640x640 Restriction Poll Results

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/22/2006 10:02:33 AM · #1

what cracks me up is that this is a laptop.

anyway, the colors and brightness are amazing with this laptop. There are a number of pictures that look so much better.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

04/22/2006 02:10:10 AM · #2

When I first switched to my 21" screen at 1600x1200 everything on the web looked really small. I can't imagine how things look on your end. Is it difficult to click on the thumbnails? :P

Message edited by author 2006-04-22 02:10:30.

dleach

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/21/2006 09:33:28 PM · #3

The problem is that the LCD panel's native resolution is the 1920x640. When you bring it down it actually makes things fuzzy...

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

04/21/2006 09:18:50 PM · #4

Originally posted by dleach:

Interesting "problem". I just got a new laptop (Dell M70) with a 15.4 inch screen and a native resolution of 1920x1200. It has great color and such but the 640x640 images are... almost too small... gasp!

So you're saying you can't change the resolution?

dleach

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/21/2006 09:10:10 PM · #5

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

04/19/2006 08:58:33 PM · #6

Originally posted by bluenova:

If the change is made, would it be possible to get a refund on membership?

lol

Techo

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

04/19/2006 08:42:40 PM · #7

In any case, challenges aside. I would find a max res of >640 very welcome for portfolio images. Seems it auto down sizes any image I upload to 640.

Message edited by author 2006-04-19 20:43:19.

C_Steve_G

Apple iPhone 12

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5

04/15/2006 11:01:34 PM · #8

Originally posted by joebok:

Well, I just got done voting for ... Textures at the new size...

I have to say, I can't really see that the 720 size is really all that much better than 640 - does not make that much difference to me. Lousy shots still look lousy, great shots still look great.

I think it was a great experiment - my $0.02 is that I don't think it would be worth the effort to only go to 720.

...

I have to agree with this. At full screen (12xx x 10xx), I can see images in their entirety, but I see no real advantage to the larger images.

pacpinto

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

04/07/2006 11:33:51 AM · #9

Actually, having started to vote for this challenge, I can see a clear improvement in general image detail. Or maybe it's the challenge itself (lots of macros ). I don't suffer from having to scroll (1400x1050 screen) but can clearly see some difficulties for those who do have to scroll.
Maybe popping up a browser window for each photo would help? Not sure if it is even possible... just an idea.

joebok

Fujifilm X100F

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED

04/07/2006 11:27:21 AM · #10

Well, I just got done voting for a bunch of Textures at the new size. The ones full vertical made me scroll a bit to vote/comment. Slightly annoying, but no big deal.

I have to say, I can't really see that the 720 size is really all that much better than 640 - does not make that much difference to me. Lousy shots still look lousy, great shots still look great.

I think it was a great experiment - my $0.02 is that I don't think it would be worth the effort to only go to 720.

Even going to 800x800 would not impress me. What makes the most impact to me when I view photos is going full-screen: then all distractions disappear and you only see the image. Implementation of that is probably not practicle (yet)...

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

04/07/2006 11:12:25 AM · #11

and I've already gotten a comment that my 640 pixel wide image is too small! sure didn't take the voters long to adjust! hahaha

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

04/07/2006 08:16:33 AM · #12

Originally posted by KiwiPix:

Here is the exact reason that the 720pixel idea is unlikely to work.

Originally posted by a commenter in the Texture Challenge:
Sorry can't see the whole image on my screen to get a good evaluation. Maybe shoot a landscape so its easier to view

I decided to enter into the spirit of the experiment and submit my entry at full resolution but I didn't really expect to be marked down for it. To be fair, I'm not sure that I was and I certainly am not complaining about the comment or the commenter - they are right.

We needed to test it. It almost fits on my monitor but it looks like the idea doesn't work in practice. I've just looked through all the Texture entries ... can anyone honestly say that the quality is better and that one is better than another - I can't see any difference and there's entries in there of all shapes and sizes. That was the only argument for the change in the first place.

Brett

That was my comment. I am voting on a laptop whilst in India, and am having real trouble just getting to see the bigger 720px (vertical) images.

I didn't vote anyone down because of this, but wanted to register the difficulty.

KiwiShotz

Panasonic DMC-FZ20

Panasonic DMW-LTZ10 1.5x Teleconverter

04/07/2006 05:07:27 AM · #13

Here is the exact reason that the 720pixel idea is unlikely to work.

Originally posted by a commenter in the Texture Challenge:

Sorry can't see the whole image on my screen to get a good evaluation. Maybe shoot a landscape so its easier to view

I decided to enter into the spirit of the experiment and submit my entry at full resolution but I didn't really expect to be marked down for it. To be fair, I'm not sure that I was and I certainly am not complaining about the comment or the commenter - they are right.

We needed to test it. It almost fits on my monitor but it looks like the idea doesn't work in practice. I've just looked through all the Texture entries ... can anyone honestly say that the quality is better and that one is better than another - I can't see any difference and there's entries in there of all shapes and sizes. That was the only argument for the change in the first place.

Brett

Message edited by author 2006-04-07 08:00:57.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

04/07/2006 03:27:30 AM · #14

Originally posted by jimpearce:

This may have been addressed already, I have read through each post but didn't see it...
Would it not be possible to make it a user preference setting (much like the setting we have to show so many pictures in a row)? That way, I could choose the setting 640, 700, 800 or whatever.
Just an idea?

It has been suggested, but there are several problems with it; it would require either multiple uploads per submitter OR a resizing algoritm to be in place; and the members here do not trust that the quality of their image will be maintained if the site resizes it. Certainly, I tweak the USM on my images every time I make them smaller.

Also, some say it's not right that we'd not all be voting on the "same" image.

Robt.

howzit

04/07/2006 02:57:24 AM · #15

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

04/07/2006 01:43:33 AM · #16

Originally posted by TooCool:

I'm still confused though... How could there be any evidence of a hypothetical photo size change...

The current "Textures" challenge is allowing 720 pixels and 200Kb images.

R.

TooCool

04/07/2006 12:59:41 AM · #17

I'm still confused though... How could there be any evidence of a hypothetical photo size change...

TooCool

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/07/2006 12:59:01 AM · #18

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by BikeRacer:
Why do we have to worry about "being unfair" to portrait orientation with a change to 800x640?

Because the whole point of allowing more pixels is to allow greater resolution with which to express fine detail. By restricting the vertical dimension you are penalizing anyone who wants to shoot a detailed photo requiring a portrait orientation, say a soaring tree with sun-dappled leaves.

People shooting in landscape orientation will have an advantage by either having more pixels available or avoiding the necessity of scrolling to see their picture.

That too!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

04/07/2006 12:54:29 AM · #19

Originally posted by BikeRacer:

Why do we have to worry about "being unfair" to portrait orientation with a change to 800x640?

Because the whole point of allowing more pixels is to allow greater resolution with which to express fine detail. By restricting the vertical dimension you are penalizing anyone who wants to shoot a detailed photo requiring a portrait orientation, say a soaring tree with sun-dappled leaves.

People shooting in landscape orientation will have an advantage by either having more pixels available or avoiding the necessity of scrolling to see their picture.

TooCool

04/07/2006 12:29:48 AM · #20

How could there be any evidence of a hypothetical photo size change...

BikeRacer

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/06/2006 11:46:13 PM · #21

Why do we have to worry about "being unfair" to portrait orientation with a change to 800x640? Most of us (close to 100% is my guess) have landscape monitors. For people running 1024x768, a portrait shot at XXXx640 will take up most of the available vertical space, and a landscape shot of 800xXXX will take up most of the available horizontal space.

Boosting horizontal resolution feels more like resolving a horizontal deficit rather than creating a vertical one.

Is there any evidence that portrait shots wouldn't do well against landscape shots just because there are fewer pixels on the longer sides?

If this has already been asked or addressed, sorry. I tried to read the whole thread, but my eyes started glazing over... =]

graphicfunk

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/02/2006 12:05:04 AM · #22

All of the gathered data is not pleading for a change. perhaps a later date will shed more light. It matters little to me, it is just that I feel that about 30 to 40 percent of members are not up to speed.

crayon

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FH1

03/21/2006 04:45:54 AM · #23

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Message edited by author 2006-03-21 04:48:08.

bluenova

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

03/21/2006 04:40:23 AM · #24

If the change is made, would it be possible to get a refund on membership?

langdon