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 03/09/2006 03:40:05 PM · #1
Hello everyone,

I'm a beginner in photo and I actually have a FujiPix F700 digicam, nothing pro.

So I was thinking of buying a Reflex camera, but I don't know which one. Also I'm a student and everything lol so I don't have tons and tons of money to spend. So which one would you suggest? A friend told me about the Nikon F70 but I also heard that Nikon is leaving the Digicam Market so it's quite scary to buy one.

Also I was thinking of perhaps buying a Digital Reflex camera in second hand, but what do you think of that? Because since a camera is made of fragile components maybe it's not a good idea to buy it second hand I don't know ... What should I pay attention to so I don't get stolen ?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help :).

Best regards

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 15:47:23.
 03/09/2006 03:46:53 PM · #2
I use a canon 350D Digital Rebel XT. I am very happy with it. I got that because it was within my budget. How much is yours?
 03/09/2006 03:48:08 PM · #3
Well my budget is more in the 600 euros
 03/09/2006 03:48:58 PM · #4
Nikon is going nowhere they are locked in to the Digital market they are however stopping production of most of their film cameras.

The D70 is a great camera but again so are the canon's.

You cant go wrong with either.
 03/09/2006 03:49:16 PM · #5
f70 is a film camera (an f70 is roughly 1999 tech.)
so far Nikon is only leaving high end film markets

Nikon will not be leaving the digial market ..
03/09/2006 03:52:17 PM · #6
Leaving the digital market???

In this case, they would be leaving the camera market in about 10 years ;-)

Don't worry about that one!
 03/09/2006 03:53:40 PM · #7
for 600 euros i think you can buy EOS 350D or Nikon D50
both are cool cameras and you'll probably be thrilled
 03/09/2006 03:54:31 PM · #8
Oh ok, thanks for that info :).

Really the F70 is not digital? ..... oooops lol, sorry I meant the D70.

So what do you think about second hand cams? Is it to risky? I mean it's not like buying a second hand book or something like, even if it's second hand it's still big money :(.
 03/09/2006 03:55:38 PM · #9
I agree with gooc, go either way.

Do you have a photography buddy that has the lenses already? They willing to share? That might switch you over to one camp or the other. But seriously, I think if you go with either Nikon or Canon, you can't lose. I have tried some of Nikon's cameras the D70, and they're all very nice optically. I cannot say the same for the other brands because I haven't tried them. But for the two brands i mentioned, they're both good investments if you ask me.
 03/09/2006 03:57:49 PM · #10
Originally posted by gooc:
for 600 euros i think you can buy EOS 350D or Nikon D50
both are cool cameras and you'll probably be thrilled
Really ? New or second hand?

Also, sadly I don't know anyone who could share lenses :(.

Also, i heard about those Sony CCD Captors that were having troubles, do I risk something with the Nikon or Canon?

Do all the Reflex Digicam come without any lense? Do you know a good website with nice low price that would ship in Europe please?

Sorry if I ask to many questions lol, it's just that I don't want to loose my money lol.

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 16:16:26.
 03/09/2006 05:02:13 PM · #11
Also are those cameras suitable for a photograph like me :

Canon EOS 300D and 10D ?

Konica-Minolta Dynax 5D + Zoom 18-70mm F3.5-5.6(D) ==> 649.95 Eur

Nikon D50 black +AF-S DX 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED ==> 649.95 Eur

Pentax istDL black + Zoom PENTAX 18-55 mm F 3,5/5,6 DA + SD 512 Mb! ==> 617.95 Eur

Thanks again :), best regards

03/09/2006 05:06:34 PM · #12
All of those choices are great for your first dSLR. But like others will tell you with a dSLR you are buying a system so consider the lenses. Canon & Nikon have the most choices and it is easy to find nice glass used.

Good Luck
 03/09/2006 05:15:15 PM · #13
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
and it is easy to find nice glass used.


Ok thanks, though i didn't understand the end of your post sorry :)

Also do you know a good website that has interesting prices and ships to France?

Also, sorry if this is a stupid question but I was wondering, since the 18-55mm lenses seem to come in first with all the lower price packages, does this means that it's not a awesome lense? And that in the end the camera with this lense will just take pictures as good as a my compact digicam (Fuji Finepix F700 - Link) ?

Also, is it better to have a 18-55mm lense or a 18-70mm ? Sorry but I'm totally new to all the lense stuff and everything lol so I really don't know understand most of the infos I find :(.

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 17:22:19.
 03/09/2006 05:22:35 PM · #14
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
All of those choices are great for your first dSLR. But like others will tell you with a dSLR you are buying a system so consider the lenses. Canon & Nikon have the most choices and it is easy to find nice glass used.

Good Luck


Glass = Lens
 03/09/2006 05:38:20 PM · #15
Oh ok, sorry lol :) Thanks.
 03/23/2006 09:19:37 AM · #16
The best place to get good lenses is still eBay :-)
 03/23/2006 10:29:00 AM · #17
My recommendation is to find a Canon 300D with two lenses and start from there. You can upgrade lenses as you get money, then eventually upgrade cameras when you have more money.

I know a 300D isn't top of the line, but your budget right now doesn't allow top of the line anything.
 03/23/2006 10:34:34 AM · #18
Originally posted by Smasher:
Also, i heard about those Sony CCD Captors that were having troubles, do I risk something with the Nikon or Canon?


The Sony Sensors that were causing problems were the samller sensors in the P&S cameras, not the ones they manufacture for many of the dSLRs. Canon, for example, use the Sony sensor, as do KM, which Sony has now bought.

R.
 03/23/2006 10:39:02 AM · #19
Originally posted by Smasher:
Also are those cameras suitable for a photograph like me :

Canon EOS 300D and 10D ?

Konica-Minolta Dynax 5D + Zoom 18-70mm F3.5-5.6(D) ==> 649.95 Eur

Nikon D50 black +AF-S DX 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED ==> 649.95 Eur

Pentax istDL black + Zoom PENTAX 18-55 mm F 3,5/5,6 DA + SD 512 Mb! ==> 617.95 Eur

Thanks again :), best regards


Also, if you do go with A canon if you get the 300D you can use the EFS lens the 10D does not support them, just a thought...
 03/23/2006 05:15:16 PM · #20
The 18-55mm lenses are inexpensive but have OK quality. The Nikon seems to be slightly better, but not enough to make much difference. The Nikon 18-70mm lens, while not a "professional" or top of the line lens, is far better than either the Nikon or Canon 18-55mm lens.
 03/24/2006 12:11:50 PM · #21
Of the kit lenses, the Nikon 18-70 is generally spoken of as the best.

The 18-55 lenses tend to be quite poor and cheap in most people's view, but can still provide plenty of good images.

I know of plenty of photographers who use the lens without complaint, indeed the group is not so much smaller of people who think the 18-55 cheapies are plenty capable for certain circumstances.

I like them because they provide a semi-wide lens with decent quality at a very low price.

As I am quite satisfied with their quality at the price, my personal 2nd for the list would be the Konica Minolta 18-70. It's probably closer to the Canon and Nikon Kit lenses, but it's got a longer range, probably similar build quality and optics, but also has circular aperture blades. While this probably has a very minimal effect on most shots you are likely to take with such a short, slow lens, it does indicate to me that at the very least, they put a little bit more effort and thought into making that lens. That's a very good indication to me. 2 points for that lens over the other brand kit lenses.

Message edited by author 2006-03-24 12:16:27.
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