what queanbeez said. Sounds like twisted words to force a play on a ill-formed logical statement.

Pages:  
Current Server Time: 07/24/2021 09:41:41 AM

Please log in or register to post to the forums.


Home - Challenges - Community - League - Photos - Cameras - Lenses - Learn - Prints! - Help - Terms of Use - Privacy - Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2021 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Proudly hosted by Sargasso Networks. Current Server Time: 07/24/2021 09:41:41 AM EDT.