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03/22/2006 03:54:39 AM · #1 |
How do fashion photographer get that soft, smooth skin effect we can see in magazines :
is it done with light placements, flash, photoshop (which effects?)
Look at the first photo : a classical fashion photo.
Look at the second photo : the smooth skin effect is visible here.
Can fashion photographers answer my question?
Message edited by author 2006-03-22 04:19:54. |
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03/22/2006 04:06:32 AM · #2 |
I'm not a fashion photographer, but I can tell you it's post-processing for sure. Noise-reduction programs like neat image can be applied at extreme levels to selected areas and then faded. So can gaussian blur. So can various "glow" actions which are based on gaussian blur.
Take a figure you have shot, make a duplicate layer from background, make a circular selection of part of the models' skin area that includes highlights, and apply extreme gaussian blur to that area. Then fade the layer to mitigate the effect. That will show you what's happening at the most fundamental level, as it will show you side-by-side filtered and non-filtered areas.
I can't be of any help with this at a more sophisticated level because it's not an issue I deal with myself.
Robt.
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03/22/2006 04:17:36 AM · #3 |
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03/22/2006 04:23:28 AM · #4 |
1) OK, thanx pour the tips with gaussian blur
2) Impressive retouching! |
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03/22/2006 04:23:35 AM · #5 |
rikki that's a good example! :)
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03/22/2006 06:15:03 AM · #6 |
hi guys, I have an example of an image I postprocessed the way it sells better, but to tell you the truth I still do prefer the original.
Message edited by author 2006-03-22 06:15:29.
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03/22/2006 06:37:23 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Anastasia:
hi guys, I have an example of an image I postprocessed the way it sells better, but to tell you the truth I still do prefer the original.
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Hopefully with the original posters indulgence for this slightly off-topic twist.
When do you see the use of such an effect. To tell you the truth I would look at the original and never think to do anything of the sort. Some I like, some I don't; but that's not really what I'm looking at here. I have seen many before and after shots, and many times they suprise me. I would have never seen the dramatic that was lurking within the original.
Take the photo above as an example, was the processing the result of an original idea ...
... when setting up the shot?
... during the shoot?
... while sorting the images? ("this one would look good in plastic")
... from just playing around with photoshop?
... just from what the customer asked for?
Hopefully I made sense -- if I didn't I blame it on being past my bedtime. Night all.
David
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03/22/2006 09:25:58 AM · #8 |
I created a PS action form the steps to do this from the book "How to Photograph women."
It is on my website at Path to Skin Smoothing
You have to learn how to use Paths (or know how...it's easy) to "outline" the area you want to use it on.
Here is an example
That is my butt with the Skin smoothing and a little liquefy to get the curves like a woman. HAHAHAHAHA
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03/22/2006 10:13:08 AM · #9 |
Try the glamblur action on this page
//www.atncentral.com/download.htm
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03/22/2006 12:33:00 PM · #10 |
| That is a fabulous example that rikki posted. Truly amazing stuff he can do in photoshop. |
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03/22/2006 01:47:36 PM · #11 |
Rikki, great link! We should do more bragging about PP!
Maybe if more young girls saw this stuff, they wouldnt starve themsleves to look like photshop images! |
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03/22/2006 01:52:21 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
Rikki, great link! We should do more bragging about PP!
Maybe if more young girls saw this stuff, they wouldnt starve themsleves to look like photshop images! |
Yeah that is a Great link! I think you are right Rae-Ann! |
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03/22/2006 02:03:17 PM · #13 |
I'm all for photoshop and touching up a bit, but this to me is way too much. Might as well paint something. I'm not a purist at all, I touch up all my pictures a bit, but when you start changing so much, then (to me), the photo becomes something else and not a respresentation of the model, etc
but that's just me
Javier |
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03/22/2006 02:06:01 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
Rikki, great link! We should do more bragging about PP!
Maybe if more young girls saw this stuff, they wouldnt starve themsleves to look like photshop images! |
Yeah that is a Great link! I think you are right Rae-Ann! |
Yes, exactly. It's one thing to know that the pictures are all airbrushed, but to see it like that makes it really hit home. |
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03/22/2006 02:13:57 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by jsolsona:
I'm all for photoshop and touching up a bit, but this to me is way too much. Might as well paint something. I'm not a purist at all, I touch up all my pictures a bit, but when you start changing so much, then (to me), the photo becomes something else and not a respresentation of the model, etc
but that's just me
Javier |
The concept of tweaking an image to make a model look more "divine" then in reality is far older then photography. Bringing it into the world of photography is just a logical progression of that ancient skillset. |
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03/22/2006 02:30:48 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Nelzie:
The concept of tweaking an image to make a model look more "divine" then in reality is far older then photography. Bringing it into the world of photography is just a logical progression of that ancient skillset. |
For sure, I don't argue with that.. and like I said, I do it myself.. but (again, to me) there are a few limits and what magazines are doing right now is way beyond the "divine" look.. it's altering reality to a point beyond recognision.. sure, it's a nice piece of art, but those models exist more in the imagination of the guy/gal behind the computer than they do in real life.. |
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04/29/2006 08:09:35 PM · #17 |
| But that is the only way celebrities can look bigger than life. Touching of photos has been around forever... just that with digital, the tools has become more powerful and the workflow sped up... I shoot film, and I remember using water colour/dyes to manually touch up prints and labs would be able to touch up on the negative and slides, and some labs could do all the developing effects. Its Photoshop, analog style! |
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04/29/2006 08:59:42 PM · #18 |
I just took this on Thursday and is one of the first shots where I really retouched the skin and was very pleased with the results. I only wish I took it in time for the complementary colors but it wasn't advanced editing so it dosen't really matter anyway. I was basically going for the magazine airbrush look since this could be a valuable asset when I graduate from college next year. I will probably continue to use this on portraits I shoot I enjoyed it so much. Rikki's link was very inspiring when this thread first began. I didn't use any blur just dodge and burn and selective editing on the background. Its a ton of fun if executed properly.
Message edited by author 2006-04-29 21:02:07. |
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04/29/2006 10:06:03 PM · #19 |
Here is my example |
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