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03/16/2006 01:44:13 PM · #1
I have PS 6.0 Educational Version (not that it's any different) and I know little about it. I rarely touchup, but have a photo that desperately needs a light area on a black background removed.

I was planning on entering it into the 2-second challenge and am not sure if it'd be proper etiquette to post it here......but I'm sure that improvements can be made....I just can't, for the life of me, figure it out.

A book is on the way......doesn't help much until it arrives.

I've used Picture It! Express to easily blend the exact color around a spot and change the transluciency......maybe the terms are just different?

Thanks in advance for any advice/instruction!
03/16/2006 01:48:04 PM · #2
edit: foot in mouth, slap forehehead with reminder to read entire post before making suggestion

Hard to suggest something - especially something challenge-legal without seeing the pic. There may be several ways to accomplish it - maybe check the how to forum or search the web for PS resources.

Message edited by author 2006-03-16 13:51:33.
03/16/2006 01:56:18 PM · #3
Without seeing the image (Yes, you're right, not proper to show it here if you're considering entering it in a challenge) it sounds like maybe using the burning tool, or cloning tool could do it. BUT...you have to be careful of breaking the Major Elements rule, from the challenge rules. I would carefully go over the challenge rules, pay special attention to the section on Major Elements. Also, try a forum search, and there are many, many threads discussing the topic. Also, you can contact SC (go to Help on the menu bar at the top of home page, then Contact, then fill out the little form). They are very helpful, and they can specifically take a look at what you are wanting to do, and give you an opinion on whether or not it may be legal.
03/16/2006 02:10:13 PM · #4
Originally posted by taterbug:

I would carefully go over the challenge rules, pay special attention to the section on Major Elements. Also, try a forum search, and there are many, many threads discussing the topic.

That's just mean - why you you put her through that? ;-)

Just keep in mind a major element is whatever it is deemed to be at the time of the deeming. (demoning? demeaning?)
03/16/2006 02:13:38 PM · #5
Make a new layer (I call mine "retouch") and use the clone/stamp tool to cover the light spot with color/texture from the surrounding area. Check the option box for "Use All Layers" for the clone tool -- it will sample from the Background layer, but clone onto the new layer (make sure it's the active layer). This allows you to make the correction non-destructively -- the original data's still on the BG layer -- and you can then toggle the new layer view on and off to see the effect.

You can then save a copy as a TIFF file and "flatten" the layers into a single layer. Here you do any final touch-up or blending needed (Blur or Smudge tools are good; set to less than 100% opactity and repeat application as needed), and any resizing and sharpening, before saving as JPEG. I always keep the Photoshop file intact in case I want to go back and tweak it some more.

If you want opinions as to rules before the voting starts, make up a (small) version with the Before/After images side-by-side, and submit that via the Ticket system, with an explanation of what you did and what your concerns are. You should get one or more opinions within a day or two ...
03/16/2006 02:37:31 PM · #6
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

...That's just mean - why you you put her through that? ;-)


hehehe, hey, WE all had to go through all that! :-P

...besides, maybe she is bored and could use several days worth of reading!!!
:-)

Message edited by author 2006-03-16 14:38:39.
03/16/2006 02:46:58 PM · #7
Originally posted by taterbug:

Without seeing the image (Yes, you're right, not proper to show it here if you're considering entering it in a challenge) it sounds like maybe using the burning tool, or cloning tool could do it. BUT...you have to be careful of breaking the Major Elements rule, from the challenge rules. I would carefully go over the challenge rules, pay special attention to the section on Major Elements. Also, try a forum search, and there are many, many threads discussing the topic. Also, you can contact SC (go to Help on the menu bar at the top of home page, then Contact, then fill out the little form). They are very helpful, and they can specifically take a look at what you are wanting to do, and give you an opinion on whether or not it may be legal.


I did search the forums and tutorials first.......but only found 7.0 and above. Didn't think it applied to my version. I just needed a push in the right direction.

The object I want to remove is not even recognizable......a glare, maybe. Major Element? Definately not. I've read some post-editing steps others have taken on ribbon photos in Advanced Editing and this would be minor in comparison.

Great info...thanks!
03/16/2006 02:49:02 PM · #8
I use photoshop CS2, but I can probably still help. If you want to e-mail me a low res verion I could give you some advice. I won't have the time to vote or submit to any challenges for a couple of weeks, so I wouldn't see this as rude or in bad taste.

tristalisk
03/16/2006 02:52:00 PM · #9
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Make a new layer (I call mine "retouch") and use the clone/stamp tool to cover the light spot with color/texture from the surrounding area. Check the option box for "Use All Layers" for the clone tool -- it will sample from the Background layer, but clone onto the new layer (make sure it's the active layer). This allows you to make the correction non-destructively -- the original data's still on the BG layer -- and you can then toggle the new layer view on and off to see the effect.

You can then save a copy as a TIFF file and "flatten" the layers into a single layer. Here you do any final touch-up or blending needed (Blur or Smudge tools are good; set to less than 100% opactity and repeat application as needed), and any resizing and sharpening, before saving as JPEG. I always keep the Photoshop file intact in case I want to go back and tweak it some more.

If you want opinions as to rules before the voting starts, make up a (small) version with the Before/After images side-by-side, and submit that via the Ticket system, with an explanation of what you did and what your concerns are. You should get one or more opinions within a day or two ...


Perfect! Just what I needed. A little guidance...thanks for sharing!
03/16/2006 02:55:38 PM · #10
You're welcome -- that's pretty much my job around here : )

Photoshop versions 5-7 are pretty similar in the way they work, and most techniques should translate between them with little trouble. I still mostly used v 5.0 myself.

BTW: I had an S1 IS (no longer), and am considering the S3 when it comes out in couple of months. How are the shutter-lag and noise levels on the S2?

Message edited by author 2006-03-16 15:00:36.
03/16/2006 03:28:26 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:

You're welcome -- that's pretty much my job around here : )

Photoshop versions 5-7 are pretty similar in the way they work, and most techniques should translate between them with little trouble. I still mostly used v 5.0 myself.

BTW: I had an S1 IS (no longer), and am considering the S3 when it comes out in couple of months. How are the shutter-lag and noise levels on the S2?


Great! As far as shutter-lag, I don't notice any, unless my memory card is almost maxed out (it's not a high-speed one) or I've shot video. Of course I use a tripod often, too, so I'd be less apt to complain. I'm pleased with the noise levels.

The only downside I've found is that the S2 has no remote capabilities. You can use the remote shooting on the program only, but that's somewhat a pain.

Thanks again.........and I'm sure I'll be seeing your name around here again soon!

03/16/2006 08:05:48 PM · #12
Originally posted by tristalisk:

I use photoshop CS2, but I can probably still help. If you want to e-mail me a low res verion I could give you some advice. I won't have the time to vote or submit to any challenges for a couple of weeks, so I wouldn't see this as rude or in bad taste.

tristalisk


I'd love that. Let me have a go at it and enter, now that I have a better idea of how to do it. I'd love for you to see it after the challenge and tell me how you would have done it differently. Thanks everyone for responding to this thread.
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