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Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

07/30/2003 05:11:45 AM · #1

Everyone please note a right angle by defination is exactly 90 degrees, any one who posts a picture with an angle which I cannot measure to be precisely 90degrees will get a 1 :D

Koriyama

Nikon D200

07/30/2003 05:16:14 AM · #2

I know you're joking, Tarique. BUT, how would you vote a shot of something that was obviously 90 degrees but has been shot from a less obvious angle? Interpretation is allowed, surely?

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

07/30/2003 05:27:43 AM · #3

Originally posted by Koriyama:

Interpretation is allowed, surely?

[sullen]I wasn't allowed to play with interpretation I won't allow any one to play either[/sullen]

Well seriously speaking an interpretation should be allowed and presented along with the picture while voting - I know that some people frown upon "Titles" as shoe horning BUT folks thats what I call be presumtive and prude. I don't have the slightest clue who/what "Chuck Taylors" is but the second place picture really rocks!!

Koriyama

Nikon D200

07/30/2003 05:38:16 AM · #4

You've lost me entirely on this one, Tarique. . . .

07/30/2003 06:09:03 AM · #5

Originally posted by Koriyama:

You've lost me entirely on this one, Tarique. . . .

Hmm... OK here goes a longish explaination skip it if you find boring.

My message has several components -

1) First the gripe that most people want everyone to strictly adhere to what they think as "meets the challenge"

2) Previous week there was a discussion as to the effect that by using descriptive titles the photographer is trying to shoe horn his entry.

3) My reference to the second place winner in the current round is for the fact that as a non American / non Westerner I did not get the trend it represented BUT I still feel that it was a great photograph rather than dismissing it as "not meeting the challenge"

So what follows is that either more leeway should be allowed for interpretation OR much more detailed guidelines should be given for the challenge - the later in my opinion will spoil half the fun

rickhd13

Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DL Aspherical IF Hyperzoom for Canon

07/30/2003 06:16:48 AM · #6

[quote=tarique
So what follows is that either more leeway should be allowed for interpretation OR much more detailed guidelines should be given for the challenge - the later in my opinion will spoil half the fun[/quote]

I agree wholeheartedly...

However, if the challenge is "Right Angle" and your photo is of a circle, I don't think any title could sway my opinion of it

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

07/30/2003 06:44:52 AM · #7

Originally posted by rickhd13:

Originally posted by tarique:

So what follows is that either more leeway should be allowed for interpretation OR much more detailed guidelines should be given for the challenge - the later in my opinion will spoil half the fun

I agree wholeheartedly...

However, if the challenge is "Right Angle" and your photo is of a circle, I don't think any title could sway my opinion of it

But if the circle is standing up it's at right-angles to the ground, you just have to think 'outside the box' (whatever that means) ;)

tlalonde

Nikon D3200

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6G

07/30/2003 07:38:03 AM · #8

Originally posted by robsmith:

Originally posted by rickhd13:
Originally posted by tarique:

So what follows is that either more leeway should be allowed for interpretation OR much more detailed guidelines should be given for the challenge - the later in my opinion will spoil half the fun

I agree wholeheartedly...

However, if the challenge is "Right Angle" and your photo is of a circle, I don't think any title could sway my opinion of it

But if the circle is standing up it's at right-angles to the ground, you just have to think 'outside the box' (whatever that means) ;)

If you shoot a window frame from any other angle other than straight on then it will not appear 90 degrees. The rules state that right angles must produce the strength of the image. For me that means that there should be clear lines running parallel to the image's edges. This will be interesting.

Alpine99

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

07/30/2003 07:41:31 AM · #9

perhaps you'd taken the picture of the circle from just the 'right angle'?? As usual it depends on the skill of the photographer to take me along with their message..

bod

07/30/2003 07:44:14 AM · #10

Originally posted by conceptgraphics:

If you rotate a right angle through 45 degrees it will no longer be parallel to the image edges. Is it no longer a right angle?

Personally I think 300 straight on shots of window frames will be a tad boring :p

tlalonde

Nikon D3200

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6G

07/30/2003 07:49:28 AM · #11

I think it will be boring too. Didn't say I like the challenge - just pointing out something. If you want to see an effective use of window frames, check out Jan Saudek. His work is available on the net.

I think this challenge is meant to spur creativity.

robsmith

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG for Canon

07/30/2003 07:59:33 AM · #12

Are flower heads considered to be at right angles to the stalks?

Just thought I'd ask!

bod

07/30/2003 08:07:08 AM · #13

Originally posted by conceptgraphics:

If you want to see an effective use of window frames, check out Jan Saudek. His work is available on the net.

I'm lucky I can get at that stuff at work! You sure you're not thinking of the nude challenge here ; )

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

07/30/2003 08:30:37 AM · #14

//www.tariquesani.net/displayimage.php?pos=-20
Here is one taken by my 5 year old son - will this fit the challenge?

indigo997

Nikon D70

07/30/2003 11:28:14 AM · #15

I don't even think that anything in your shot has to have a right angle in reality as long as you shoot it so that it looks like a right angle in the shot (which is sort of the opposite of what has been said). My strict voting mind (haha) will be looking for shots with strong vertical/horizontal lines that meet.
I had to laugh when I read this week's topic. Drew & Lang really give us a lot more credit for deciphering these things than we probably deserve.

A Weaver

Sony DSLR-A100

07/30/2003 01:11:56 PM · #16

A triangle containing a right angle is called a right triangle. However, a triangle cannot contain more than one right angle, since the sum of the two right angles plus the third angle would exceed the 180* total possessed by a triangle.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

07/30/2003 01:15:57 PM · #17

Originally posted by tarique:

//www.tariquesani.net/displayimage.php?pos=-20
Here is one taken by my 5 year old son - will this fit the challenge?

Yes and no.

Yes there are right angles on the picture frame.

No, the spirals within the picture frame are more dominant than the right angles and draw the eye to them.

Another perspective of this same object that emphasizes the corners of the picture frame would work though.

eloise

Sony DSC-P7

07/30/2003 01:16:24 PM · #18

Originally posted by tarique:

//www.tariquesani.net/displayimage.php?pos=-20
Here is one taken by my 5 year old son - will this fit the challenge?

That looks to fit, to me, both because the main subject is rectangular and because the lights above it form a virtual right-angle of their own. Very nice.

autool

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

07/30/2003 01:27:13 PM · #19

Originally posted by eloise:

Originally posted by tarique:
//www.tariquesani.net/displayimage.php?pos=-20
Here is one taken by my 5 year old son - will this fit the challenge?

That looks to fit, to me, both because the main subject is rectangular and because the lights above it form a virtual right-angle of their own. Very nice.

I'd say it fits rather well, ggod job for 5.

Can I just enter this again, or is not within the literal interpretation?

I touched it up a bit to give more of an idea what I was after.

Message edited by author 2003-07-31 10:49:06.

eloise

Sony DSC-P7

07/30/2003 01:42:34 PM · #20

How on earth do you not see that fitting? Right angles are at the heart of the very composition, and plastered all over the whole shot. :->

autool

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

07/30/2003 02:46:10 PM · #21

Originally posted by eloise:

How on earth do you not see that fitting? Right angles are at the heart of the very composition, and plastered all over the whole shot. :->

You know how the literal people are. NOne of it is parallel with the frame for one thing. The other, it is square, that may be something different to some. All in jest! Don't get me wrong, I'm just fishing, or is that called troll...ing nowadays.
Damn I gotta have something better to do.

qachyk

Kodak CX4200

07/30/2003 03:43:13 PM · #22

Go take some pictures, that's something better to do, right?

Why the heck would a right angle need to be parallel to anything? If it forms a 90 degree angle, it doesn't matter what the orientation is. That's like saying that if you tilt a rectangle 10 degrees, it's no longer a rectangle.

csoka

Canon PowerShot A200

07/31/2003 08:45:39 AM · #23

I took some shoot from a pirite (FeS2). What are you thinking, this fit the callenge? :)

(there was an image, but I erased it. Sorry I was unthinking :( )

Message edited by author 2003-08-01 01:55:14.

07/31/2003 08:55:59 AM · #24

Originally posted by csoka:

I took some shoot from a pirite (FeS2). What are you thinking, this fit the callenge? :)

Yes for me it does...

autool